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Veteran Thread How much earlier than people thing did athletes use PEDs?

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I've a book - Testosterone Dreams. The writer... kinda sucks. It's like you can 100% tell he lectures at a University. Clever, lots of great research, but it still kinda sucks. Anyway a few points are ok. One relates to how the various anti-drug orgs really need to look at the history of PED use. Like right back... all the damn way lol

I've written before about how during the ancient (original) Olympic Games you can find written evidence of arguments about sandals vs bare feet. Ditto eating bulls testicles c1400bc and the Egyptians (an early testosterone therapy idea?). Another was consuming figs for energy. Booze (brandy) and 'magic mushrooms were used by the Greeks themselves. Beserkers used bufotein to enhance 'rage off'.

So-called Victorian Gentlemen (of all countries) circa the late 1900's were speed and coked off their tits. And belladonna,strychnine, nitroglycerine and 'morphine. The whole damn Victorian medical cabinet lol

Later early modern games had one of the first drug fails be in 1968 for '2 beers to clam their nerves' by a Swedish athlete.

One point I've made before was how full blown 'nattys' like to claim how Golden age bodybuilding heroes never use steroids, GI recently had one of their posts state quite clearly that steroids were NOT used in 1950's. Stevesmi and I did a podcast (and referenced it in more since) were I cited Golden Era Bookworm proved the famous John Grimek DID try them. John D Fair provided proof of it and also wrote a HUGE piece on York Barbell and John Zieglars role in the development and use of DBol.

I've also written how Charles Edouard Brown-Sequard tried injecting testicular extracts (dog and gerbil testes extracts) as did a baseball player trying the mix. On our show we included an image from ad in (huge in it's day) Popular Science magazine for Methyl Test in the 1930's. Bodybuilding magazines, such as Health & Strength, had ads for hormone boosters in the mid 1930's. So well before 1950

I can carry on. Those in charge need reminding and those who deny it's use need to wake up
 
I've a book - Testosterone Dreams. The writer... kinda sucks. It's like you can 100% tell he lectures at a University. Clever, lots of great research, but it still kinda sucks. Anyway a few points are ok. One relates to how the various anti-drug orgs really need to look at the history of PED use. Like right back... all the damn way lol

I've written before about how during the ancient (original) Olympic Games you can find written evidence of arguments about sandals vs bare feet. Ditto eating bulls testicles c1400bc and the Egyptians (an early testosterone therapy idea?). Another was consuming figs for energy. Booze (brandy) and 'magic mushrooms were used by the Greeks themselves. Beserkers used bufotein to enhance 'rage off'.

So-called Victorian Gentlemen (of all countries) circa the late 1900's were speed and coked off their tits. And belladonna,strychnine, nitroglycerine and 'morphine. The whole damn Victorian medical cabinet lol

Later early modern games had one of the first drug fails be in 1968 for '2 beers to clam their nerves' by a Swedish athlete.

One point I've made before was how full blown 'nattys' like to claim how Golden age bodybuilding heroes never use steroids, GI recently had one of their posts state quite clearly that steroids were NOT used in 1950's. Stevesmi and I did a podcast (and referenced it in more since) were I cited Golden Era Bookworm proved the famous John Grimek DID try them. John D Fair provided proof of it and also wrote a HUGE piece on York Barbell and John Zieglars role in the development and use of DBol.

I've also written how Charles Edouard Brown-Sequard tried injecting testicular extracts (dog and gerbil testes extracts) as did a baseball player trying the mix. On our show we included an image from ad in (huge in it's day) Popular Science magazine for Methyl Test in the 1930's. Bodybuilding magazines, such as Health & Strength, had ads for hormone boosters in the mid 1930's. So well before 1950

I can carry on. Those in charge need reminding and those who deny it's use need to wake up
@Mobster I think all guys used steroids back in the day like 99% that had access, minimum dbol
great write up @Mobster

@AE1079 what do you think?

@Pigsy @Noah Wixx @Npcclassicphysique champ @Arabian @ceo @stevesmi comment please
 
Will be cool to see where things are at in another 50 or 100 years
They'll probably look back and laugh at us for what we're using today
 
people have been trying to outdo each other since the beginning of time
it's in our nature
 
bro my ancestors was fightin the red coats back in 1700's and used tren
it was around in those days 1000% .. taht how we beat the red coats ass and drove them out of texas
 
I think they most likely used natural remedies for certain activities and scenarios.

But like what was said, humans out do each other. Always looking to improve right? Even outside of bodybuilding circles, many politicians and tyrannical figures used drugs to keep them going for longer periods of time. Nothin lg different to what we are trying to achieve now. I think there’s curiosity within humans to try new things in order to advance. Which I think has been done for generations.

PEDs now are evolving, we are moving away from steroids more so and now going into more intricate ways of increasing performance without the systemic burden that steroids have. Mitochondria enhancers, exercise mimitecs and peptides are taking more of a forefront then ever before. Steroids will always have a place as it’s biologically identical hormones, but we are now at a place where we can use less of these hormones and more of the newer stuff as we have seen great synergy. This is why now when I see people post about their cycles they are doing so much outdated shit. I think it’s important to move with the times constantly like we have for many years and keep educating people the right way about future use.
 
bro my ancestors was fightin the red coats back in 1700's and used tren
it was around in those days 1000% .. taht how we beat the red coats ass and drove them out of texas
Actually tea and coffee - 8 cups a day - were given to the US side. Stimmed to fuck
 
I would be curious to see statistics of how many people use steroids today versus 20 years ago or 30 years ago
I bet the numbers are huge today
100%. 1 million users here in the UK
 
Actually tea and coffee - 8 cups a day - were given to the US side. Stimmed to fuck
bro at Battle of Gonzales my great great great great great granddad brewed up tren no ester pre battle... he brew it up in barn. work good. we won

we put a whippin on yo tea sippin ass.
 
humans will always try and out smart each other
it is happening now with AI and technology
 
bro at Battle of Gonzales my great great great great great granddad brewed up tren no ester pre battle... he brew it up in barn. work good. we won

we put a whippin on yo tea sippin ass.
damn bodymonster
you have a violent family history
 
i would say it would be cool to see how we advance in the next 10 or 15 years
i would think blends would be a thing
 
I am not sure about the history but i know that bodybuilding is crazy with the PED use
even on the women side it is getting stupid
 
Will be cool to see where things are at in another 50 or 100 years
They'll probably look back and laugh at us for what we're using today

You’re correct.
 
It is that competitive nature to try and find something that will give you the edge over competition. So interesting to see what they have been doing since ancient times!
 
Good info
 
Shanking Redcoats with bayonets lol
bro my great great great great great granddaddy bodymonster shanked your great great great great granddad in battle of Houston 1764. he was on tren no ester. troo story. he shanked most redcoats in 1 battle in history with 1 blade.. shanked them all in throat. they give him 1000 acres land east texas after war as reward.
 
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