Hybrid Scam now rebranded to Raptor Labs

[Anabolik_chikin]

A few things. This guy isn’t completely off his rocker making a connection.

You all seen his vials? They look pretty identical to hybrid.

Secondly it makes sense after all this seizures they would rebrand.

And Third anabolik chikin is defending Raptor hard and everyone knows he worked for hybrid.

But honestly none of that js PROOF and I couldn’t give a fuck who’s who. Raptor seems like a really nice bloke.

Did hybrid scam? What’s a scam exactly? One or two not getting an order for various reason or a deliberate sophisticated attempt to rip people off for a period of time like Austeroids etc.

If you didn’t get an order SAY you didn’t get an order and have evidence don’t write SCAM everywhere

The Aussie section is pretty fucked up. Seems like 80% of scam warnings are just from people trying to fuck over a lab.

Yup I defend good people, just like 20 other dudes on this thread are. That means nothing. Raptor are my friends

Raptor were already established before hybrid had his issues, that’s not how rebrands work

As AJ dirt said, printers can be purchased easily. BBL, wildcat, silverback etc all used the same thing.

He’s completely off his rocker and this whole thing is put to bed

 

[Eveflorence]

I don't understand how threads such as these are allowed to stay open this long. Some bloke makes an outrageous claim backed by no proof whatsoever, which everyone knows is a lie, then he disappears. Can it be locked?

 

[UGL OZ]

I don't understand how threads such as these are allowed to stay open this long. Some bloke makes an outrageous claim backed by no proof whatsoever, which everyone knows is a lie, then he disappears. Can it be locked?

agreed brother!

@Eddie Haskell @LevButlerov @Pigsy is it possible to have this thread locked? it's been confirmed by multiple members of the mod team that these claims were frivolous. any further discussion at this point is not contributing anything of value.

AJ

 

[Eddie Haskell]

agreed brother!

@Eddie Haskell @LevButlerov @Pigsy is it possible to have this thread locked? it's been confirmed by multiple members of the mod team that these claims were frivolous. any further discussion at this point is not contributing anything of value.

AJ

We are reviewing the situation based on your request @UGL OZ

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Community Notes for this thread:

G'day everyone. Not too big on boards would just order my stuff and get on with life. I know alot of people here were big on hybrid. I did a big order with hybrid in november and haven't got anything up to now. Kept trying to make contact and he said he would get it altogether so I gave him the benefit of the doubt.

Now Feb 2025 and more than 4k down and nothing coming. I admit I should've figured it was a scam but what can you do hey. I just want to warn you guys that he's now rebrand to raptor labs over here and on the "underground talk" board. Who knows where else. Just stay safe out there ty. I expect I won't get a warm reception but its worth posting this to help 1 person not to fall for a scam. The scam is 10000% selective and you wont know its real until it happens to you on a big or even small order...

OP @stanna made a claim that raptor is the same source as hybrid.

The claim was supported by other views by other members:
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-rebranded-to-raptor-labs.103239/post-1694529

A few things. This guy isn’t completely off his rocker making a connection.

You all seen his vials? They look pretty identical to hybrid.

Secondly it makes sense after all this seizures they would rebrand.

And Third anabolik chikin is defending Raptor hard and everyone knows he worked for hybrid.

But honestly none of that js PROOF and I couldn’t give a fuck who’s who. Raptor seems like a really nice bloke.

Did hybrid scam? What’s a scam exactly? One or two not getting an order for various reason or a deliberate sophisticated attempt to rip people off for a period of time like Austeroids etc.

If you didn’t get an order SAY you didn’t get an order and have evidence don’t write SCAM everywhere

The Aussie section is pretty fucked up. Seems like 80% of scam warnings are just from people trying to fuck over a lab.

It was explained by @UGL OZ what actually happened:
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-rebranded-to-raptor-labs.103239/post-1694540

there's multiple Aussie labs that rock those transparent labels. they're quick and easy to make and eliminate the need of a third-party printer. lots of labs launch with those and then transition to the fancy holographic and reflective foils. others choose to keep them. there's no connection there.

- Hybrid sent packs.
- packs got seized.
- Hybrid took a short break.
- Raptor (under no obligation and entirely of his own free will) offered to resend packs on Hybrid's behalf.

the only connection here is that Raptor offered to help another Aussie lab and their customers. it was a good deed, yet troll accounts like @stanna and @dino are posting trash to try villainise them for it. you're right: @Raptor Labs is a good bloke. people are just quick to find fault in anything, even in the good.

there's no foul play here.

AJ

- Hybrid sent packs.
- packs got seized.
- Hybrid took a short break.
- Raptor (under no obligation and entirely of his own free will) offered to resend packs on Hybrid's behalf.

