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What is Gynecomastia?

Let’s start with what gynecomastia is. This is the enlargement of the male breast tissue, which occurs when there is an imbalance between estrogen action and androgen action at the breast tissue level. Males have small amounts of estrogen in their bodies – that’s normal. When you take steroids or synthetic HGH supplements excel estrogen can be produced through the amortization.

The problem is that when the body develops large amounts of estrogen, undesirable side effects can occur. One of those side effects is gynecomastia or the enlargement of the male breasts. Others include female pattern fat distribution and water retention. Gynecomastia occurs because you have higher concentrations of estrogen relative to your testosterone levels.

Symptoms of Gynecomastia

Symptoms of gynecomastia include swelling and tenderness of breast tissue and the nipples. Your nipples can also become itchy. Should you have any of these symptoms you need to see your doctor as soon as possible to begin treatment, because once breast tissue begins to form it’s permanent.

Just because you use steroids or synthetic HGH injections doesn’t mean you will find yourself dealing with estrogen issues. There’s no way of knowing how your body will react. Some take only small doses of steroids and instantly develop breast enlargement. Some have only one cycle while others have undergone a number of cycles before the breast enlargement occurs. In other cases, men take high steroid doses and many cycles without ever experiencing gynecomastia symptoms. There is no way to know whether you will develop the symptoms or not.

Preventing Estrogen Formation Will Prevent Gynecomastia

If you prevent estrogen formation you can prevent gynecomastia. Stop the formation of estrogen either by using an aromatase inhibitor or by blocking estrogen, so it can’t bind to your body’s estrogen receptors. It’s important that you receive prescription medications from your doctor to achieve either one of these, because the non-prescription anti-estrogens on the market cannot be relied on.

Taking Anti-Estrogens With Steroids

If you take steroids then take anti-estrogens to prevent gynecomastia. Nolvadex (tamoxifen citrate), Proviron (mesterolone) and Arimidex (anastrozole) work as anti-estrogens.

However, most bodybuilders prefer to block estrogen from forming, because it will prevent gynecomastia and decrease water retention, The reduction in water retention means a much harder looking body. Nolvadex is an anti-estrogen, but it also stops estrogen from being able to bind to the estrogen receptors in your body.

If you take steroids you should always keep an anti-estrogen on hand. Even when you take an aromatase inhibitor like Arimidex or Proviron, make sure you have Nolvadex on hand, just in case you’ve been prescribed too low of a dose and gynecomastia symptom begin to appear.

Dosage for Aromatase Inhibitors

Arimidex typically starts as low as 0.25 mg a day and goes up to 1.0 mg a day, with the average dosage being 0.5 mg a day.

Proviron is generally 50 mg a day. You take a tablet in the morning and in the evening.

Don’t Stop Steroids Mid Cycle

If you start to have symptoms of gynecomastia and you don’t have anti-estrogens, stopping your steroids mid cycle won’t help. Stopping can actually make it worse. Even if you stop there’s going to be remaining estrogen in your body, which will cause the breast tissue to keep building. Your steroid injections will stay in your body for another 2 to 3 weeks, which will keep converting to estrogen and therefore continue to increase breast tissue.

By the time the steroids are metabolized, you are going to have almost zero testosterone levels and you will have very high estrogen levels, which will cause the breast tissue to keep growing. So instead of stopping your steroids mid cycle, take anti-estrogens with your steroids and that will ensure you don’t develop gynecomastia.

You should always make sure you have Nolvadex on hand. When you use aromatase inhibitors your prescribed doses could be too low or you might miss a dose and Nolvadex can help. If you don’t use an aromatase inhibitor during your cycle having Nolvadex on hand is even more important.

What to do if You Develop Gynecomastia Symptoms

If estrogen has already formed in your body, taking an aromatase inhibitor isn’t going to stop the estrogen that has already formed from causing gynecomastia to develop. Nolvadex is the only drug that can stop gynecomastia symptoms once they begin. Nolvadex works by stopping estrogen from binding to estrogen receptors. To be clear, Nolvadex is generally taken just in situations where there are already gynecomastia symptoms present.

Dosage for Nolvadex

Nolvadex is normally prescribed when gynecomastia symptoms are present. Doses run between 20 mg to 40 mg a day and you will keep taking it until your symptoms disappear. Some doctors will tell you to take Nolvadex after the symptoms are gone, up until your cycle ends.

If you take a low to moderate steroid dosage (200-900 mg/week,) this is the schedule most doctors will prescribe.

Day 1 - 40 mg

Each day until the symptoms are gone -20 mg

Until the end of Clomid therapy - 10 mg/day

If you take a high steroid dosages (>1000 mg/week) your doctor could prescribe double the dosage.

Keeping Your Anabolic Steroid Gains

Steroids temporarily shut down your testosterone production. Once you complete the steroid cycle your body will stop the production of testosterone. If your body isn’t producing testosterone you will be extremely tired, have low to no libido and experience loss of muscle.

Why Synthetic HGH Injections Can Cause Gynecomastia

Just like steroids can cause gynecomastia, because they alter the estrogen, testosterone balance in a man’s body, so can synthetic HGH injections. Many times this balance cannot be reversed without surgery to remove excess breast tissue. This can lead to gynecomastia.

