Veteran Thread High quality eggs, chicken, beef. the difference is real. nutrition post of the month

[Noah Wixx]

I'm a big fan of both Aldi (No2) and Lidl's (No1). Aldi's, a few weeks back, had proper Waygu RibEye in. Now that WAS expensive. I prefer Lidl's just for their theme weeks

The mobile butcher I used started out selling meat to Rugby players and bodybuilders. We also have specific online home delivery meat companies and aimed at bodybuilders. The issue, as is often the case in the US, is delivery. The cost of shipping across country would be hard in the US

I think i remember you speaking about the mobile butcher and meat delivery on the podcast a time or two, which that is pretty damn awesome people starting up a super helpful and convenient business model shuch as that, i have some small connections that im working with and on for saving alot more money, a family friend owns a farm and all her cattle is grass grazing no antibiotics or cheep cattle feed, all nautral and organic, i will be buying a quater cow, just waiting on the cow to be ready, she will have it sent to the butcher and all packaged up for me, so it is my hope besides buying the other things, rice and broccoli etc, i will see a huge savings once I have the cow since the most expensive part of prep is the protien portion.

 

[ballin2504]

Absolutely right brother. Always nice to have good clean food

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Ran out of edit time earlier so...


It's a bug bear of mine so more bitching by me lol

In both the US and UK I see people moaning about prices. The trouble is prices NEVER stay the same. Or else I'd be paying what I paid when I first started work in 1980.

People say this and that and then carry on doing the same shit. Go to the same shops, buy the same amounts and bitch. Then go and pay stupid money on a car they will never own and buy an even bigger big screen TV or upgrade to the latest iPhone and then moan some more about how expensive shit it. C'mon. The worst are ones moaning about costs and still using the internet, having Sky TV and so on. Knock that shit off and save $100 a month. In the US you'll buy a house which comes, all too often, with HOA annual fees too. That shit is crazy to me. I own (outright - no mortgage) my house (huge former social club) and I'm beholden to no one. I don't drive but have owned a car (GF drove it). 2nd hand and paid cash. Moaned about the bills though lol. Same set of off road tyres on it as when I bought it (GF owns it now).

On saving:
1. I have two small chest freezers. One upstairs in the kitchen and one near my office. It means I can buy in bulk and have room for the food.
2. I buy meat (just started doing this again) direct from a local award winning (was Welsh butcher of the year) as well as deals in Lidls. Xmas I spent a small fortune on amazing roasts. I even bought a reduced shin beef thing (feeds 4-6) and straight in the freezer. During covid I had gym buddies buy with me and most weekly orders were £100. The butcher would knock 10% off often or add something for free.
3. I'm probably gonna buy a 20kg/44lbs sack on unflavored whey soon. I'll be buying that direct from the importer. It'll be £220 It's the same company I used when I had a supplement company. If I buy small amounts the per kilo price is double. My business started as a buyers club.
4. Two smallish local farms do lamb (sheep) and you can buy 1/2 and whole lamb direct.
5. One of the strength athletes I know is a mobile slaughter-man (goes to farms to kill and butcher the meat). We ALL have buddies who are electricians and so on. Food too surely


On the quality thing
Start with bulk buying normal grade. Put the savings to one side. Buy top grade with that money. Freeze. Run the top grade when on cycle

i buy meat in bulk too bro
i got a deer from a friend it was good freezing it out, for sure bulk is the way

 

[RoidRageWife]

@stevesmi everything you said is fact bro but here is the problem, its a financial issue, most guys CANNOT afford to eat all grass fed and high quality food due to money straight up fact
70% of guys struggling to buy day to day meal prep too, keep this in mind

Yep it’s fucked up that we pay more to eat healthy! It’s I think a bit of a business model to keep American as unhealthy as we can, so you can then spend more on healthcare to eat more pills and see more specialist doctors keeping the industries making money treating us. But as said you are at the mercy of what you can afford too. so you pick and choose. I love to get grass fed of organic but it sure cost more. When Your income doesn’t keep up you’re in a place. Just what government likes to control you. It’s really sad and Too bad. Wish I made more money so I could buy all the better healthier options. Because a lot of it can make a difference

 

[RoidRageWife]

The average price of ground beef in the United States in 2020 was $4.12 per pound. In January 2025, the average price of ground beef was projected to be $5.735 per pound for all uncooked ground beef, $7.110 per pound for lean and extra lean ground beef, and $5.545 per pound for 100% ground beef.

