I need answers

[Dn123]

Hi. Im Dndndn and this is my new account. I forgot the password from the old account, tried to restore it, but didnt happen... i dont know why.

Would you answer my questions? Please, only experienced people to answer.

1. Does pro body builders have sleep apnea? Does big muscles of neck cause it?
2. Are all retired pro bosybuilders on TRT?
3. Does anabolic steroids cause prostate cancer or prostate growth?
4. If i do some heavy steroid cycle, will i be able to restore my natural testosterone production?
5. If i become pro bodybuilder, how much money i will earn per month?
6. During steroid cycle, can bodybuilders do sex?
7. Does anabolic steroids cause painful erections?
8. What is the feeling to be on steroids?
9. Does big muscles make your heart beating faster?
10. Does injectionable steroids have bad effects on the health? I know injectables are toxic, but much less toxic than orals. Orals are toxic, but much less than daily alchohol consumption - so the injectables should not give bad effects, right?
11. What tests i have to do, before using anabolic steroids?
12. Can something go wrong? If yes - what?
13. What exactly cause heart overgrown? I think so - when you get very big muscles, the heart grows and grows, to supply all the muscle... the bigger muscles are the reason for overgrown heart, not steroids by themselves, am i right?
14. If i go on TRT what doctors will i need to visit during the treatment?
15. If i once get on gear, when i stop it, will my testosterone be the same as the testosterone before starting gear?
16. Does injections are bad for kidneys?
17. How many of you have sleep apnea?
18. Can HGH go wrong / fatal? I know using HGH will supress my natural HGH, but this is not big problem because HGH can be easily replaced.
19. Once i start steroids, how long does it takes my balls to shrink?
20. Does steroids stunt facial development, or steroids stunt only long bones growth?
21. I think HGH is safest peptide hormone for muscle growth, am i right?
22. I think HGH will make my nose bigger, my chin longer than the face, am i right?
23. Is it good to froze sperm before going on gear? I think kids from frozen sperm have short life span and weak immune system, am i right?
24. Does steroids cause vision problems?
25. If i get impotent, will TRT cure it? Or cant i just use strapon, instead of my real penis?
26. Is TRT for life or only for a few months, until your natural testosterone is bring back? Different people are telling me different things - some people are telling me TRT is for life, other people are telling me TRT is not for life.
27. Is it true steroids cause blood in semen?
28. Will 500mg of test E cause high blood pressure?
29. At what doses HGH will make my gut big?
30. What cause heart attack? Steroids by themselve, or the high cholesterol caused by steroids? If the heart attack is caused by high cholesterol, cant i just control my colesterol?

Questions to the moderators:

When you used steroids for non-medical purpose, did you have difficult breathing during sleep? Omg... Is it even true steroids cause sleep apnea? People told me steroids will cause sleep apnea, because of the bigger neck muscles and bla bla... Is it true? Mods, could you explain me everything about your life when you used steroids - what did you feel, how was your health etc... Pls, pls its very important for me to be educated.

Yes, i know you hate me for no reason... But i returned here, because people from forums dot steroid dot com dont want to answer my questions.

Dont be mad at me... Once you hear my story, you will cry - 100% guaranteed.
Im starting to think about suicide and self-hurting... This is happening because nobody wants to help me. Ignoring is not good idea too.

I contacted some pro bodybuilders, but even they dont want to help me..
Pls, answer me, educate me...

 

[muskate]

Most of your questions are answered in the free articles on this very website. Spend some time on evolutionary.org and listen to the EVO Podcast -> https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/

 

[RoySimpson]

You can find so much information evolutionary.org I would start reading articles asap!

 

[Mobster]

You didn't forget your password - you were banned.

 

[florencenoir]

You didn't forget your password - you were banned.

I wonder why? [emoji848]

 

[Mobster]

I wonder why? [emoji848]

Indeed. 16 years old IIRC

 

[E32038]

Hi. Im Dndndn and this is my new account. I forgot the password from the old account, tried to restore it, but didnt happen... i dont know why. [emoji83]

Would you answer my questions? Please, only experienced people to answer.

