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Gyno and the uncomfortable

KennyHo

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Going to start a new cycle for the first time in 10 years. The last cycle I did was in my Army days. I’ve literally watched all of the PE fitness channels videos. I was not well educated the first three times around in the 20teens. I was never made aware of the effect high estrogen can cause. It was a “Hey you need to do this and Tara yada”. And of course I followed suit. Dress right dress ya know…. Stupid on my part yes, I acknowledge that. Now bring in my 30s I’ve been in the gym hard for years. Looking to do a test Cyp cycle at 400mg 1-12. Not moving any other compound other then proviron for bedroom excitement. I have the PCT in hand as well as the cycle. PCT will be ;
1. Clomid 1-4 50mg 5-6 25mg
2. Nolva 1-4 40mg 5-6 20mg
3. Gw501516 20mg
4. Mk2866 1-4 ONLY 25mg
5. Aromasin 1-4 12.5mg every over day

The concerns I have are when to look out for high E. You hear all these stories about how this person got gyno and this person didn’t ect…. I have blood work as a baseline and it will be done again at week 8 and week 12 then again at week 6 of my PCT. I just feel I’d rather get checked more then less. I understand the early signs, my main question is how to mitigate it the best I can. I see many different views on taking a AI EOD on cycle. I have on hand arimidex, aromasin, and just in case I need it I also got l letrozole.

I just would like to have an open discussion about what you’ve done to mitigate, or combat high E in the past. Also maybe what didn’t work for you, a lesson you learned, or an experience. Maybe some of you acquired high anxiety from to much AI? Then there the people who say to take Nolva sometimes….

I greatly appreciate any information y’all wanna share. I have no shame in admitting I am a newb, I’m listening, and I take good advice to heart. Thanks to anyone willing to explain more or chat about this.
 
bloodwork is a good tool here

also you need to use an AI on cycle to control estrogen

i suggest aromasin
 
I appreciate it. I have that on hand.

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Is it better to get bloods done every 2-3 weeks then?
 
Everyone is different with how estrogen prone they may or may not be... Im extremely estrogen prone, where i need an ai on basically anything over 200 mg of test where a guy like rickrock, can run 750 mg of test and need no estrogen control whatsoever... Generally bloodwork needs to be ran pre, mid and post cycle but when trying to get things dialed in, you can run it more often, just understand that it can be different based on compounds, doses, lengths etc... one thing you will learn here is that this is ALL trial and error... thats just how this goes...
 
Everyone is different with how estrogen prone they may or may not be... Im extremely estrogen prone, where i need an ai on basically anything over 200 mg of test where a guy like rickrock, can run 750 mg of test and need no estrogen control whatsoever... Generally bloodwork needs to be ran pre, mid and post cycle but when trying to get things dialed in, you can run it more often, just understand that it can be different based on compounds, doses, lengths etc... one thing you will learn here is that this is ALL trial and error... thats just how this goes...


Is 400 EW a good area to start? Or should it be 200 ever week just to dibble and dabble? Can also add more ehh? Never less then you already pinned…
 
Is 400 EW a good area to start? Or should it be 200 ever week just to dibble and dabble? Can also add more ehh? Never less then you already pinned…

i would go with 300-350 mg to start with myself... theres no need to do any more than that
 
i would go with 300-350 mg to start with myself... theres no need to do any more than that

Had no idea I was talking to you. Thanks so much for all your information, and how far you go to explain all that you do. I appreciate every ounce of it. That’s a great plan to start at 300. Thanks again bro!
 
Going to start a new cycle for the first time in 10 years. The last cycle I did was in my Army days. I’ve literally watched all of the PE fitness channels videos. I was not well educated the first three times around in the 20teens. I was never made aware of the effect high estrogen can cause. It was a “Hey you need to do this and Tara yada”. And of course I followed suit. Dress right dress ya know…. Stupid on my part yes, I acknowledge that. Now bring in my 30s I’ve been in the gym hard for years. Looking to do a test Cyp cycle at 400mg 1-12. Not moving any other compound other then proviron for bedroom excitement. I have the PCT in hand as well as the cycle. PCT will be ;
1. Clomid 1-4 50mg 5-6 25mg
2. Nolva 1-4 40mg 5-6 20mg
3. Gw501516 20mg
4. Mk2866 1-4 ONLY 25mg
5. Aromasin 1-4 12.5mg every over day

The concerns I have are when to look out for high E. You hear all these stories about how this person got gyno and this person didn’t ect…. I have blood work as a baseline and it will be done again at week 8 and week 12 then again at week 6 of my PCT. I just feel I’d rather get checked more then less. I understand the early signs, my main question is how to mitigate it the best I can. I see many different views on taking a AI EOD on cycle. I have on hand arimidex, aromasin, and just in case I need it I also got l letrozole.

I just would like to have an open discussion about what you’ve done to mitigate, or combat high E in the past. Also maybe what didn’t work for you, a lesson you learned, or an experience. Maybe some of you acquired high anxiety from to much AI? Then there the people who say to take Nolva sometimes….