Before you start an HGH regimen your physician will not only determine the correct dosage but also whether you can take HGH and steroids together. There must not be lapses in HGH administration, because it can lead to hormonal imbalances that could lead to gynecomastia. Your pituitary gland excretes growth hormone, which also regulates your sexual hormones. When HGH is not properly administered I can cause an estrogen, testosterone and Prolactin imbalance that can cause the development of gynecomastia.

HGH and Steroids Should Not be Administered Together

Steroids and HGH should not be taken together, because if the two are taken together your risk of developing gynecomastia increases. Since both HGH and steroids cause hormonal imbalances the imbalance is likely to be far worse. If you can’t avoid taking steroids with HGH, make sure your doctor prescribes one of the drugs earlier talked about to help reduce the likelihood of developing gynecomastia. In The case of Prolactin induced Gynecomastia you may also need to use vitamin B6 and/or Pramipexole.

Other Reasons You Might Develop Gynecomastia

Steroids and HGH aren’t the only causes of gynecomastia. If you are overweight your body creates higher levels of estrogen from your adipose tissue or fat. This leads to a hormonal imbalance, which can cause you to develop gynecomastia.

If you have tumors, liver disease or genetic disorders or if you use marijuana you could develop gynecomastia.

Knowing the causes of gynecomastia, the symptoms and what to do when gynecomastia develops is very important. Know the risks of steroids, synthetic HGH injections and some medical conditions and the roles they play in the development of gynecomastia.



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HGH does not effect estrogen or placation levels. It's impossible for HGH to promote gyno formation.
 
HGH does not effect estrogen or placation levels. It's impossible for HGH to promote gyno formation.
Do some more reading besides broscince. I got that from the trt hgh clinic and did some real research. Facts are facts new research is available at google

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not sure where you copy/pasted that article from, but it was awful

you probably got it off meso lol

the entire 2nd half of it was innacurate and just piss poor advice.
 
Got it from my buddies trt clinic website. And I read 2 other new articles that said same thing. Most cases are people who were already high body fat. And his doc said it happends to a low percent.
not sure where you copy/pasted that article from, but it was awful

you probably got it off meso lol

the entire 2nd half of it was innacurate and just piss poor advice.

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Type does hgh cause estrogen.
Hgh and gyno
Can hgh convert prolacton

It will be there

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Type does hgh cause estrogen.
Hgh and gyno
Can hgh convert prolacton

It will be there

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So you copy and pasted an article (that's not nice without referencing the source) and claim it's factual. Just because it's on a site that doesn't mean it's truthful and accurate. More so on a site selling HGH
 
Got it from my buddies trt clinic website. And I read 2 other new articles that said same thing. Most cases are people who were already high body fat. And his doc said it happends to a low percent.

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brother they copy/pasted it off the internet somewhere .. you think the doctor sat there and wrote all that shit out and edited? doctors are too lazy to do any of that. their geek intern googled that shit and copy/pasted it.

the point that you shouldn't use HGH and steroids together is absurd. you realize that every pro takes BOTH right? EVERY SINGLE ONE. and if you are using HGH you should use some steroids too as a regular joe, because they work great together! all the stuff about AI's is too very outdated and wrong info. trust me that entire article should be trashed. but good for you for doing research, just don't get your info from a cookie cutter TRT website.
 
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Personally I have used hgh and test and master and tren and sdrol and never had a issue.
Now a good friend of mine went to a clinic got his hgh and had these swollen nipples.
So he went in they tested him and said hgh attaches to the prolacton gland and causes the symptoms.
I called bullshit but after googling it and reading hundreds of other threads and test online I can not argue the fact that it is happening to other people and other test of hgh shows it can happen. Just do some reading it is out there and just wanted people to have a heads up.
And yes hgh and test together are amazing.
For tyebarticle it was tue first one that google shot at me so I copied pasted.
Try googling it and do not put so much faith in one steroid forum there are like 30 of them out there I am on. They all have different opinions and theories and facts.


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Personally I have used hgh and test and master and tren and sdrol and never had a issue.
Now a good friend of mine went to a clinic got his hgh and had these swollen nipples.
So he went in they tested him and said hgh attaches to the prolacton gland and causes the symptoms.
I called bullshit but after googling it and reading hundreds of other threads and test online I can not argue the fact that it is happening to other people and other test of hgh shows it can happen. Just do some reading it is out there and just wanted people to have a heads up.
And yes hgh and test together are amazing.
For tyebarticle it was tue first one that google shot at me so I copied pasted.
Try googling it and do not put so much faith in one steroid forum there are like 30 of them out there I am on. They all have different opinions and theories and facts.


