Approved Log HRT LOG

[mads]

proud of you !

 

[Noah Wixx]

Dinner, Simple but delicious!
Shame your steak always has to shrink so much

I also hate the fact steak shrinks so much especially for how pricy steak is.

 

[LevButlerov]

I think before prescribing a fast to anyone you should look into actual tolerance of fasting on an individual basis, what if someone gets hypo? High thyroid? Low blood pressure?

@AE1079 with all due respect hypo? that means they have issues with blood sugar and have pre-diabetic conditions, high thyroid? fasting would mitigate thyroid levels, low bp? fasting should implement electrolytes with higher sodium which would actually mod the BP.
Fasting fixes many issues, seems you should do more research on it. @stevesmi has articles and logs about it

@Smiley G can review this herself
10 day water fast:
https://www.evolutionary.org/10-day-water-fast/

19 day water fast:
https://www.evolutionary.org/my-19-day-water-fast-story/

I also suggest you do more research on the topic yourself @AE1079. I think you're a great bodybuilding and fitness coach, one of the best on EVO if not the best, and you're a top bodybuilder, but it doesn't mean you can't increase your game and knowledge base with fasting.

Studies to review:​

• 1. Fasting and Hypoglycemia (Blood Sugar Regulation):
  
  • Study: Cahill GF Jr. (2006). Fuel metabolism in starvation. Annual Review of Nutrition, 26, 1–22.
    
    Findings: This review discusses how the body adapts to prolonged fasting by shifting from glucose to ketone bodies as the primary fuel source, thereby maintaining energy balance and reducing the risk of hypoglycemia in healthy individuals.
    
    Link: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16848698/
  • Study: Anton SD, Moehl K, Donahoo WT, et al. (2018). Flipping the Metabolic Switch: Understanding and Applying the Health Benefits of Fasting. Obesity, 26(2), 254–268.
    
    Findings: This study highlights that intermittent fasting can enhance insulin sensitivity and reduce inflammation, contributing to better blood sugar regulation.
    
    Link: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29086496/
• 2. Fasting and Thyroid Function:
  
  • Study: Jordan SD, Wirth EK, Witte N, et al. (2010). Dietary restriction increases the adrenal glucocorticoid response to fasting and chronic stress in C57BL/6 mice. Journal of Endocrinology, 206(3), 153–163.
    
    Findings: This study indicates that while fasting can lead to a decrease in active thyroid hormone (T3) levels, this is an adaptive response aimed at conserving energy, rather than indicating thyroid dysfunction.
    
    Link: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20685867/
  • Study: Fontana L, Meyer TE, Klein S, Holloszy JO. (2006). Long-term calorie restriction is highly effective in reducing the risk for atherosclerosis in humans. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, 101(17), 6659–6663.
    
    Findings: This research found that long-term calorie restriction, which includes periods of fasting, leads to lower T3 levels without signs of hypothyroidism, suggesting a beneficial metabolic adaptation.
    
    Link: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16585055/
• 3. Fasting and Blood Pressure:
  
  • Study: Carter S, Clifton PM, Keogh JB. (2016). The effects of intermittent compared to continuous energy restriction on glycaemic control in type 2 diabetes; a pragmatic pilot trial. Diabetes Research and Clinical Practice, 122, 106–112.
    
    Findings: This pilot trial demonstrated that intermittent energy restriction can lead to improvements in blood pressure and vascular endothelial function in individuals with type 2 diabetes.
    
    Link: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27080988/
  • Study: Tinsley GM, La Bounty PM. (2015). Effects of intermittent fasting on body composition and clinical health markers in humans. Nutrition Reviews, 73(10), 661–674.
    
    Findings: This review found that time-restricted feeding, a form of intermittent fasting, can lead to reductions in blood pressure among other health benefits.
    
    Link: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26384657/

 

[stevesmi]

You won’t go hypo fasting unless you are on anti diabetes meds. Your liver releases glycogen during a fast into the bloodstream. Anyone can fast and test this out themselves to prove it

Same with blood pressure. Your blood pressure doesn’t drop down that low on a fast. It will actually fluctuate as your body is releasing adrenaline.

