How long should clomiphene and mk677 be used to prevent tolerance build-up?

[ROIDDERS]

are you going to log your experience or are you going to keep asking questions

 

[ceo]

Bros seriously we're waiting for your log it will answer your own questions that way

 

[RoidRage69]

He is afraid to start a log because he thinks he wont get anyone following it. He gets more hits spamming a new thread everyday.

 

[Phill]

As for mk677, my goal is making HGH levels as high as possible within natural range and limits. Mk677 can't give a HGH level above natural limits, so any level will be within natural range. What I want is to make the level as high as possible, having it at pubertal values.

If pubertal values can't be reached, then anything higher than the average level for my age group will be absolutely welcomed.

where did you find all this incorrect information?

Mk677 can't give a HGH level above natural limits?
mk does not suppress natural gh?

 

[GoldenPlague]

where did you find all this incorrect information?

Mk677 can't give a HGH level above natural limits?
mk does not suppress natural gh?

Why incorrect? As far as I know, mk677 can't give a GH level beyond natural limit because it doesn't add exogenous GH. Also, it can boost GH, but indirectly; it stimulates ghrelin, which, in turn, stimulates GH. I don't see how this mechanism of action can suppress natural GH or give a GH level beyond natural limit.

Did I understand it correctly or wrongly?

 

[ballin2504]

Guys isn’t this the same guy with ALL of the posts and no log yet.

 

[HybridLabs]

Yeah, but the problem that exogenous HGH (Somatotropin) suppresses natural GH production. I'm looking for a way to boost GH levels to naturally high values without exceeding natural range.

Naturally high T and GH will help me for my goals, but as for now I don't need levels beyond natural range. I just need to make my T and GH levels as high as possible within natural range.

As for elevated blood sugar due to mk677, I think it comes from consuming a lot of food due to an increased appetite from the ghrelin stimulation, not directly from mk677.

Hgh only suppresses natural gh production for the period its active in the body. Injecting gh has a short half life. If you inject it before bed it only supresses you overnight..by the morning your body is producing it again itself. And if you stop using hgh your body will continue to product hgh with no issues. It doesn't shut you down at all.

So suppression of natural gh production is not an issue at all when using hgh.

 

[GoldenPlague]

Hgh only suppresses natural gh production for the period its active in the body. Injecting gh has a short half life. If you inject it before bed it only supresses you overnight..by the morning your body is producing it again itself. And if you stop using hgh your body will continue to product hgh with no issues. It doesn't shut you down at all.

So suppression of natural gh production is not an issue at all when using hgh.

So suppression of GH due to exogenous GH isn't long-lasting and doesn't require additional medications to recover as suppression of T due to exogenous T does?

Okay, I understand.

But for now, I prefer mk677 for GH boost.

 

[Phill]

Why incorrect? As far as I know, mk677 can't give a GH level beyond natural limit because it doesn't add exogenous GH. Also, it can boost GH, but indirectly; it stimulates ghrelin, which, in turn, stimulates GH. I don't see how this mechanism of action can suppress natural GH or give a GH level beyond natural limit.

Did I understand it correctly or wrongly?

if a drug makes me produce only the natural, without taking me over, I don't see why I should take it.

I repeat the question: where did you get this information?

 

[Ori]

Yeah, but the problem that exogenous HGH (Somatotropin) suppresses natural GH production. I'm looking for a way to boost GH levels to naturally high values without exceeding natural range.

Naturally high T and GH will help me for my goals, but as for now I don't need levels beyond natural range. I just need to make my T and GH levels as high as possible within natural range.

As for elevated blood sugar due to mk677, I think it comes from consuming a lot of food due to an increased appetite from the ghrelin stimulation, not directly from mk677.

I have a blood sugar monitor and can guarantee you that MK667 does increase blood sugar regardless of diet.

Also even though HGH suppresses natural production is meaningless as HGH production rebounds rapidly even after shutdown isn’t like testosterone at all.

 

[GoldenPlague]

if a drug makes me produce only the natural, without taking me over, I don't see why I should take it.

I repeat the question: where did you get this information?

In my case, the reason is that an upper limit T level is better than an average or a low bottom level.

Also, in my case, performance-enhancing is not the only goal. I have a second goal that will be better achieved if T and GH levels are elevated, but natural.

I need to spend some time on naturally high T and GH levels, and after that, I will start using steroids.

 

[GoldenPlague]

I have a blood sugar monitor and can guarantee you that MK667 does increase blood sugar regardless of diet.

Also even though HGH suppresses natural production is meaningless as HGH production rebounds rapidly even after shutdown isn’t like testosterone at all.

I don't think I will get diabetes or significantly elevated blood sugar level, if I use mk677 for 8 or 12 weeks, not indefinitely.

Mk677 shouldn't increase my blood sugar to dangerous levels.

 

[Ori]

I don't think I will get diabetes or significantly elevated blood sugar level, if I use mk677 for 8 or 12 weeks, not indefinitely.

Mk677 shouldn't increase my blood sugar to dangerous levels.

It should be temporary. I find that taking it at night after fasting for at least two hours, then doing fasted cardio the next morning (not high intensity) helps keep it under pre-diabetes levels while on the MK677.

Despite it doing that stuff is actually still my favourite growth hormone secretagogue, I love it.

 

[RoySimpson]

Stick with our approved sources always!!

 

[RoySimpson]

Dont abuse at such a young age!

 

[Noah Wixx]

U don't need any of that at this point in the game

 

[GoldenPlague]

Dont abuse at such a young age!

I'm not young. In about 2.5 years from now, endocrine decline will begin, followed by cognitive, bone mineral, vision, and many other types of decline...

 

[GoldenPlague]

U don't need any of that at this point in the game

I need them. I know my testosterone and free testosterone levels are within normal range, but not at highest possible natural levels.

 

[25homes]

I agree with chesty you dont need any HGH

 

[Mobster]

There's a LOT of confusion over suppression of GH.