However, we would like to add moderator notes (based on our analysis of the situation):
Hybrid labs was a vendor on EVO for many years. He had 2 big issues and problems that are well known to the community.
1) was the seizure we are aware of, a ton of packages sized and he was asking others to reship. This is the above issue @ugloz referred to.
after this event, he came back
2) After coming back, recently in the past 30 days Hybrid had another legal issue, again someone there was arrested and/or raided. Again he went MIA and he was suspended for it:
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...aus-domestic-announcements.96487/post-1680261

@HybridLabs @Hybrid Labs Rep have been suspended until further notice. Due to multiple unfulfilled orders and unresolved issues.

We suggest staying away from hybrid at this point.

3) "HE", and I use " quotes " as we dont know who he is or if its him, in about 2 weeks after #2 (he went MIA) and sent a DM to me (with an alter) and other mods saying he had serious legal troubles.
We told him, quit while you're ahead. And I will actually quote my DM to him in the open here:

Sorry to hear about your situation.[REDACTED]

I will make a suggestion to you. Please consider it.
It sounds like it’s time for you to retire.
Even the great boxers know when to quit, and the ones that don’t end up with brain damage.

For your own long term wellbeing being. [REDACTED]

@Pigsy @LevButlerov check please.

Last thoughts
Further, I think its very dangerous for the community to keep supporting a vendor with so many legal problems. Actual open legal problems that are clear and in the light, not hidden somewhere and guessed by someone.
This is serious, and EVO Aussie family safety should be taken into account by all members of our community. It's foolhardy for him to keep sourcing after what happened, and its even more foolhardy for someone or ANYONE to do business or communicate with him.
Hybrid I know you're reading this, please take my original suggestion and retire!

 

[UGL OZ]

Community Notes for this thread:


OP @stanna made a claim that raptor is the same source as hybrid.

The claim was supported by other views by other members:
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-rebranded-to-raptor-labs.103239/post-1694529

It was explained by @UGL OZ what actually happened:
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-rebranded-to-raptor-labs.103239/post-1694540



However, we would like to add moderator notes (based on our analysis of the situation):
Hybrid labs was a vendor on EVO for many years. He had 2 big issues and problems that are well known to the community.
1) was the seizure we are aware of, a ton of packages sized and he was asking others to reship. This is the above issue @ugloz referred to.
after this event, he came back
2) After coming back, recently in the past 30 days Hybrid had another legal issue, again someone there was arrested and/or raided. Again he went MIA and he was suspended for it:
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...aus-domestic-announcements.96487/post-1680261

3) "HE", and I use " quotes " as we dont know who he is or if its him, in about 2 weeks after #2 (he went MIA) and sent a DM to me (with an alter) and other mods saying he had serious legal troubles.
We told him, quit while you're ahead. And I will actually quote my DM to him in the open here:


@Pigsy @LevButlerov check please.

Last thoughts
Further, I think its very dangerous for the community to keep supporting a vendor with so many legal problems. Actual open legal problems that are clear and in the light, not hidden somewhere and guessed by someone.
This is serious, and EVO Aussie family safety should be taken into account by all members of our community. It's foolhardy for him to keep sourcing after what happened, and its even more foolhardy for someone or ANYONE to do business or communicate with him.
Hybrid I know you're reading this, please take my original suggestion and retire!

@Eddie Haskell i understand your request for a mod review (and have no place commenting in that capacity and i'm not looking to overstep any boundaries) - but I would like to offer a different perspective that i think articulates the sentiment of the posters in this thread. it is true that Hybrid has faced significant challenges (no one is denying that) however this thread seems to have been primarily established to discredit @Raptor Labs through entirely unsubstantiated claims, which could potentially damage the reputation of a highly respected member of both this board and the EVO family.

@Raptor Labs has earned the title of V.I.P. through consistent delivery of top-tier service and products to our community and he demonstrated this very commitment by offering to reship parcels on Hybrid's behalf - assisting both a competing vendor and this community when they needed it most.

yet we now find ourselves engaged in lengthy debates that are filled with posts from new accounts attempting to tarnish his reputation for simply doing a good deed. we all acknowledge that Hybrid has encountered issues, but the focus here is solely on defending @Raptor Labs against the falsehoods. one look at this post should give you all the insight you need into the motivations of these people posting.

AJ

 

[Eddie Haskell]

@Eddie Haskell i understand your request for a mod review (and have no place commenting in that capacity and i'm not looking to overstep any boundaries) - but I would like to offer a different perspective that i think articulates the sentiment of the posters in this thread. it is true that Hybrid has faced significant challenges (no one is denying that) however this thread seems to have been primarily established to discredit @Raptor Labs through entirely unsubstantiated claims, which could potentially damage the reputation of a highly respected member of both this board and the EVO family.

