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NY REBEL
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Neri I've come learn from some these guys, that if you know what your doing, your can run it any way you want. With minimal exceptions of course. No different then guys saying run higher test with tren, and the other half saying run low test..
My advice is try out what you want, you will know if it works for you.
My advice is try out what you want, you will know if it works for you.
You will have to just run it for yourself I hope that this is not your first few cycles but just like NY said if your confident in running it go for it and you an always do it different your next cycle and mostly what I have found is that your body is going to act differently than other people's so this might be your cycle might not
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when I first ran deca I ran the test higher because that is what all the parrot forums told me to do.
however we all know that is bullshit bro science.
and the reason for deca dick isn't because of progesterone, it is because it is a DDA which overtakes DHT in the body. so an easy way to prevent it would be to stack in proviron or masteron in the cycle. as simple as that. keep in mind testosterone only coverts 10% into DHT, so that is where the 'run test higher than deca' theory is derived from. but as you can see 10% isn't very much so you would probably have to run 3-4X more test than deca to convert enough DHT to make a difference. so anyone who says you must do deca 2:1 is wrong, its more like 3-4 to 1 and it would be more logical to run a DHT derivative instead.
however we all know that is bullshit bro science.
and the reason for deca dick isn't because of progesterone, it is because it is a DDA which overtakes DHT in the body. so an easy way to prevent it would be to stack in proviron or masteron in the cycle. as simple as that. keep in mind testosterone only coverts 10% into DHT, so that is where the 'run test higher than deca' theory is derived from. but as you can see 10% isn't very much so you would probably have to run 3-4X more test than deca to convert enough DHT to make a difference. so anyone who says you must do deca 2:1 is wrong, its more like 3-4 to 1 and it would be more logical to run a DHT derivative instead.
vladithor24
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I've never done it but a lot of the research I've done all the old school body builders used to run deca/ dbol solo without test or deca/test with deca higher than test
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Well. If you dint want people to "give u that bullshit" you clearly have a better method and more experience.
Have you ran either of these compounds? Why would u want to do this? If youbare new to them and just wanted to save money or do less injecting i dont reccomend you doing this.
Have you ran either of these compounds? Why would u want to do this? If youbare new to them and just wanted to save money or do less injecting i dont reccomend you doing this.
vladithor24
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I've done test/dbol test/deca next cycle will be all three together and always ran test as I would if I ran test solo so idk I've read both ways but I'm not a believer in the fact that test has to be ran way higher to offset deca too many in past have run low test with deca with no problems but I believe because cycles were run at shorter periods back then than people run today
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vladithor24
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Oh didn't say but test was at 500 deca 300
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correct because in those times they did not have access to AI's so some guys who were dumb enough to stack test with deca ended up with bitch tits and the ones who didn't were lucky to not be prone to estrogenic sides.
gosh we live in a gifted era today, anyone who uses steroids today and still ends up fucking themselves up with all the compounds we have easy access to is a fool
With that bullshit I meant parroting stuff they heard somewhere but have no science, evidence to back it up. I have run a number of cycles, only deca once as I prefer NPP. Pinning isnt an issue and I hombrew so neither is cost.
Cool. Id advise you to do it gradualy. Drop your test kinda like you do your calories. Just cause everyone is way different man.
I like this way myself with the tren ace I ran but I do not like to do it with deca. It just effects me differently. I dont have libido issues on tren.
That being said I did it because my body is already being shut down by the tren as it is. Adding the excess test is just pointless.
This could perfectly work. NPP as a very safe compound, and deca, well, if you follow @steve's advice, and use some proviron or masteron, you should be perfectly fine. Good luck with your cycle, and keep us posted on the progress!