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One huge problem with the info (here, where you looked and even what was cited) is the guys NEVER tell the truth or give you the whole story. Example, EVERY single study that cites HIGH roid use is based on the user filling out a form or survey. So being able to cite one example (you) or another (your buddy) is NOT proof. In Evo's latest Podcast they had a doc say that there was some who reacted differently. Then, like roids, we are NOT using HGH for medical reasons. Doses vary from 2.5ius EOD to 20iu's a day. Any advice is based on sensible average typical use. Equally, it's rare in our field to ONLY use HGH. So if an HGH clinic says 'it affects test levels' are they the ones administering the test or are they replying on their patients honesty. I can see it as being 'why no doc... I don't use any other drugs... now jab that bitch in'. That's the fkin truth.

PS: If you look like you've written out a long post say so. If you copy and past give the source a mention. Someone else deserves the plug
 
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I would suggest not to underestimate growth hormone and its affects on the human body. I have not personally seen it cause gyno issues nor has it for any of the people I have worked with. However, every person has their own unique chemistry. Whether it is directly or indirectly tied to gyno, gh cannot be ruled out.

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One huge problem with the info (here, where you looked and even what was cited) is the guys NEVER tell the truth or give you the whole story. Example, EVERY single study that cites HIGH roid use is based on the user filling out a form or survey. So being able to cite one example (you) or another (your buddy) is NOT proof. In Evo's latest Podcast they had a doc say that there was some who reacted differently. Then, like roids, we are NOT using HGH for medical reasons. Doses vary from 2.5ius EOD to 20iu's a day. Any advice is based on sensible average typical use. Equally, it's rare in our field to ONLY use HGH. So if an HGH clinic says 'it affects test levels' are they the ones administering the test or are they replying on their patients honesty. I can see ift as being 'why no doc... I don't use any other drugs... now jab that bitch in'. That's the fkin truth
Well he added 500 mg cyp and is using 25 mg aromasin and 20 nolva a day with dbol 80 mg and the issue has stopped. I was tripping on why the clinic would even tell him that risking his business but they did give him the nolvadex and he is paying allot for this.
He is sponsored in LA for a couple supplement stores and does adds so he wanted to make sure his high was legit. I still think it is odd but I am no doctor. I pretty much go by bro science on gear myself but this incident has me doing a lot more research.

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I would suggest not to underestimate growth hormone and its affects on the human body. I have not personally seen it cause gyno issues nor has it for any of the people I have worked with. However, every person has their own unique chemistry. Whether it is directly or indirectly tied to gyno, gh cannot be ruled out.

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That's what the Podcast doc said. But, as I said, we're dealing with averages. So I'm sure you MIGHT find someone not using test and having issues. So what. We've probably a member on Evo with a 12-inch cock. Doesn't mean we'll all have 12-uinch cocks if we post on the forum right? Plus, as I said, people forget everything else they do. So a fat guy on HGH will have issues. Someone drinking or doing a LOT of drugs and meds is as likely to have issues. But they post on a forum saying HGH raised my estrogen. And how often did they get blood tests
 
He told him high binds to the prolacton gland and increasing muscle and testosterone increases estrogen and that was what he told me the doc said. So I Google the shit out of it. But I found at least 10 forum threads on multiple forums with the same issue but using test no high alone.
I would suggest not to underestimate growth hormone and its affects on the human body. I have not personally seen it cause gyno issues nor has it for any of the people I have worked with. However, every person has their own unique chemistry. Whether it is directly or indirectly tied to gyno, gh cannot be ruled out.

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Well he added 500 mg cyp and is using 25 mg aromasin and 20 nolva a day with dbol 80 mg and the issue has stopped. I was tripping on why the clinic would even tell him that risking his business but they did give him the nolvadex and he is paying allot for this.
He is sponsored in LA for a couple supplement stores and does adds so he wanted to make sure his high was legit. I still think it is odd but I am no doctor. I pretty much go by bro science on gear myself but this incident has me doing a lot more research.

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That's a good thing regardless.
 
His body fat is low and he is a pot head.
That's what the Podcast doc said. But, as I said, we're dealing with averages. So I'm sure you MIGHT find someone not using test and having issues. So what. We've probably a member on Evo with a 12-inch cock. Doesn't mean we'll all have 12-uinch cocks if we post on the forum right? Plus, as I said, people forget everything else they do. So a fat guy on HGH will have issues. Someone drinking or doing a LOT of drugs and meds is as likely to have issues. But they post on a forum saying HGH raised my estrogen. And how often did they get blood tests

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His body fat is low and he is a pot head.

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Good on the fat bad on the pot. Google estrogen and pot.

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From 2013 / CNN: Gynecomastia is caused by a hormone imbalance between testosterone and estrogen. ... A report in 1972 made the initial connection between cannabis and gynecomastia. This study is contrasted with a 1977 survey of U.S. Army soldiers which showed no association between smoking marijuana and gynecomastia

Army guys uber fit not having issues... well d'uh vs pot heads sitting around getting gyno... again well d'uh.
 
That was the first gyro and high post on Google his blood work determined it was a progestin issue. So for him it was not the estrogen.

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Gyno and hgh
That was the first gyro and high post on Google his blood work determined it was a progestin issue. So for him it was not the estrogen.

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U can easily find dozens of internet articles saying that marijuana use can cause gyno in men

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So maybe it's your buddies heavy use of marijuana not hgh that caused his gyno
 
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