1. Does pro body builders have sleep apnea? Does big muscles of neck cause it?
2. Are all retired pro bosybuilders on TRT?
3. Does anabolic steroids cause prostate cancer or prostate growth?
4. If i do some heavy steroid cycle, will i be able to restore my natural testosterone production?
5. If i become pro bodybuilder, how much money i will earn per month?
6. During steroid cycle, can bodybuilders do sex?
7. Does anabolic steroids cause painful erections?
8. What is the feeling to be on steroids?
9. Does big muscles make your heart beating faster?
10. Does injectionable steroids have bad effects on the health? I know injectables are toxic, but much less toxic than orals. Orals are toxic, but much less than daily alchohol consumption - so the injectables should not give bad effects, right?
11. What tests i have to do, before using anabolic steroids?
12. Can something go wrong? If yes - what?
13. What exactly cause heart overgrown? I think so - when you get very big muscles, the heart grows and grows, to supply all the muscle... the bigger muscles are the reason for overgrown heart, not steroids by themselves, am i right?
14. If i go on TRT what doctors will i need to visit during the treatment?
15. If i once get on gear, when i stop it, will my testosterone be the same as the testosterone before starting gear?
16. Does injections are bad for kidneys?
17. How many of you have sleep apnea?
18. Can HGH go wrong / fatal? I know using HGH will supress my natural HGH, but this is not big problem because HGH can be easily replaced.
19. Once i start steroids, how long does it takes my balls to shrink?
20. Does steroids stunt facial development, or steroids stunt only long bones growth?
21. I think HGH is safest peptide hormone for muscle growth, am i right?
22. I think HGH will make my nose bigger, my chin longer than the face, am i right?
23. Is it good to froze sperm before going on gear? I think kids from frozen sperm have short life span and weak immune system, am i right?
24. Does steroids cause vision problems?
25. If i get impotent, will TRT cure it? Or cant i just use strapon, instead of my real penis?
26. Is TRT for life or only for a few months, until your natural testosterone is bring back? Different people are telling me different things - some people are telling me TRT is for life, other people are telling me TRT is not for life.
27. Is it true steroids cause blood in semen?
28. Will 500mg of test E cause high blood pressure?
29. At what doses HGH will make my gut big?
30. What cause heart attack? Steroids by themselve, or the high cholesterol caused by steroids? If the heart attack is caused by high cholesterol, cant i just control my colesterol?

Questions to the moderators:

When you used steroids for non-medical purpose, did you have difficult breathing during sleep? Omg... Is it even true steroids cause sleep apnea? People told me steroids will cause sleep apnea, because of the bigger neck muscles and bla bla... Is it true? Mods, could you explain me everything about your life when you used steroids - what did you feel, how was your health etc... Pls, pls its very important for me to be educated.

Yes, i know you hate me for no reason... But i returned here, because people from forums dot steroid dot com dont want to answer my questions.

Dont be mad at me... Once you hear my story, you will cry - 100% guaranteed.
Im starting to think about suicide and self-hurting... This is happening because nobody wants to help me. Ignoring is not good idea too.

I contacted some pro bodybuilders, but even they dont want to help me..
Pls, answer me, educate me...

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If what you say is true, you need professional mental help. Please go get that. Wait another 10 years, then come back.

 

[Dn123]

You can find so much information evolutionary.org I would start reading articles asap!

I have already read some articles. Actually, i prefer to have discussion between me and real person.

Most of your questions are answered in the free articles on this very website. Spend some time on evolutionary.org and listen to the EVO Podcast -> https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/

muskate, how i can trust articles, after all articles on Internet are telling me different things? This is why i want to hear answers from people, who have used steroids, and have personal experience. I prefer to talk to people who have personal experience, instead of reading acricles from Google. Everyone can read articles - some articles says steroids are good, other articles says steroids are bad. Yes, i know steroids are bad, but its fact every article says different things. Also, English is not my native language. I can only speak, but i cant understand what other people answers, unless there are subtitles.

I already guess i know the answers of most of my questions, i just want my knowledge to be confirmed - this is why im asking.

Indeed. 16 years old IIRC

Mr. Mobster, why you did it? You are free to guess everything you want, but you are not free to do everything you want. The fact you guess im 16 years old, doesnt mean im 16 years old. Who told you im 16 years old? Plus, i didnt break any of the rules.

Ok, now i have questions to you. Do you remember when you told me two of the moderators are on TRT for life? You also told me, that they are on TRT because they used steroids at the age of 18, which is "way too early", according to you. My question is why these two boys had the rights to make their own decision? Do you realize what is happening now? From realistic view point, you are stealing my rights... Now you will say "I dont steal your right, im just trying to save you." ok, i know it and i appreciate it... but you are acting as a kid, and we chewing the same topic again and again.

I know you are good person and you are trying to give me best advice, but you must realize that everyone is free to make decision. My decision is to use steroids now at age 18 - this will not hurt other people, right?

You think that i think when i start taking steroids, i will gain muscles, for less than 1 month i will become the biggest, and steroids are just magic pills and i dont need to train hard - i need only to take steroids, and eat pizza, and playing video games and the muscles will become bigger thanks to the magic pills (steroids), right? No, you are absolutely wrong! I dont think that way. And i know later in my life i will want to back in time and dont use steroids. I know steroids will put permament damage on my body, but this is my choice. You should respect my choice.

