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HGH Frag 176-191 - Post Up Your Experiences

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Like the title states. Let's hear what those of you who have tried HGH Frag have to say about it.
How did you dose it, what did you stack it with, what were your results like.

Or post up if you have any questions about this peptide.
 
Experiences coming soon....

I will be running hgh frag for 4 weeks during a ud2 diet. The frag protocol will be based on a protocol that I found from dat in which he had great results.
 
From Datbtrue:
Yes it can work well. You need to understand many things... people simply don't want to take the time to learn anymore.
First you need to separate GH's lipolytic effect from its other effects.
When you do this you will see that lipolysis does not happen right away. It takes a specific amount of time before it starts.
Second there is a limit to how much lipolysis will be created with GH. That means a little is all you need and for that unit of time more will be no more effective.
Third there are other things that can be used in conjunction w/ GH to increase lipolysis beyond the GH effect threshold.
So that leaves you with timing. When lipolysis is occurring you want to be in fatloss mode. That means no surplus energy and it means doing things to oxidize the newly liberated fatty acids.
Often people are eating and have increased insulin levels by the time lipolysis is in full swing. That for the most part negates fatloss.
Then you need to understand how long lipolysis will last.
So all of this becomes part of a protocol. You don't just expect something to work w/o the proper environment. You can achieve the lipolysis threshold induced by GH w/ synthetic GH, GHRH/GHRP or GH Frag 176-191.

You should understand GH Frag 176-191 and use it properly. Proper use would be on fast day or days where you fast half the day.
A reconstituted vial degrades fairly quickly and so a whole vial should be used w/in a few days.
If you dose 1mg for the day the way to make it work is to dose 200mcgs every few hours five times during the entire day.
It is best if that day is fairly fasted and if you do eat a meal keep the blood glucose response to the meal contained and do not dose around that meal (or it will be wasted).
Note, that you will not waste away muscle in a fasted state and empty stomach cardio will not eat up muscle. The release of fatty acids or lipolysis is an anti-catabolic event. It is why GH in part is anti-catabolic.
Awaken in the morning and do empty stomach cardio after waiting for the GH induced lipolysis to be in full swing (from say previous GHRH/GHRP administration) and you will be able to effect fatloss and not worry about muscle loss.
Anyway I am not here to teach someone how they could go about doing something. I am just passing by and thought I would comment.

This will be a log of my subjective thoughts on this peptide.

This will be a 5 week high dose experiment.

I will begin in about a week. I will use 1mg per day for 10 days and 2mg per day for the 25 days thereafter. The daily dose will be split into several doses (perhaps 5 doses a day).

The experiment will attempt to remedy the following potential explanations for poor results:
The fact much of it is 177-191 instead of 176-191.

I will use 176-191.

Dose needs to be higher and more frequent (i.e. every 1 to 2 hours)

I will dose 200mgs every 3 hours (5x a day) escalating to 400mgs every 3 hours.

Fragility of peptide/ poor shipping

I will just hope and pray.

Adsorption (Peptide and proteins have a tendency to adsorb to surfaces, and this can pose a significant problem in their delivery. ...most biotechnology- derived proteins are very potent, so doses are very low. Thus, even small amounts of adsorption may lead to a significant loss of drug. *

I will use a reconstituted vial in 1 or two days.

Probably better to combine it with some GH

I will be taking the GHRH/GHRPs as well.

Rats (highly effective) are different then humans (???)
This fragment doesn't naturally occur in humans

The fact that most users across the boards do not report the side-effects of "glucose intolerance, insulin resistance, sodium retention resulting in hypertension and edema" tells me that the quality of their peptide is poor BECAUSE these are side-effects that DO show up in clinical trials.

I will be dosing 5 times a day at 200mg for a total of 1mg a day as he did (I dont plan on upping the dose as he did), but only on the low cal low carb days of the Ud2 diet. Sunday evening through thursday morning.
 
Im gonna be running it with ipramorelin and cjc1295 w/o dac nightly, and a few choice fatburning supps to compliment the frag.

Ill post up a thread with it all soon. Im still working out all the details and trying to get the diet all figured out.


From what ive been reading though I think you'll need more than the 200mcg of frag. It appears most users had the best result in a higher dosing range.
 
you think 500mcg would be enough? it would mean enough for 4 weeks, roughly...

200 is enough for a single dose from what ive read, but it appears to work more effective when dosed multiple times a day away from meals.

If you were going to dose only once a day. Before fasted cardio like you have it would be the best time.
 
200 is enough for a single dose from what ive read, but it appears to work more effective when dosed multiple times a day away from meals.

If you were going to dose only once a day. Before fasted cardio like you have it would be the best time.

my main thought process is frag fasted cause of releasing fat into the blood stream blunting the effects of ghrp6 and Ipa...so thinking this further one could also dose 200mcg with their Ipa prior to bed (since you will ultimately be fasting while you sleep, wake dose again pre fasted cardio, then roll the rest of the day as originally thought...???
 
my main thought process is frag fasted cause of releasing fat into the blood stream blunting the effects of ghrp6 and Ipa...so thinking this further one could also dose 200mcg with their Ipa prior to bed (since you will ultimately be fasting while you sleep, wake dose again pre fasted cardio, then roll the rest of the day as originally thought...???

Exactly right about that. Thats why im only running the peptides at night myself.

As for your plan. Are your goals more fat loss related or muscle building related, or are you trying to strike a balance of the two.

If your going more for fatloss. Id run the more frag over the peptides, and do the peptides at night. If your looking more for muscle while limiting or losing fat then your plan may work out better.
 
200 is enough for a single dose from what ive read, but it appears to work more effective when dosed multiple times a day away from meals.

If you were going to dose only once a day. Before fasted cardio like you have it would be the best time.

hey brah - so frag is utilized best when fasting - so wouldn't it be more beneficial to admin prior to bed (and don't see why you couldn't admin with your nightly GHRP6 or Ipa) - which is a good 6-8 hrs fasting, then admin 30 mins prior to am fasted cardio and not eat for another 2 hrs after; that would allow for almost 10 hours of fasting....then admin either your GHRP6 or Ipa throughout the day???? Your thoughts on this??
 
Id like to run this for 6 weeks at 500mcg each night prior to bed. Thats the closest I come to fasting. Will this be effective for fat loss?

How do you reconstitute this? Specifically how much BA do you use for a 5mg vial?? If Im running 500mcg a night how many vials do I need. I am SO ****ty at this part.

Thanks.
 
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