@Raptor Labs has earned the title of V.I.P. through consistent delivery of top-tier service and products to our community and he demonstrated this very commitment by offering to reship parcels on Hybrid's behalf - assisting both a competing vendor and this community when they needed it most.

yet we now find ourselves engaged in lengthy debates that are filled with posts from new accounts attempting to tarnish his reputation for simply doing a good deed. we all acknowledge that Hybrid has encountered issues, but the focus here is solely on defending @Raptor Labs against the falsehoods. one look at this post should give you all the insight you need into the motivations of these people posting.

AJ

@UGL OZ yes @Pigsy told me the same thing. I agreed and so does management.

Community notes update:
Raptor labs is NOT Hybrid labs based on community feedback in this thread.

 

[Pigsy]

@UGL OZ yes @Pigsy told me the same thing. I agreed and so does management.

Community notes update:
Raptor labs is NOT Hybrid labs based on community feedback in this thread.

This should settle this once and for all

 

[Yuri]

@Eddie Haskell i understand your request for a mod review (and have no place commenting in that capacity and i'm not looking to overstep any boundaries) - but I would like to offer a different perspective that i think articulates the sentiment of the posters in this thread. it is true that Hybrid has faced significant challenges (no one is denying that) however this thread seems to have been primarily established to discredit @Raptor Labs through entirely unsubstantiated claims, which could potentially damage the reputation of a highly respected member of both this board and the EVO family.

@Raptor Labs has earned the title of V.I.P. through consistent delivery of top-tier service and products to our community and he demonstrated this very commitment by offering to reship parcels on Hybrid's behalf - assisting both a competing vendor and this community when they needed it most.

yet we now find ourselves engaged in lengthy debates that are filled with posts from new accounts attempting to tarnish his reputation for simply doing a good deed. we all acknowledge that Hybrid has encountered issues, but the focus here is solely on defending @Raptor Labs against the falsehoods. one look at this post should give you all the insight you need into the motivations of these people posting.

AJ

Better articulated then any of us could have stayed AJ

 

[Anabolik_chikin]

Community Notes for this thread:


OP @stanna made a claim that raptor is the same source as hybrid.

The claim was supported by other views by other members:
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-rebranded-to-raptor-labs.103239/post-1694529

It was explained by @UGL OZ what actually happened:
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-rebranded-to-raptor-labs.103239/post-1694540



However, we would like to add moderator notes (based on our analysis of the situation):
Hybrid labs was a vendor on EVO for many years. He had 2 big issues and problems that are well known to the community.
1) was the seizure we are aware of, a ton of packages sized and he was asking others to reship. This is the above issue @ugloz referred to.
after this event, he came back
2) After coming back, recently in the past 30 days Hybrid had another legal issue, again someone there was arrested and/or raided. Again he went MIA and he was suspended for it:
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...aus-domestic-announcements.96487/post-1680261

3) "HE", and I use " quotes " as we dont know who he is or if its him, in about 2 weeks after #2 (he went MIA) and sent a DM to me (with an alter) and other mods saying he had serious legal troubles.
We told him, quit while you're ahead. And I will actually quote my DM to him in the open here:


@Pigsy @LevButlerov check please.

Last thoughts
Further, I think its very dangerous for the community to keep supporting a vendor with so many legal problems. Actual open legal problems that are clear and in the light, not hidden somewhere and guessed by someone.
This is serious, and EVO Aussie family safety should be taken into account by all members of our community. It's foolhardy for him to keep sourcing after what happened, and its even more foolhardy for someone or ANYONE to do business or communicate with him.
Hybrid I know you're reading this, please take my original suggestion and retire!

His shipper was raided, but no charges laid. I believe he moved operation to a different state all together.
The two situations were really one situation. The shipper fucked up and was raided because of his mistakes. Hybrid himself has no legal issues and has since moved.

Irrelevant to the raptor situation but just wanted to make that clear

 

[Eddie Haskell]

His shipper was raided, but no charges laid. I believe he moved operation to a different state all together.
The two situations were really one situation. The shipper fucked up and was raided because of his mistakes. Hybrid himself has no legal issues and has since moved.

Irrelevant to the raptor situation but just wanted to make that clear

I rather not share the info we have in private. It might be too damaging for him.

Needless to say, I stand by what I said about hybrid.

Last thoughts
Further, I think its very dangerous for the community to keep supporting a vendor with so many legal problems. Actual open legal problems that are clear and in the light, not hidden somewhere and guessed by someone.
This is serious, and EVO Aussie family safety should be taken into account by all members of our community. It's foolhardy for him to keep sourcing after what happened, and its even more foolhardy for someone or ANYONE to do business or communicate with him.
Hybrid I know you're reading this, please take my original suggestion and retire!

Further this thread has a closer now

Community notes update:
Raptor labs is NOT Hybrid labs based on community feedback in this thread.

Locked!