In a topic from Dndndn (my first account, that was banned for no reason), the two moderators told me they did mistake when they used steroids. They also told me im on the same way to make the same mistake... The two moderators did mistake, because they were not educated about steroid. They thought everything will be fine. And dont you remember what i told them? I told them i will not make mistake, because i already know what will hapen. Mistake is when you start doing thing, but you dont know how the things will go - and the things go wrong. This is mistake.

As i already said, im enoigh old to make my life choices and you should respect them.

Why you dont want to help me? Because you want me to have kids one day? Having kids is pointless, they will die one day too, right? Well, if i freze a few loads of sperm, then will you help me? When sperm is frozen, even if i cut off my balls, i will be still able to have kids, right?

I asked some easy questions, and now you think im stupid, right? As i said earlier, i already guess the answers of my questions - i just want my knowledge to be confirmed by experienced people.
For example, look at my question number 11 - 11. What tests i have to do, before using anabolic steroids?. I guess i should do tests of my heart, kidney, prostate, liver, red blood cells etc. And during cycle, i should watch my cholesterol, if i want to avoid pissible heart attack, am i right? As i already told you, i only guess. Experienced people have to tell me if im right or no, then i will know the answer, not guess it. Can you understand what i mean?

Also, the age actually doesnt matter at all. It depends how how the cycle is - too long cycle will shut down your ednocrine system, no matter at what age you are.

I want you just to realize im smarter than you think and i can make choices.

The easiest way for me is just to go ons steroids, but i will not do it because i know how dangerous steroids can be - this is why firatly i want to be educated before go on steroids.

I wanted to tell you more things, but i forgot them. Maybe later.

Now, could you explain me in DETAILS why actually you dont want to help me? Tell me what do you feel about me... You fell me as your own kid or what? Explain me, dont be afraid from your emotions, i will understand you. ✌✌✌✌✌

Dont be mad at me. If you cant understand something in my post, i will try to explain it better. Just dont ignore me, please.

 

[Dn123]

If what you say is true, you need professional mental help. Please go get that. Wait another 10 years, then come back.

Im enough smart to perform self-healing. Also, depression wavea on me lasts no more than 20-30 minutes.

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wavea = waves*

Where my big post disappeared?

 

[Dn123]

Sorry for the spam, but i forgot to tell something to the guy who claims i need professional help.

Man, my depression comes from the fact that i want to achieve something, but at the same time nobody can understand me and help me, you understand? Do you even know how it feels to be alone and nobody to understand you? Im enough strong to still live with the hope one day i will achieve it... But in the same time im watching how the clock works and i realize i have less and less time...

 

[E32038]

How old are you, kid?

 

[Mobster]

How old are you, kid?

From his other banned account: And my age is 18, almost 19

 

[Mobster]

I have already read some articles. Actually, i prefer to have discussion between me and real person.



muskate, how i can trust articles, after all articles on Internet are telling me different things? This is why i want to hear answers from people, who have used steroids, and have personal experience. I prefer to talk to people who have personal experience, instead of reading acricles from Google. Everyone can read articles - some articles says steroids are good, other articles says steroids are bad. Yes, i know steroids are bad, but its fact every article says different things. Also, English is not my native language. I can only speak, but i cant understand what other people answers, unless there are subtitles.

I already guess i know the answers of most of my questions, i just want my knowledge to be confirmed - this is why im asking.


Mr. Mobster, why you did it? You are free to guess everything you want, but you are not free to do everything you want. The fact you guess im 16 years old, doesnt mean im 16 years old. Who told you im 16 years old? Plus, i didnt break any of the rules.

Ok, now i have questions to you. Do you remember when you told me two of the moderators are on TRT for life? You also told me, that they are on TRT because they used steroids at the age of 18, which is "way too early", according to you. My question is why these two boys had the rights to make their own decision? Do you realize what is happening now? From realistic view point, you are stealing my rights... Now you will say "I dont steal your right, im just trying to save you." ok, i know it and i appreciate it... but you are acting as a kid, and we chewing the same topic again and again.

I know you are good person and you are trying to give me best advice, but you must realize that everyone is free to make decision. My decision is to use steroids now at age 18 - this will not hurt other people, right?

You think that i think when i start taking steroids, i will gain muscles, for less than 1 month i will become the biggest, and steroids are just magic pills and i dont need to train hard - i need only to take steroids, and eat pizza, and playing video games and the muscles will become bigger thanks to the magic pills (steroids), right? No, you are absolutely wrong! I dont think that way. And i know later in my life i will want to back in time and dont use steroids. I know steroids will put permament damage on my body, but this is my choice. You should respect my choice.