 

[AE1079]

@AE1079 with all due respect hypo? that means they have issues with blood sugar and have pre-diabetic conditions, high thyroid? fasting would mitigate thyroid levels, low bp? fasting should implement electrolytes with higher sodium which would actually mod the BP.
Fasting fixes many issues, seems you should do more research on it. @stevesmi has articles and logs about it

@Smiley G can review this herself
10 day water fast:
https://www.evolutionary.org/10-day-water-fast/

19 day water fast:
https://www.evolutionary.org/my-19-day-water-fast-story/

I also suggest you do more research on the topic yourself @AE1079. I think you're a great bodybuilding and fitness coach, one of the best on EVO if not the best, and you're a top bodybuilder, but it doesn't mean you can't increase your game and knowledge base with fasting.

Studies to review:​

• 1. Fasting and Hypoglycemia (Blood Sugar Regulation):
  • Study: Cahill GF Jr. (2006). Fuel metabolism in starvation. Annual Review of Nutrition, 26, 1–22.
    
    Findings: This review discusses how the body adapts to prolonged fasting by shifting from glucose to ketone bodies as the primary fuel source, thereby maintaining energy balance and reducing the risk of hypoglycemia in healthy individuals.
    
    Link: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16848698/
  • Study: Anton SD, Moehl K, Donahoo WT, et al. (2018). Flipping the Metabolic Switch: Understanding and Applying the Health Benefits of Fasting. Obesity, 26(2), 254–268.
    
    Findings: This study highlights that intermittent fasting can enhance insulin sensitivity and reduce inflammation, contributing to better blood sugar regulation.
    
    Link: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29086496/
• 2. Fasting and Thyroid Function:
  • Study: Jordan SD, Wirth EK, Witte N, et al. (2010). Dietary restriction increases the adrenal glucocorticoid response to fasting and chronic stress in C57BL/6 mice. Journal of Endocrinology, 206(3), 153–163.
    
    Findings: This study indicates that while fasting can lead to a decrease in active thyroid hormone (T3) levels, this is an adaptive response aimed at conserving energy, rather than indicating thyroid dysfunction.
    
    Link: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20685867/
  • Study: Fontana L, Meyer TE, Klein S, Holloszy JO. (2006). Long-term calorie restriction is highly effective in reducing the risk for atherosclerosis in humans. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, 101(17), 6659–6663.
    
    Findings: This research found that long-term calorie restriction, which includes periods of fasting, leads to lower T3 levels without signs of hypothyroidism, suggesting a beneficial metabolic adaptation.
    
    Link: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16585055/
• 3. Fasting and Blood Pressure:
  • Study: Carter S, Clifton PM, Keogh JB. (2016). The effects of intermittent compared to continuous energy restriction on glycaemic control in type 2 diabetes; a pragmatic pilot trial. Diabetes Research and Clinical Practice, 122, 106–112.
    
    Findings: This pilot trial demonstrated that intermittent energy restriction can lead to improvements in blood pressure and vascular endothelial function in individuals with type 2 diabetes.
    
    Link: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27080988/
  • Study: Tinsley GM, La Bounty PM. (2015). Effects of intermittent fasting on body composition and clinical health markers in humans. Nutrition Reviews, 73(10), 661–674.
    
    Findings: This review found that time-restricted feeding, a form of intermittent fasting, can lead to reductions in blood pressure among other health benefits.
    
    Link: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26384657/

with all due respect- hypoglycaemia can happen with anyone at any point, you have no idea what your prescribing to random people without medical history present. It would be irresponsible to tell someone go fast for 36 hours, it’s uncomfortable and it’s stressful. You have people working jobs and moving around. Sure in theory - with the studies you have shown here it works. But with all due respect @LevButlerov before you come through guns blazing, this is related to anecdote and individual response. If your aren’t working with a client, you shouldn’t suggest something that can potentially stress out a person looking for advice. That’s my argument, all of these studies are well good. But you have no idea what type of reaction that person will have. Imagine someone then saying, that bloke lev told me to fast and now I’m having a full hypoglycaemic episode and a panic attack… think about it bro. You have clients right? You’re not going to tell someone jump on 500mg test straight off the bat without prior history? Even worse fasting complicates things further.