2016: The average price of a dozen eggs was below $2
2022: Egg prices more than doubled
2023: Egg prices peaked at $4.82 per dozen in January
2024: Egg prices continued to increase
January 2025: The average price of a dozen eggs reached $4.95, a 45-year high

In 2020, the average price of regular gasoline was $2.168 per gallon.
2022
In January 2022, the average price of gasoline was $3.315 per gallon, and in April it was $4.213 per gallon.
2023
In January 2023, the average price of gasoline was $3.339 per gallon, and in September it was $3.836 per gallon.
2024
In January 2024, the average price of gasoline was $3.075 per gallon, and in April it was $3.733 per gallon.
2025
In January 2025, the average price of regular gasoline was $3.08 per gallon.
2025 price expectations
The national average for regular gas in 2025 was expected to stay below $3.50 per gallon each month.

Also depends on what state you live in too!! What is your government issues per state! Taxes. Washington state top highest prices if all states. It’s crazy. So u can push up these avg prices towards higher avg.

 

[Noah Wixx]

Also depends on what state you live in too!! What is your government issues per state! Taxes. Washington state top highest prices if all states. It’s crazy. So u can push up these avg prices towards higher avg.

Yeah that is true as well

 

[Mobster]

Also depends on what state you live in too!! What is your government issues per state! Taxes. Washington state top highest prices if all states. It’s crazy. So u can push up these avg prices towards higher avg.

Same here. I'd bet a buck London prices will be higher

 

[Mobster]

Yep it’s fucked up that we pay more to eat healthy! It’s I think a bit of a business model to keep American as unhealthy as we can, so you can then spend more on healthcare to eat more pills and see more specialist doctors keeping the industries making money treating us. But as said you are at the mercy of what you can afford too. so you pick and choose. I love to get grass fed of organic but it sure cost more. When Your income doesn’t keep up you’re in a place. Just what government likes to control you. It’s really sad and Too bad. Wish I made more money so I could buy all the better healthier options. Because a lot of it can make a difference

A survey, done some years ago, showed that most of PEDs are more likely to be college or better educated and with disposable income.

I suspect more blue collar workers are using PEDs now and yet it's still with spare money.

The late Paul Borreson talked about stocking up on not just PEDs but steaks etc too. Then, when on cycle, out comes the high grade food.

 

[stevesmi]

Also depends on what state you live in too!! What is your government issues per state! Taxes. Washington state top highest prices if all states. It’s crazy. So u can push up these avg prices towards higher avg.

Washington state does not tax groceries. although it isn't a bad idea to do a 'fat tax' on junk food. hmmm...

Idaho, South Dakota, Mississippi, and Tennessee are the only ones that do. And it’s a very small amount. And Missouri allows local governments to tax.

When I worked in retail if I scanned a jug of milk no taxes added. But if I scan a tie it’s added. Always thought it was cool the system knew by barcode. a guy once bought a jug of milk and the bar code was ripped, so i had to manually put in his item and it added tax and he about blew aq gasket "Milk has sales tax??!!" i learned right then in there that The stores scanners cannot tax food cause of the specific bar code but if you scan it manually it automatically adds tax lol. eh i was a teen at the time and making a nickel above minimum wage so i didn't give a fuck lol

 

[stevesmi]

Yep it’s fucked up that we pay more to eat healthy! It’s I think a bit of a business model to keep American as unhealthy as we can, so you can then spend more on healthcare to eat more pills and see more specialist doctors keeping the industries making money treating us. But as said you are at the mercy of what you can afford too. so you pick and choose. I love to get grass fed of organic but it sure cost more. When Your income doesn’t keep up you’re in a place. Just what government likes to control you. It’s really sad and Too bad. Wish I made more money so I could buy all the better healthier options. Because a lot of it can make a difference

If people stopped buying low quality then more farmers would produce it which would lower the prices. But the reason farmers raise low quality is because it’s cheaper in the first place. Much cheaper to raise chickens in cages than outside. Hence the price difference. Such a thing is banned in other countries.