In a topic from Dndndn (my first account, that was banned for no reason), the two moderators told me they did mistake when they used steroids. They also told me im on the same way to make the same mistake... The two moderators did mistake, because they were not educated about steroid. They thought everything will be fine. And dont you remember what i told them? I told them i will not make mistake, because i already know what will hapen. Mistake is when you start doing thing, but you dont know how the things will go - and the things go wrong. This is mistake.

As i already said, im enoigh old to make my life choices and you should respect them.

Why you dont want to help me? Because you want me to have kids one day? Having kids is pointless, they will die one day too, right? Well, if i freze a few loads of sperm, then will you help me? When sperm is frozen, even if i cut off my balls, i will be still able to have kids, right?

I asked some easy questions, and now you think im stupid, right? As i said earlier, i already guess the answers of my questions - i just want my knowledge to be confirmed by experienced people.
For example, look at my question number 11 - 11. What tests i have to do, before using anabolic steroids?. I guess i should do tests of my heart, kidney, prostate, liver, red blood cells etc. And during cycle, i should watch my cholesterol, if i want to avoid pissible heart attack, am i right? As i already told you, i only guess. Experienced people have to tell me if im right or no, then i will know the answer, not guess it. Can you understand what i mean?

Also, the age actually doesnt matter at all. It depends how how the cycle is - too long cycle will shut down your ednocrine system, no matter at what age you are.

I want you just to realize im smarter than you think and i can make choices.

The easiest way for me is just to go ons steroids, but i will not do it because i know how dangerous steroids can be - this is why firatly i want to be educated before go on steroids.

I wanted to tell you more things, but i forgot them. Maybe later.

Now, could you explain me in DETAILS why actually you dont want to help me? Tell me what do you feel about me... You fell me as your own kid or what? Explain me, dont be afraid from your emotions, i will understand you. ✌✌✌✌✌

Dont be mad at me. If you cant understand something in my post, i will try to explain it better. Just dont ignore me, please.

Before you're banned again there are questions you need to ask yourself. I'll number them just like you have:
1) You asked a LOT of questions previously and anytime the answer didn't work for you you asked again. More so the 'you're too young' replies
2) You complain another forum didn't wanna answer your questions either so, having been banned, decided the logical thing to do was create a new account then ask 30 questions. Not one or two or three but 30. Now we work for free on the forum and don't have all day to go through 30 questions for zero payment. We've limited time with families and day jobs as well as other members to help.
3) Never think 'I've been banned once it'll be ok the 2nd time around'. You'll just be banned again.

 

[stevesmi]

nobody is going to help a 16 year old with steroid questions

PERIOD. stop trying to convince us to break our morals

you should be putting your energy into your schooling right now and if you are a dropout you better be starting up a business

 

[Mobster]

For other members: unlike Dn123 who says he doesn't want to read the articles we encourage you to read them. The info we add to them when we write them should, for the most part, be what we'll state here. Only when newer info comes along will it change. To use an analogy from another thread what worked in 1950 works now. That doesn't mean our understanding hasn't got better. Hence changes

 

[Chemically Enhanced]

What is your native language Dn123?

 

[chadmack282]

This has to b a joke, right!!

 

[Dn123]

What is your native language Dn123?

Sorry, but i will not tell you what is my native language. If you tell you, you will know from where i am.

For other members: unlike Dn123 who says he doesn't want to read the articles we encourage you to read them. The info we add to them when we write them should, for the most part, be what we'll state here. Only when newer info comes along will it change. To use an analogy from another thread what worked in 1950 works now. That doesn't mean our understanding hasn't got better. Hence changes

Im not trying to make bad reputation or your articles. I even read some of them.

nobody is going to help a 16 year old with steroid questions

PERIOD. stop trying to convince us to break our morals

you should be putting your energy into your schooling right now and if you are a dropout you better be starting up a business

Im 18 years old. If you dont believe me, i will show you proof. And why you think im 16 years old? Im not trying nothing about your morals. And i already kniw what i want to do with my life.

For what morals you are talking about, buddy? Dont forget you used steroids at my age. This means when you was at my age, you made someone to help you, right? This means you made someone to break his morals or what?

Before you're banned again there are questions you need to ask yourself. I'll number them just like you have:
1) You asked a LOT of questions previously and anytime the answer didn't work for you you asked again. More so the 'you're too young' replies
2) You complain another forum didn't wanna answer your questions either so, having been banned, decided the logical thing to do was create a new account then ask 30 questions. Not one or two or three but 30. Now we work for free on the forum and don't have all day to go through 30 questions for zero payment. We've limited time with families and day jobs as well as other members to help.
3) Never think 'I've been banned once it'll be ok the 2nd time around'. You'll just be banned again.

No, i dont want to be banned again. You can write all the answers for no more than 5 minutes. Even if i ask 1 question, you will still not answer... Or your answer will be - "you are way too young", or something like that... And i dont know what you are trying to achieve, telling me im too young. There is no "best age" for steroid using. If you do too long cycle, it will possibly shut down your ednocrine system, no matter at what age you are.

