HELP: Lymphocytes low

[willipede]

Looking for some guidance, ive just had a health check with my doctor.

2 concerns

First and most important is that my lymphocyte count has been trending down and is now

Lymphocytes: 1 x 10⁹/L,
Normal range Lymphocytes: 1.5-4.0 x 10⁹/L

Note: this appears to lowering regardless if i was on cycle or not, in saying that most times ive had a blood test im either sick or on cycle. Retesting in 4 weeks

2nd concern which is managable
high total cholesterol
Low HDL
High LDL

 

[Mobster]

Start with the why? As in what is it about you that makes your count low (the other, as you say, is fixable easily)?

I would, of course (and as you infer), get a test done when well

 

[willipede]

Start with the why? As in what is it about you that makes your count low (the other, as you say, is fixable easily)?

As for the why with the lymphocytes i would love to know why. I have a feeling there is some immune issues, compounding that with this cycle as from what ive read AAS will lower lymphocytes, couldnt find which ones were the safest compounds in that regard.

Running 350 test, 200 npp, 450 primo
Im considering dropping npp and primo and lowering the test to 150 whist I figure out whats going on. Other than the test results i am feeling healthier than i have for a long time and i always feel alot healthier on cycle

For the cholesterol I wouldn't say easily but i would say managable with some extra thought and time put into my diet

Researching some good sources of omega-3s that i can tolerate as im allergic to seafood so that is a start

Thanks for the reply @Mobster

 

[RoidRage69]

How old are you?

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Looking for some guidance, ive just had a health check with my doctor.

2 concerns

First and most important is that my lymphocyte count has been trending down and is now

Lymphocytes: 1 x 10⁹/L,
Normal range Lymphocytes: 1.5-4.0 x 10⁹/L

Note: this appears to lowering regardless if i was on cycle or not, in saying that most times ive had a blood test im either sick or on cycle. Retesting in 4 weeks

2nd concern which is managable
high total cholesterol
Low HDL
High LDL

As for the why with the lymphocytes i would love to know why. I have a feeling there is some immune issues, compounding that with this cycle as from what ive read AAS will lower lymphocytes, couldnt find which ones were the safest compounds in that regard.

Running 350 test, 200 npp, 450 primo
Im considering dropping npp and primo and lowering the test to 150 whist I figure out whats going on. Other than the test results i am feeling healthier than i have for a long time and i always feel alot healthier on cycle

For the cholesterol I wouldn't say easily but i would say managable with some extra thought and time put into my diet

Researching some good sources of omega-3s that i can tolerate as im allergic to seafood so that is a start

Thanks for the reply @Mobster

@willipede your case is interesting, and I've been following your log for a while.

I think a point of note it this, you seem to be taking in VERY high amounts of carbs 400 or so in April update
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-testosterone-npp-cycle-log.98728/post-1510432
how about your current diet updates and training, what do they look like? throw them up in the log, I see recent ones but need to see more.

Also on the lymphocytes, its impossible to tell you why without FULL blood work.
Can you share full blood work? with ranges, so we can see full bloods to understand
just lymphocytes up or down arent going to tell us much without seeing the whole blood work, RBC/WBC etc

To truly give you advice, we need to see more details bro including log updates.

 

[Mobster]

As for the why with the lymphocytes i would love to know why. I have a feeling there is some immune issues, compounding that with this cycle as from what ive read AAS will lower lymphocytes, couldnt find which ones were the safest compounds in that regard.

Running 350 test, 200 npp, 450 primo
Im considering dropping npp and primo and lowering the test to 150 whist I figure out whats going on. Other than the test results i am feeling healthier than i have for a long time and i always feel alot healthier on cycle

For the cholesterol I wouldn't say easily but i would say managable with some extra thought and time put into my diet

Researching some good sources of omega-3s that i can tolerate as im allergic to seafood so that is a start

Thanks for the reply @Mobster

Absolutely a possibility. I wanna know if there's an underlying, indentified or not, medical issue. It's be great if it was just cos you was ill or on cycle cos those are fixable

 

[stevesmi]

there are 2 situations where this number can come in low IMO.

1. during a prolong fast as your WBC are recycling
2. during a sickness when your immune system is under attack

if it happens outside of that then you have more serious issues going on and need to see a specialist once you are fully off cycle

 

[zedhed]

I wouldn't worry too much about this
it could be that the steroids are causing this number

 

[caligirl85]

taking foreign substances like steroids can confuse your body
you could have an allergic reaction as well

 

[Shrine]

I'm pretty sure if you end up allergic to something that number will drop as well
it could be something temporary

 

[Zyglamail]

curious to hear what a specialist tells you
obviously we hope that nothing is wrong

 

[Arabian]

my advice is don't put it under the rug
and don't let things linger too long and listen to your body and blood work

 

[StevenDarwinMD]

LOG APPROVED: PLEASE UPDATE YOUR LOG

 

[BookerTNY]

sorry to hear that your little concerned about this
overall though your blood work isn't bad

 

[sambee38]

you might be going through an allergic reaction or a sickness
even something like the common cold can cause that 2 come down

 

[Austin316]

I'm praying that everything is okay with you
but you've got to get your Bloods done

 

[Quadsweep]

please post up what your doctor ends up telling you
it's important you get additional testing

 

[BodyMonster34]

bro my Tanker doctor send that blood work can be off on steroids
he says mine looks horrible like I'm dying lol

 

[JasonPriest]

we love you buddy
i'm sure everything is fine. but keep us updated please this can happen to anybody

 

[willipede]

there are 2 situations where this number can come in low IMO.

1. during a prolong fast as your WBC are recycling
2. during a sickness when your immune system is under attack

if it happens outside of that then you have more serious issues going on and need to see a specialist once you are fully off cycle

@stevesmi Good points. How long would you consider to be a prolonged fast??