As you know I have strong opinions, and this is a terrible idea, you can combat inflammation by fixing other modalities, not going to the extreme for 36 hrs and then getting someone to potentially reverse themselves into a worse place, as it may cause psychological harm or even worse can bring trauma in some individuals. Silly.

So relating to what I said,

You can imagine someone with high t4-t3 conversion, they will burn through energy fairly quickly. Higher energy turnover = lower blood sugar, it happens mate.

What if they have low blood pressure and their RAAS system can’t produce enough Angiotensin 2? Leading to drops in blood pressure for someone to pass out because they aren’t in taking electrolytes? How will you know what the person prescribed a 36 hour fast will react blindly?

Going from a carbohydrate energy based body to then ketones is again a stressful situation on the body and can make someone feel lethargic and potentially sick, moody and unable to function. How is this productive?

You say fasting fixes many issues, it doesn’t fix issues long term mate, you need a solid plan of nutrition, micro nutrient intake and supplementation to fix this. Not temporary fasting.

@LevButlerov outside of me arguing/debating my point (apologies if it comes across rude, I’m just objective) I’m so open to learning. I love learning, however there are things I agree and disagree with, I will have biases, we all do. When it comes to my clients @Smiley G, she needs a sustainable approach. And because this is related to my client, I’m going to heavily argue against the advice that was given of course to protect my client. Hope you understand that.

 

[LevButlerov]

with all due respect- hypoglycaemia can happen with anyone at any point, you have no idea what your prescribing to random people without medical history present. It would be irresponsible to tell someone go fast for 36 hours, it’s uncomfortable and it’s stressful. You have people working jobs and moving around. Sure in theory - with the studies you have shown here it works. But with all due respect @LevButlerov before you come through guns blazing, this is related to anecdote and individual response. If your aren’t working with a client, you shouldn’t suggest something that can potentially stress out a person looking for advice. That’s my argument, all of these studies are well good. But you have no idea what type of reaction that person will have. Imagine someone then saying, that bloke lev told me to fast and now I’m having a full hypoglycaemic episode and a panic attack… think about it bro. You have clients right? You’re not going to tell someone jump on 500mg test straight off the bat without prior history? Even worse fasting complicates things further.

As you know I have strong opinions, and this is a terrible idea, you can combat inflammation by fixing other modalities, not going to the extreme for 36 hrs and then getting someone to potentially reverse themselves into a worse place, as it may cause psychological harm or even worse can bring trauma in some individuals. Silly.

So relating to what I said,

You can imagine someone with high t4-t3 conversion, they will burn through energy fairly quickly. Higher energy turnover = lower blood sugar, it happens mate.

What if they have low blood pressure and their RAAS system can’t produce enough Angiotensin 2? Leading to drops in blood pressure for someone to pass out because they aren’t in taking electrolytes? How will you know what the person prescribed a 36 hour fast will react blindly?

Going from a carbohydrate energy based body to then ketones is again a stressful situation on the body and can make someone feel lethargic and potentially sick, moody and unable to function. How is this productive?

You say fasting fixes many issues, it doesn’t fix issues long term mate, you need a solid plan of nutrition, micro nutrient intake and supplementation to fix this. Not temporary fasting.

@LevButlerov outside of me arguing/debating my point (apologies if it comes across rude, I’m just objective) I’m so open to learning. I love learning, however there are things I agree and disagree with, I will have biases, we all do. When it comes to my clients @Smiley G, she needs a sustainable approach. And because this is related to my client, I’m going to heavily argue against the advice that was given of course to protect my client. Hope you understand that.

I think we can go back and forth on this more @AE1079, but it would go offtopic on the log and will be disrespectful to your relationship with your client @Smiley G . I will start a new thread in time where we can circle back to this and discuss fasting for health.

 

[AE1079]

I think we can go back and forth on this more @AE1079, but it would go offtopic on the log and will be disrespectful to your relationship with your client @Smiley G . I will start a new thread in time where we can circle back to this and discuss fasting for health.

