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boss302123
New Member
I hear that heating gear can help reduce pip. If this is true what is the best way to heat it?
whiteboystomp
Buff Brother
Hot tap water in shallow dish...set vial down in it,but not up to the cap. Do not submerse it. Take my morning shower.get out-shake the vial nicely-pin-and done
Works for me
Works for me
"For_My_Rats"
New member
I don't think it reduces so much PIP as it makes the oil thinner which passes though the smaller gauge needles easier. But using a heating pad afterwords on the injection site some say helps reduce swelling and PIP.
31yogymrat
New member
Just stretch tons and use the muscle as much as you can bear. Heat pad works too and a good rub right after pinning.
the_waco_kid
Buff Brother
I run the barrel under hot water for about 60 seconds before injecting.
Warrior Saint
New member
This works great, it felt like the injection went smoother, maybe it was just me.
When I had high concentration Prop, I would vent the bottle and heat in a pan with water.
fortitude18
Banned
With Prop and Suspension and Primo I put in a glass of hot water for 10 min and let it cool down to room temp and inject after a hot shower and or workout and it helps drastically with pip as well as a 25 gage needle but I have to admit I feel like a puss when prepping like it really that serious.....God forbid I am sore and jacked at the same time....Ha
the_waco_kid
Buff Brother
Not sure if heating it helps reduce pip or not, but it definitely helps it thin out so it pushes through a 25g pin....this is why I do it
Agreed. I find that having my gf blow my barrel works great.
Further to post pin massage, I only pin glutes so I make sure that I include the pin area when foam rolling during my gym warm ups. I think it helps relax the muscle around the oil and maybe (not sure) helps to spread it into a wider area. Seems to work though.
Further to post pin massage, I only pin glutes so I make sure that I include the pin area when foam rolling during my gym warm ups. I think it helps relax the muscle around the oil and maybe (not sure) helps to spread it into a wider area. Seems to work though.
mr.buffman
New member
It helps me pushing 2.5 to 3cc per pin. Put in a clean stainless steel pot and place the vials inside the pot and let them heat up like that. I wouldn't do water bacterial infection could happen
snakeman
New member
I breed reptiles and have several under tank heating pads laying around. I pull up in pin, place pin on heating pad with towel over it to hold heat, take shower and pin when I get out. I think the oil being thinner makes injection smoother and I have a steadier hand when im not having to force oil so much, while im sure relates to less PIP.
I use water heat to thin oil.
I draw oils recap place upright under water with water hitting barrel while I get my shot 25gauge needle, change out needle and inject.
Brad.
I draw oils recap place upright under water with water hitting barrel while I get my shot 25gauge needle, change out needle and inject.
Brad.
boss302123
New Member
Lol, exploding gear. "I don't know what happened, I put it in with last night dinner and now there's test all over my mashed potatoes."
whiteboystomp
Buff Brother
whiteboystomp
Buff Brother
^^^^^^ hmmmm ... reading shit like that makes me feel kinda stupid sometimes. lol... like---why the fuck didnt i think of that. thanks for your input bro ...
bulldog333
New member
I use a hairdryer myself...theres no risk of water contamination and you don't have to worry about your vials heating or cooling to quickly and exploding...the heating of gear is really only good for making the oils more viscous and easier to draw and inject...like steve said there are some muscles that don't like to be pinned...my quads get sore every time I inject no matter what, my glutes on the the other hand can take 2cc's and Id never know the difference if I hadn't pinned...
boss302123
New Member
I didn't want to be the one to say it but I was thinking the same thing.smh
No No, dont think like that, things like this is why were all here, to learn and help each other. I would have never thought of it if I didnt see one in someones office. It didnt even click till I was thinking there has to be a easier way than hot water like a hot plate that has a really low temp setting and the drink warmer popped into my head and its almost perfect for this. Just be careful as some are usb powered and ment to be powered by computer. Look for the one that is standard 110v so you can plug it into the wall. glad to help
this is a very easy method and it works well... good advice bro
Will deff make the oil thinner and shot go more smooth.
I'll have to try that next time I have a chance.
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boss302123
New Member
This is all great info and I'm going to try it on my next run
Let me clarify, the 1 ml vial is actually filled with a little more than 1 ml which I assume is due to the thickness of the oil. When the vial is turned upside down to load the pin, there is oil that collects on the side and bottom. That amount tends to be .15 -.20ml; this has been true for the last 25 1ml Pfizer vials. All the warming does is make the oil thinner so it does not collect on the sides. I did not believe this either until I contacted the pharmacy complaining because I was getting less than 1ml from my first vial. They said the difference was on the sides and to warm the vial so the oil will flow better and it worked plus I found there was a little extra.
Haha! Little pip never hurt anyone. I hate all of the prep in warming it up though..it's not that long,but I'm impatient.just hold a hot cloth and massage the oils in the area after injection. its mainly that warm gear disperses through the tissues better. heat that shit up a little, massage with hot cloth and don't be a pussy with a little pip
boss302123
New Member
I was never afraid of a little pip but if there's something or things I can do to lessen it or prevent it, I'm all about it. But I'm the same way sometimes I just don't want to wait.