As you can see, everyone here in the topic is talking about everything, but not about the specific topic.

And for what reason i will be banned again? Im just asking for help. And why you didnt answer my question? It was - "Now, could you explain me in DETAILS why actually you dont want to help me?". Yes, i want to hear why actually you dont want to help me, what are the reasons? Do you even know what im feeling? I have questions, specially to you - you want me to have kids, right? If i freeze speem, will you help me? If i pay to women to born me kid, will you help me? What do you really want? Your wish is Dn123 to have kid/s, right? Ok, but what is the point?

Guys, after you are busy with work, then can i ask 5 questions daily? Dont ask me why i dont use other forum... In the other forums people are not experienced enough. I just want to use this forum!

Stevesmi, whats going on? I have the feeling you want me to disappear. Why you didnt answer the questions, that are specially for the two moderators? The questions are in the first post. If i prove you im 18 years old, then will you help me?

Mobster, are you the owner of the forum? If yes, you already earn money. This forum have big traffic and baners, so you are not here for free.

And again, i really appreciate you want to protect me, but you need to understand me.

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This has to b a joke, right!!

What joke, mate?

 

[Chemically Enhanced]

This has to b a joke, right!!

I wanted it to be a joke, I have some pretty good come backs for most of his questions, but if the kid is mentally unstable and talking about suicide, I decided not to make fun of it.
Looking at his drivel, I'd guess he's ~ 15 or so, no way this came from almost a 19 y.o. (according to him).

 

[Chemically Enhanced]

Sorry, but i will not tell you what is my native language. If you tell you, you will know from where i am.

OK, and where's harm in knowing that? Not asking your address, am I?
But don't bother replying to that if you don't want to.

 

[E32038]

OK, and where's harm in knowing that? Not asking your address, am I?
But don't bother replying to that if you don't want to.

He won't tell you his native language, but he will show you proof he is 18. LOL. yep...he's 15 at the most. And like you, I was going to say more, but decided not to, cause I don't want this poor kid to slit his wrists. Just want him to go away and seek a mental health professional.

 

[Dn123]

OK, and where's harm in knowing that? Not asking your address, am I?
But don't bother replying to that if you don't want to.

Im shy about my country

No, im not mentally unstable. I have very hard life, so if i was mentallt unstable, i would have done suicide. Well, i get waves of depression tgat lasts no longer 20 minutes. This is because i want to achieve something, but nobody can understand me and help me, you know what i mean? Im not weak soul, dont worry.

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that = that*

 

[stevesmi]

first off 16 and 18 is still a fucking kid

you aren't even old enough to rent a car, buy alcohol, take a cruise. so no i won't give you steroid advice

2nd I didn't use steroids at 18 nor did I even think about using them or care to use them, no such thing as short cuts in life. the first time I used I was almost 30.

why don't you spend the next 10 years learning about this stuff if you are so interested in them? then by that time you will be old enough to use them. that to me makes more sense.

 

[Dn123]

first off 16 and 18 is still a fucking kid

you aren't even old enough to rent a car, buy alcohol, take a cruise. so no i won't give you steroid advice

2nd I didn't use steroids at 18 nor did I even think about using them or care to use them, no such thing as short cuts in life. the first time I used I was almost 30.

why don't you spend the next 10 years learning about this stuff if you are so interested in them? then by that time you will be old enough to use them. that to me makes more sense.

Which is your cuntry? In my country, once you reach age of 18,you have the right to buy cigarettes, alchohol, driving cars... But im not interested in smoking and drinking alchohol, because doing this stull will not throw me on the top of the pyramid.

No, im not interested in steroids. Steroids are just medications, nothing interesting. Im interested to do bodybuilding career, to become IFBB. Yeah, steroids will take me there. I dont like steroids, but i will do it for the money.

You looks smart person. Why you just dont help me to reach my goal? My goal is to become pro. My goal is NOT to be guy, who will take steroids to attract girls or something like that.

I just need answers. The answers will educate me.

You have personal experience, right? You think im stupid, right? Then could you tell me 5 things that you think that i dont know about steroids? You can just test me, asking me questions. Ok, i will not look at google, lets test my REAL knowledge.

Im talking about dylangemelli. Mobster told me that dylangemelli used steroids at age of 18 and this is why he "fucked up" his ednocrine system and now he is on TRT for life. Desteoying ednocrine system is mistake, accorsing to Mobster and dylangemelli. Yes, its mistake, if you do steroids, but at the same time you think everything will be fine. But its not mistake when you do steroids, and at the same time YOU know your ednocrine system will be "fucked up", you can understand me.