It’s like I said, biases which is fine. That’s what makes EVO diverse but I just think more care should be taken when suggesting something like this

 

[LevButlerov]

It’s like I said, biases which is fine. That’s what makes EVO diverse but I just think more care should be taken when suggesting something like this

@AE1079 Oh I completely disagree with you on fasting and your thoughts on it, but like I said out of respect for your client/coach relationship I will start a new thread where we can discuss this properly.

And I did check her situation, I followed @Smiley G when she was an athlete for another company, and I follow this log as well closely. In my view, she's a prime fasting candidate, but this is for another conversation.

 

[Smiley G]

@AE1079 Oh I completely disagree with you on fasting and your thoughts on it, but like I said out of respect for your client/coach relationship I will start a new thread where we can discuss this properly.

And I did check her situation, I followed @Smiley G when she was an athlete for another company, and I follow this log as well closely. In my view, she's a prime fasting candidate, but this is for another conversation.

Thank you for your suggestions mate, I love learning about new things, so I will check out the articles you’ve attached. I appreciate you taking the time to comment thank you

 

[LevButlerov]

Thank you for your suggestions mate, I love learning about new things, so I will check out the articles you’ve attached. I appreciate you taking the time to comment thank you

You should read the articles and study up on fasting sister @Smiley G but always follow your coach, he has your best interest in mind @AE1079

This conversation is just a back and forth between myself and AE for educational purposes, it shouldn't be taken as guidance for you.

 

[Smiley G]

You should read the articles and study up on fasting sister @Smiley G but always follow your coach, he has your best interest in mind @AE1079

This conversation is just a back and forth between myself and AE for educational purposes, it shouldn't be taken as guidance for you.

Of sure! Totally understand

 

[Pigsy]

It’s like I said, biases which is fine. That’s what makes EVO diverse but I just think more care should be taken when suggesting something like this

Couldn't agree more

 

[Smiley G]

Arm day

Preacher Curls cable with bar
7.5kg x 10
7.5kg x 10
7.5kg x 10

Incline Hammer Curls
5kg x 12
5kg x 12
5kg x 10.5 (the burn was real )

BB Curl 21's
Close Grip EZ Bar
10kg x 21
10kg x 21
10kg x 21

Tricep Pushdowns
10kg x 12
10kg x 12
10kg x 12
10kg x 12

Overhead Rope
Extensions
7.5kg x 15
7.5kg x 15
7.5kg x 15
7.5kg x 15

Cardio: Treadmill, alternating speed 4 for 1 minute and then speed 5 for 1 minute for 30mins

Gotta say I could hardly lift my arms after this session.

Feeling really good again the last couple days.! Woot woot!

I am finding that even tho I might have a day or 2 here and there where my fatigue & inflammation flares up, I come good much faster then usual, usually I could feel like that for a week… but now it’s only 1 or 2 days at the most.

I’m sure this is also down to the HGH? @Liquid Gold Labs @AE1079

Also my muscle soreness disappears much faster too.

Honestly if you’re not taking HGH I highly recommend getting on some! I’m so glad @Liquid Gold Labs recommended it to me, I didn’t know anything about it before, but it’s amazing stuff!
Not to mention the sleep benefits.

So all round, I’m feeling good, positive mindset, energy is up, I’m having great workout sessions,food is on point…

Thanks to my people @Liquid Gold Labs and my coach @AE1079 bloody legends looking after me, thank you guys.

Ps; I’m attaching a pic of my wee little shoulder Boulder that I’m growing,pretty proud of it I have to say haha.

 

[Seventieschild]

Arm day

Preacher Curls cable with bar
7.5kg x 10
7.5kg x 10
7.5kg x 10

Incline Hammer Curls
5kg x 12
5kg x 12
5kg x 10.5 (the burn was real )

BB Curl 21's
Close Grip EZ Bar
10kg x 21
10kg x 21
10kg x 21

Tricep Pushdowns
10kg x 12
10kg x 12
10kg x 12
10kg x 12

Overhead Rope
Extensions
7.5kg x 15
7.5kg x 15
7.5kg x 15
7.5kg x 15

Cardio: Treadmill, alternating speed 4 for 1 minute and then speed 5 for 1 minute for 30mins

Gotta say I could hardly lift my arms after this session.