In other words look at it this way. It’s not that you pay more for quality. It’s that you pay less for less quality. And the government is owned by farming in this country and has been since the start. i mean george washington himself was a farmer!!!. the germans, irish, and others literally came here for the sole purpose to farm. So that isn’t changing in our lifetimes since we have the climate and land to grow and farm. the corporate farms are the ones who want lower quality and want low standards. So YOU and ME and EVERYONE need to make the right choices and just don't buy from them.

We are actually lucky we now have access to quality food. We didn’t during the 90s. Today there is enough demand for quality that health food stores are popping up. So that is good. I can tell you I once went up and down the entire cat food aisle at my big supermarket chain and couldn’t find a healthy thing to feed my cat. I wouldn’t even buy food for my strays that’s how bad it was. So you can imagine how the human food is.

It’s best to shop at places like co ops or health food stores if you want quality if you live in a rural area. co ops are where i shopped when i lived in 'rural america' and those places not only buy local but they are also not for profit, which all food should be. the extra money they made went to their employees who were much happier and more pleasant to deal with and got to know you personably since they weren't turning over staff left and right. i also would visit a 'local butcher place' as noah mentioned above which always had nice deals on 2 day old meat which was perfectly fine. Otherwise move closer to the city where there is people who demand healthier options.

either way the economic argument is a bunch of BS and i explain it many times on our podcast and some dude argued with me on a platform and this is how i explained it to him. in the USA we spend 10% of our income on food. that is the lowest you will find anywhere. even in your state where people make way more then other places, if you compare what you make vs. what you pay its still gonna be the same. doing your same job in alabama you would get paid less even if the cost of living was less for example. so you have to compare apples to apples and not apples to oranges. so our food is cheap vs. what we make. in Africa people spend typically 80% of their income on food and many cannot even afford to spend $1 a day on food. and here in america people are bitching, talk about being out of touch. as the redneck captain of my fishing boat always says "americans are spoiled" lol.. when people ask him to clean their fish they only want it filleted. the bones, organs, head, ribs get dumped.. a complete waste. it pisses him off everytime and i don't blame him

 

[stevesmi]

A survey, done some years ago, showed that most of PEDs are more likely to be college or better educated and with disposable income.

I suspect more blue collar workers are using PEDs now and yet it's still with spare money.

The late Paul Borreson talked about stocking up on not just PEDs but steaks etc too. Then, when on cycle, out comes the high grade food.

yeah that survey is way outdated.

with the price of gear and availability it is def more blue collar. this forum proves it. we have some lawyers and professionals here and there but its mostly blue collar dudes these days.

my first cycles cost routinely 4 figures, now they are a 3rd of that price. even a regular dude can afford cycles these days

 

[stevesmi]

Same here. I'd bet a buck London prices will be higher

nah the UK doesn't tax food from what i looked up.

but it actually isn't a BAD idea. it would sort of be like a 'fat tax' .. tax junk food and use that money to provide healthcare. hmmmm...

it won't happen of course. junk food franchise joints and restaurants would never allow that. LMAO

everyone and their mom these days owns a franchise restaurant it seems.

 

[stevesmi]

I think i remember you speaking about the mobile butcher and meat delivery on the podcast a time or two, which that is pretty damn awesome people starting up a super helpful and convenient business model shuch as that, i have some small connections that im working with and on for saving alot more money, a family friend owns a farm and all her cattle is grass grazing no antibiotics or cheep cattle feed, all nautral and organic, i will be buying a quater cow, just waiting on the cow to be ready, she will have it sent to the butcher and all packaged up for me, so it is my hope besides buying the other things, rice and broccoli etc, i will see a huge savings once I have the cow since the most expensive part of prep is the protien portion.