Steve, are you on TRT now? According to Mobster, if you use steroids after age of 25, everything will he fine.

Why Mobster cant understand that age doesnt matter, when you use steroids. Too long steroids cycle will shut down your ednocrine system, no matter at what age you are. I talked to a pro, and he told me all pros are on TRT, because their cycle were too long. The same pro told me he started using steroids at age 27,and he is on TRT. Age 27 is after age 25. Can you understand what i mean? If you use steroids even at age 13, it will close the growth plates, but it will NOT damage your esnocrine system, if the cycle is short. But if the cycle is TOO long, it will damage your ednocrine system, no matter at what are you are.

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stull = stuff

 

[moze]

if you wanna be IFBB you need to find someone close who can help you because you will need someone closer then here on internet, even if i answered all the questions you still would need somone close to you. I know some bodybuilders who already have sick shape and weigh over 100 kilo off season and are 20 years old, but you need to have a lot of money or sponsor to start bodybuilding career because no ones gonna buy all the gear and help you use it wisely for free. Its a very expensive sport if you dont have someone to help you with money and knowledge i suggest you think of some other way to climb to the top of your pyramid

 

[Dn123]

if you wanna be IFBB you need to find someone close who can help you because you will need someone closer then here on internet, even if i answered all the questions you still would need somone close to you. I know some bodybuilders who already have sick shape and weigh over 100 kilo off season and are 20 years old, but you need to have a lot of money or sponsor to start bodybuilding career because no ones gonna buy all the gear and help you use it wisely for free. Its a very expensive sport if you dont have someone to help you with money and knowledge i suggest you think of some other way to climb to the top of your pyramid

The sponsor can be found via Instragram maybe but firstly i should build very big body. Im still steroids free but i want to start using them - this is why im asking for help people with personal experience. Because i want to know everything about the steroids, before i start use them.

But its fact i firstly must build big body and then to try to find sponsor - this is why im trying to find help, but nobody wants to help me

 

[Chemically Enhanced]

Start doing your own research then. Read, read and more read. It's like a fucken school kid and it takes more time and effort to know your shit than to ask 20 questions on a forum and be done with it.
You have internet access so get started, read about various compounds, their effects and side effects, long term imposture, etc. By the time you're proficient in a subject, you may be old enough to start using them.

As it stands right now, your questions are laughable and it shows that your knowledge is ZERO. It's not even worth anyone's time to start explaining how stupid your opening post sounds.

Come back later when you get a bit smarter on the subject then we could talk.

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[moze]

you dont realise how hard is to find sponsor, i know some european youth bodybuilding champions and they need to have side jobs and family to help them with money, its a tough thing, you should be big already before steroids you need sick genetics and health for bodybuilding, you aint goona find sponsor on instagram because its too many athletes in the world and many of them look better then you, put in your picture how do you look now before steroids, whats your weight/height. I can tell you if you have chances and what to do you need to do then, because its clear that you will use steroids and might get very big but bodybuilding professional career is way more then being big and in shape.

 

[chadmack282]

Only the top maybe 20% of ifbb pros don't have some sort of regular job. They work for supplement company's, strippers, body guards, trainers, mechanics, traits.
Only the top guys in the world make money, most pro body builders have a regular job.
They get free gear & supplement but have to have a job to pay the bills!!

 

[Dn123]

Only the top maybe 20% of ifbb pros don't have some sort of regular job. They work for supplement company's, strippers, body guards, trainers, mechanics, traits.
Only the top guys in the world make money, most pro body builders have a regular job.
They get free gear & supplement but have to have a job to pay the bills!!

Yes, i know only top guys earn money.

Strippers? How they work as a strippers, after some steroids shut down your erection during cycle?

you dont realise how hard is to find sponsor, i know some european youth bodybuilding champions and they need to have side jobs and family to help them with money, its a tough thing, you should be big already before steroids you need sick genetics and health for bodybuilding, you aint goona find sponsor on instagram because its too many athletes in the world and many of them look better then you, put in your picture how do you look now before steroids, whats your weight/height. I can tell you if you have chances and what to do you need to do then, because its clear that you will use steroids and might get very big but bodybuilding professional career is way more then being big and in shape.

How i can know if i have "perfect health? To date, i have been sick only one time - does this counts? I must use steroids to see how my body reacts. Then i will know if i can be ifbb or not.

And why its hard to find sponsor? Cant i just send my pictures to some company and wait to be approved?




Well, its clear nobody will help me here. I dont know why, but people in Internet are not helpful. I wasted time, asking steroids questions in steroid forums, but at all i didnt get answers.

I think i must pay some money to some doctor, in order to go on TRT for a few months, and see how my body will react. Yes, i know paying is illegal, but what i can do? Paying is my only solution, because people dont want to help.