Feeling really good again the last couple days.! Woot woot!

I am finding that even tho I might have a day or 2 here and there where my fatigue & inflammation flares up, I come good much faster then usual, usually I could feel like that for a week… but now it’s only 1 or 2 days at the most.

I’m sure this is also down to the HGH? @Liquid Gold Labs @AE1079

Also my muscle soreness disappears much faster too.

Honestly if you’re not taking HGH I highly recommend getting on some! I’m so glad @Liquid Gold Labs recommended it to me, I didn’t know anything about it before, but it’s amazing stuff!
Not to mention the sleep benefits.

So all round, I’m feeling good, positive mindset, energy is up, I’m having great workout sessions,food is on point…

Thanks to my people @Liquid Gold Labs and my coach @AE1079 bloody legends looking after me, thank you guys.

Ps; I’m attaching a pic of my wee little shoulder Boulder that I’m growing,pretty proud of it I have to say haha.

Nice work, you're going to recover faster and have more energy as time goes,this is all great progress,and I'm sure with your great coach you will beat the inflammation ,keep up the great work young lady..

 

[Smiley G]

Nice work, you're going to recover faster and have more energy as time goes,this is all great progress,and I'm sure with your great coach you will beat the inflammation ,keep up the great work young lady..

You had me with ‘young lady’ thanks bro! Appreciate your kind words,
More energy will just be amazing … I’m getting so much more done! I wish more women my age knew about this.

 

[Pigsy]

Arm day

Preacher Curls cable with bar
7.5kg x 10
7.5kg x 10
7.5kg x 10

Incline Hammer Curls
5kg x 12
5kg x 12
5kg x 10.5 (the burn was real )

BB Curl 21's
Close Grip EZ Bar
10kg x 21
10kg x 21
10kg x 21

Tricep Pushdowns
10kg x 12
10kg x 12
10kg x 12
10kg x 12

Overhead Rope
Extensions
7.5kg x 15
7.5kg x 15
7.5kg x 15
7.5kg x 15

Cardio: Treadmill, alternating speed 4 for 1 minute and then speed 5 for 1 minute for 30mins

Gotta say I could hardly lift my arms after this session.

Feeling really good again the last couple days.! Woot woot!

I am finding that even tho I might have a day or 2 here and there where my fatigue & inflammation flares up, I come good much faster then usual, usually I could feel like that for a week… but now it’s only 1 or 2 days at the most.

I’m sure this is also down to the HGH? @Liquid Gold Labs @AE1079

Also my muscle soreness disappears much faster too.

Honestly if you’re not taking HGH I highly recommend getting on some! I’m so glad @Liquid Gold Labs recommended it to me, I didn’t know anything about it before, but it’s amazing stuff!
Not to mention the sleep benefits.

So all round, I’m feeling good, positive mindset, energy is up, I’m having great workout sessions,food is on point…

Thanks to my people @Liquid Gold Labs and my coach @AE1079 bloody legends looking after me, thank you guys.

Ps; I’m attaching a pic of my wee little shoulder Boulder that I’m growing,pretty proud of it I have to say haha.

Delt lines coming through

 

[LevButlerov]

Arm day

Preacher Curls cable with bar
7.5kg x 10
7.5kg x 10
7.5kg x 10

Incline Hammer Curls
5kg x 12
5kg x 12
5kg x 10.5 (the burn was real )

BB Curl 21's
Close Grip EZ Bar
10kg x 21
10kg x 21
10kg x 21

Tricep Pushdowns
10kg x 12
10kg x 12
10kg x 12
10kg x 12

Overhead Rope
Extensions
7.5kg x 15
7.5kg x 15
7.5kg x 15
7.5kg x 15

Cardio: Treadmill, alternating speed 4 for 1 minute and then speed 5 for 1 minute for 30mins

Gotta say I could hardly lift my arms after this session.

Feeling really good again the last couple days.! Woot woot!