I greatly appreciate any information y’all wanna share. I have no shame in admitting I am a newb, I’m listening, and I take good advice to heart. Thanks to anyone willing to explain more or chat about this.

I would go with 500mgs test cyp if you do it

500mgs testosterone cypionate/week
10mgs aromasin ED
25mgs proviron ED
7caps n2guard ED (organ liver support)

For PCT
you dont need aromasin after week 2 it will crash Estrogen too much imo
and ostarine mk2866 in PCT should be 12.5mgs
I wouldn't run clomid 4 weeks at 50mgs, 2 weeks 50mgs 4 weeks 25mgs is better
and i suggest a test booster in pct like n2generate

since you on here and you watch Dylans videos you need to post a LOG so we can help you more

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/
top left, you see: +POST NEW THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My testosterone cypionate cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/new-cycle!-84662.html
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/summer-bulking-cycle-85543.html
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/lefr34k-s-training-log-85141.html
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/pigsy-s-training-log-83248.html
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/echos-hgh-log-cycle-85429.html
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/my-cycle-log-85538.html
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/dozers-journey-stage-cycle-84184.html
 
bros why do 300mgs thats like sports TRT better go with 500mgs test cyp and LOG your cycle for us
 
500mgs test cyp 100% and your osta use too much 12.5mgs enough
LOG this for the community
 
gyno is potential all the time
500mgs test cyp 20mgs aromasin n2guard
and Log journal it for us
 
25mgs aromasin if you scared of gyno with 500mgs test
 
if you use light nolvadex like 10mgs ed with aromasin no gyno issues
and pct ostarine drop to 12.5mgs
and post up a LOG
 
LOG APPROVED - PLEASE POST A LOG

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Going to start a new cycle for the first time in 10 years. The last cycle I did was in my Army days. I’ve literally watched all of the PE fitness channels videos. I was not well educated the first three times around in the 20teens. I was never made aware of the effect high estrogen can cause. It was a “Hey you need to do this and Tara yada”. And of course I followed suit. Dress right dress ya know…. Stupid on my part yes, I acknowledge that. Now bring in my 30s I’ve been in the gym hard for years. Looking to do a test Cyp cycle at 400mg 1-12. Not moving any other compound other then proviron for bedroom excitement. I have the PCT in hand as well as the cycle. PCT will be ;
1. Clomid 1-4 50mg 5-6 25mg
2. Nolva 1-4 40mg 5-6 20mg
3. Gw501516 20mg
4. Mk2866 1-4 ONLY 25mg
5. Aromasin 1-4 12.5mg every over day

The concerns I have are when to look out for high E. You hear all these stories about how this person got gyno and this person didn’t ect…. I have blood work as a baseline and it will be done again at week 8 and week 12 then again at week 6 of my PCT. I just feel I’d rather get checked more then less. I understand the early signs, my main question is how to mitigate it the best I can. I see many different views on taking a AI EOD on cycle. I have on hand arimidex, aromasin, and just in case I need it I also got l letrozole.

I just would like to have an open discussion about what you’ve done to mitigate, or combat high E in the past. Also maybe what didn’t work for you, a lesson you learned, or an experience. Maybe some of you acquired high anxiety from to much AI? Then there the people who say to take Nolva sometimes….

I greatly appreciate any information y’all wanna share. I have no shame in admitting I am a newb, I’m listening, and I take good advice to heart. Thanks to anyone willing to explain more or chat about this.

Covered in multiple threads and articles. Have a read first
 
I would go with 500mgs test cyp if you do it

500mgs testosterone cypionate/week
10mgs aromasin ED
25mgs proviron ED
7caps n2guard ED (organ liver support)

For PCT
you dont need aromasin after week 2 it will crash Estrogen too much imo
and ostarine mk2866 in PCT should be 12.5mgs
I wouldn't run clomid 4 weeks at 50mgs, 2 weeks 50mgs 4 weeks 25mgs is better
and i suggest a test booster in pct like n2generate

since you on here and you watch Dylans videos you need to post a LOG so we can help you more

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/
top left, you see: +POST NEW THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My testosterone cypionate cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/new-cycle!-84662.html
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/summer-bulking-cycle-85543.html
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/lefr34k-s-training-log-85141.html
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/pigsy-s-training-log-83248.html
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/echos-hgh-log-cycle-85429.html
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/my-cycle-log-85538.html
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/dozers-journey-stage-cycle-84184.html

That's odd you recommend the opposite of what Dylan does. I took that PCT protocol directly from his archives....
 
gyno is potential all the time
500mgs test cyp 20mgs aromasin n2guard
and Log journal it for us

Sorry but what is a log? I will need some direction on what to do there. I took that PCT protocol directly from Dylan's archives. I have Tudca, NAC, and 5000% B6 on hand for liver protection. Will that not suffice?

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LOG APPROVED - PLEASE POST A LOG

This thread/post was reviewed by our Medical Review board.

This thread/post/message was also fact checked by Steven Darwin, MD and our medical review board.

Full editorial process was followed, and please read our medical disclaimer, check our editorial process.

I do not understand? My apologies.
 
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