Its pity that i have to do this kind of stuff, but its my only solution. The things could happen easy and legally, if people help me... but they dont want to help me and its their choice. I will not try to make them to help me... i will just try to do the things by myself.

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Start doing your own research then. Read, read and more read. It's like a fucken school kid and it takes more time and effort to know your shit than to ask 20 questions on a forum and be done with it.
You have internet access so get started, read about various compounds, their effects and side effects, long term imposture, etc. By the time you're proficient in a subject, you may be old enough to start using them.

As it stands right now, your questions are laughable and it shows that your knowledge is ZERO. It's not even worth anyone's time to start explaining how stupid your opening post sounds.

Come back later when you get a bit smarter on the subject then we could talk.

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My knowledge is not zero. I guess most of the answers of my question. I asked questions on which i alreasy guess the answers. I just wanted someone to confirm my knowledge, you know what i mean?

 

[Chemically Enhanced]

Strippers? How they work as a strippers, after some steroids shut down your erection during cycle?

...

My knowledge is not zero.

You just confirmed once again that your knowledge is zero.

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[EatClenTrenHarddd]

I'm pretty new around here, but why is this thread even still going??? its an 18yr kid arguing with adults.

 

[E32038]

I'm pretty new around here, but why is this thread even still going??? its an 18yr kid arguing with adults.

Agreed. I'm done engaging with him.

 

[chadmack282]

I'm pretty new around here, but why is this thread even still going??? its an 18yr kid arguing with adults.

Who is arguing?
Just trying to talk a little bit of sense into a young kid b4 he hurts himself & does damage to himself that can't be fixed.

 

[Mobster]

Yes, i know only top guys earn money.

Strippers? How they work as a strippers, after some steroids shut down your erection during cycle?


How i can know if i have "perfect health? To date, i have been sick only one time - does this counts? I must use steroids to see how my body reacts. Then i will know if i can be ifbb or not.

And why its hard to find sponsor? Cant i just send my pictures to some company and wait to be approved?




Well, its clear nobody will help me here. I dont know why, but people in Internet are not helpful. I wasted time, asking steroids questions in steroid forums, but at all i didnt get answers.

I think i must pay some money to some doctor, in order to go on TRT for a few months, and see how my body will react. Yes, i know paying is illegal, but what i can do? Paying is my only solution, because people dont want to help.

Its pity that i have to do this kind of stuff, but its my only solution. The things could happen easy and legally, if people help me... but they dont want to help me and its their choice. I will not try to make them to help me... i will just try to do the things by myself.

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My knowledge is not zero. I guess most of the answers of my question. I asked questions on which i alreasy guess the answers. I just wanted someone to confirm my knowledge, you know what i mean?

A stripper doesn't need to have erection. Hence one reply suggesting a lack of knowledge. You're a guy and unless you're gay (which doesn't seem to be the case) it's unlikely you'll have seen many male strippers. But you do have access to the internet, videos and so on. How many male strippers have you seen that needed a hard on?

 

[moze]

how can someone want to help you when we dont even know if you're serious, maybe you just trolling, we dont even know how you look and you want us to help you become IFBB pro... Wake up man stop dreammin

 

[Dn123]

Chadmack, by the law, its not forbidden someone to hurt himself, right? So by the law, im free even to kill myself, if i want. We live in europe. People in Europe use law, instead of religion. If you prefer religion instead law, then go to 3rd world or go to the Jungle. And again, by the law, everyone is free to take decisions, which will not hurt other people. How many times i have to tell it?

Mobster, im not a gay. Yes, i have watched some male stripper videos just for curiosity. The dancing bear strippers all of them have erection. But this discussion is not part of the topic.

Moze, its not necessary you to know how i look. I just wanted to ask some questions about steroids. What is the connection between someone's appearance and steroid use? What makes you to think im trolling? Im not interested in trolling, because its pointless.

I told you what im going to do. Mobster and dmods, close the topic and if you want, you can also ban me if you want. .. I will no longer aks steroid questions in Internet. Its better to pay to a doctor, only then the things will happen.

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I also wanted to ask questiobs people qho have personal experience with TRT. Yes, i know i can search for answers in google, but the people whp write the articles are not on TRT, so they sont have personal experience

 

[rickyhale88]

here you go, I made a video for you that tells you all the answers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJ417i8qAdY&t=1s

 

[Dn123]

here you go, I made a video for you that tells you all the answers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJ417i8qAdY&t=1s

I know you lie. And i will not click on the link, because im afraid of what i will see.

 

[Mobster]

Chadmack, by the law, its not forbidden someone to hurt himself, right? So by the law, im free even to kill myself, if i want. We live in europe. People in Europe use law, instead of religion. If you prefer religion instead law, then go to 3rd world or go to the Jungle. And again, by the law, everyone is free to take decisions, which will not hurt other people. How many times i have to tell it?