yeah in your parts you have a lot of good family farms, i'm sure you can get some of the best stuff for sure

thankfully where i live there is a family farm to the north that has been in the business for 300 some years or some crazy amount of time, and they have stuck to their guns and stayed grassfed.. they also closed off a large portion of their land to prevent development and protecting the rivers and nature around it. they sell their stuff to WF and a few of the chains so its a win/win for all. when people eat at my place they think i am some great chef, but i'm not.. its just that the beef and steak i cook comes from that place vs. the chemical crap they are used to eating

 

[Mobster]

nah the UK doesn't tax food from what i looked up.

but it actually isn't a BAD idea. it would sort of be like a 'fat tax' .. tax junk food and use that money to provide healthcare. hmmmm...

it won't happen of course. junk food franchise joints and restaurants would never allow that. LMAO

everyone and their mom these days owns a franchise restaurant it seems.

Nah London prices will be higher on some things just cos rent and property prices are a LOT higher. What I paid for my place would be 30x more in London and even a bog standard 2 bed terraced house would be 6x as much as near me. (£600k vs £100k or circa $700k vs $120k). London prices on gas can be higher. When go there we always gas up a LONG way from London.

On taxes. When I started my supps company we paid no tax. Just as we wound it up they introduced a tax on protein. I even had to argue with the tax office about them fucking up before the law changed (my evidence came from their own site).

By way of example back when I worked in what was a civil service type roll (1990-2205) we got what was called 'London Weighting' which was simply a way of adding money to my salary to allow for London costs in what was a national standard role (eqv to EO simply because the lower grades (AA or AO) are not out there dealing with emergency shit (like car crashes etc) which we did. I had this very conversation when I had to claim Government assistance and got into it with the AO on the other side of the table lol

 

[stevesmi]

Nah London prices will be higher on some things just cos rent and property prices are a LOT higher. What I paid for my place would be 30x more in London and even a bog standard 2 bed terraced house would be 6x as much as near me. (£600k vs £100k)

of course city is gonna be more pricey. same thing in the US. cities are more pricey and if you live out in the sticks it is cheaper. a lot of people also live in sailboats too. i'm too OCD to do that though

 

[Mobster]

of course city is gonna be more pricey. same thing in the US. cities are more pricey and if you live out in the sticks it is cheaper. a lot of people also live in sailboats too. i'm too OCD to do that though

My place would drive you crazy then lol

 

[stevesmi]

My place would drive you crazy then lol

from what i see your place looks haunted as hell. the cats would protect me though lol

 

[Mobster]

from what i see your place looks haunted as hell. the cats would protect me though lol

I need to get 2 more to replace the ones that passed away

 

[RoidRageWife]

Washington state does not tax groceries. although it isn't a bad idea to do a 'fat tax' on junk food. hmmm...

Idaho, South Dakota, Mississippi, and Tennessee are the only ones that do. And it’s a very small amount. And Missouri allows local governments to tax.

When I worked in retail if I scanned a jug of milk no taxes added. But if I scan a tie it’s added. Always thought it was cool the system knew by barcode. a guy once bought a jug of milk and the bar code was ripped, so i had to manually put in his item and it added tax and he about blew aq gasket "Milk has sales tax??!!" i learned right then in there that The stores scanners cannot tax food cause of the specific bar code but if you scan it manually it automatically adds tax lol. eh i was a teen at the time and making a nickel above minimum wage so i didn't give a fuck lol

That’s intersting. Wa does tax sugar pop in Seattle!! This state taxes the shit out of everything Else!!! Like they’re thinking they’re doing us a service by not taxing food but they kill us with all the rest!

 

[RoidRageWife]

nah the UK doesn't tax food from what i looked up.

but it actually isn't a BAD idea. it would sort of be like a 'fat tax' .. tax junk food and use that money to provide healthcare. hmmmm...

it won't happen of course. junk food franchise joints and restaurants would never allow that. LMAO

everyone and their mom these days owns a franchise restaurant it seems.

But in states there is a service tax on food served to you. So fast food is still taxed. It’s just super cheap so that lower income can still eat out remain unhealthy! Why can’t we have healthy fast foods?? Lol.