I am finding that even tho I might have a day or 2 here and there where my fatigue & inflammation flares up, I come good much faster then usual, usually I could feel like that for a week… but now it’s only 1 or 2 days at the most.

I’m sure this is also down to the HGH? @Liquid Gold Labs @AE1079

Also my muscle soreness disappears much faster too.

Honestly if you’re not taking HGH I highly recommend getting on some! I’m so glad @Liquid Gold Labs recommended it to me, I didn’t know anything about it before, but it’s amazing stuff!
Not to mention the sleep benefits.

So all round, I’m feeling good, positive mindset, energy is up, I’m having great workout sessions,food is on point…

Thanks to my people @Liquid Gold Labs and my coach @AE1079 bloody legends looking after me, thank you guys.

Ps; I’m attaching a pic of my wee little shoulder Boulder that I’m growing,pretty proud of it I have to say haha.

Delts looking good, you building day by day, very nice results. @Smiley G

 

[Seventieschild]

You had me with ‘young lady’ thanks bro! Appreciate your kind words,
More energy will just be amazing … I’m getting so much more done! I wish more women my age knew about this.

Well trt and gh is like turning back the clock ,so.you are getting younger.

 

[RoidRageWife]

Arm day

Preacher Curls cable with bar
7.5kg x 10
7.5kg x 10
7.5kg x 10

Incline Hammer Curls
5kg x 12
5kg x 12
5kg x 10.5 (the burn was real )

BB Curl 21's
Close Grip EZ Bar
10kg x 21
10kg x 21
10kg x 21

Tricep Pushdowns
10kg x 12
10kg x 12
10kg x 12
10kg x 12

Overhead Rope
Extensions
7.5kg x 15
7.5kg x 15
7.5kg x 15
7.5kg x 15

Cardio: Treadmill, alternating speed 4 for 1 minute and then speed 5 for 1 minute for 30mins

Gotta say I could hardly lift my arms after this session.

Feeling really good again the last couple days.! Woot woot!

I am finding that even tho I might have a day or 2 here and there where my fatigue & inflammation flares up, I come good much faster then usual, usually I could feel like that for a week… but now it’s only 1 or 2 days at the most.

I’m sure this is also down to the HGH? @Liquid Gold Labs @AE1079

Also my muscle soreness disappears much faster too.

Honestly if you’re not taking HGH I highly recommend getting on some! I’m so glad @Liquid Gold Labs recommended it to me, I didn’t know anything about it before, but it’s amazing stuff!
Not to mention the sleep benefits.

So all round, I’m feeling good, positive mindset, energy is up, I’m having great workout sessions,food is on point…

Thanks to my people @Liquid Gold Labs and my coach @AE1079 bloody legends looking after me, thank you guys.

Ps; I’m attaching a pic of my wee little shoulder Boulder that I’m growing,pretty proud of it I have to say haha.

Nice Post @Smiley G good job! Keep up the routine! Proud of you sister!

 

[Smiley G]

Check in

Fasted Weight 67.6kg
Height 5’7
Age 48



It’s been 2.5 weeks on my new training program and macros from my coach.

I’m really enjoying this new training program, I was a little worried at first, that it might be too much for me, but my coach @AE1079 has nailed it and I’m finding it fantastic and very sustainable.
I did worry that my body wouldn’t respond as it should, but @AE1079 knows his stuff! And his wizardry has me losing fat and building muscle already Which is just blowing my mind

Had a few issues with health… a heavy period which set off a nasty migraine which knocked me for a few days, but got through it ok and still had an awesome check in despite not getting all my steps in.
Sleeping well with the GH & energy is pretty good, some days better then others but that’s normal I’m sure.
I found some older pics to compare to now, so will posts those below.
And some food prep pics I always do up a massive batch of sweet potato in the air fryer ready for the week. Along with rice and chicken etc.

I’m noticing the changes in my body, I will catch a glimpse of myself passing a mirror and have to take a second look at my arms or legs, as I can notice subtle changes in the shape etc, it’s very motivating!

All in all really happy with my first few weeks and just keeping on keeping on. Grateful for my amazing supps from @Liquid Gold Labs

Thanks for reading see you all again soon