Mobster, im not a gay. Yes, i have watched some male stripper videos just for curiosity. The dancing bear strippers all of them have erection. But this discussion is not part of the topic.

Moze, its not necessary you to know how i look. I just wanted to ask some questions about steroids. What is the connection between someone's appearance and steroid use? What makes you to think im trolling? Im not interested in trolling, because its pointless.

I told you what im going to do. Mobster and dmods, close the topic and if you want, you can also ban me if you want. .. I will no longer aks steroid questions in Internet. Its better to pay to a doctor, only then the things will happen.

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I also wanted to ask questiobs people qho have personal experience with TRT. Yes, i know i can search for answers in google, but the people whp write the articles are not on TRT, so they sont have personal experience

Dude the Dancing Bear stuff is all porn. That's not what 99% of male strippers do. Heck, if it was there's a LOT of guys who'd be real pissed when their girls went out.

 

[E32038]

I know you lie. And i will not click on the link, because im afraid of what i will see.

Dude, you are watching dancing bear porn. Something tells me you may be searching that shit out. More power to you, I guess.

 

[awm1981]

I just spent 10 mins read this whole thread and almost peed myself.....

 

[Dominus13]

DN123.... I read this whole article , every last line ...

1) you are too young ... both for using AAS and obviously being here in this forum . You were told to read articles that are all over EVO for free and you fought so you would not have to .

2) you are argumentative which shows you are ignorant of what REAL life is all about . IFBB at 18 ???Are you fucking serious ??

3) why don’t you try some good old fashioned training , get your diet dialed in for what you want to do... gain MASS, get CUT... etc. .....

4) maybe ... just maybe look into some OTC supplements that are NOT hormonal in nature . Good place to start ... good old fashioned protein... some creatine... glutamine ... see my point ????

I think everyone is on the same page with you here . Plenty of people tried to help you ... but you know what I didn’t see in all the replies from you on this thread???

A simple Thank You ... good luck in your endeavors...

 

[jasenlmc]

Just read this whole article ,What can I say?Give your respect for someone who's more experienced than you.Maybe you can stand up for someone who is against you, but when everyone is against you, you should think about whether you are in the wrong place.

 

[Dn123]

Just read this whole article ,What can I say?Give your respect for someone who's more experienced than you.Maybe you can stand up for someone who is against you, but when everyone is against you, you should think about whether you are in the wrong place.

The questions are why they are agains me? What wrong i did? What are the reasons? I dont know why, but these people really want me to have kids one day. Well, i toldthem i will freeze sperm, and this will be the guarantee that i will have kids one day... but these people never answered... I just dont know what they are trying to do... Im serious, i cant understand what they want to achieve... They still dont want to help me, even after i gave them guarantee that i will have kid/s

DN123.... I read this whole article , every last line ...

1) you are too young ... both for using AAS and obviously being here in this forum . You were told to read articles that are all over EVO for free and you fought so you would not have to .

2) you are argumentative which shows you are ignorant of what REAL life is all about . IFBB at 18 ???Are you fucking serious ??

3) why don’t you try some good old fashioned training , get your diet dialed in for what you want to do... gain MASS, get CUT... etc. .....

4) maybe ... just maybe look into some OTC supplements that are NOT hormonal in nature . Good place to start ... good old fashioned protein... some creatine... glutamine ... see my point ????

I think everyone is on the same page with you here . Plenty of people tried to help you ... but you know what I didn’t see in all the replies from you on this thread???

A simple Thank You ... good luck in your endeavors...

I already thanked them. I have one more account. And i already explained them i really appreciate tge fact they are trying to save me. But i also told them, that this is my choice. The easiest way for me is just to create an account and to say im 30 years old but i will not do it because i want to be honest with them... but they dont respect it

I just spent 10 mins read this whole thread and almost peed myself.....

Peed? If you want to shit yourself, just read this https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/steroid-cycle-60569.html?highlight=Dndndn some of the posts are very interesting and realistic. Read the post about rich and poor guys, its on page 3. Then come and tell me im wrong...

 

[1989]

No, i dont want you to have children. You dont deserve as such.
You dont deserve erection. You need to go to Egypt, shalom.

 

[Mobster]

So question one:
Does pro body builders have sleep apnea? Does big muscles of neck cause it?

No. Not all pros. Just being big does. Being obese or overweight. A bunch of my powerlifting and strongman buddies are 150-kilo / 330lbs plus and have apnea. It's not just neck size but also the weight on the chest

 

[Dn123]

And how they are dealing with the sleep apnea? They use CPAP or what? And how big someone have to be to get sleep apnea? And its fact all pros are on CPAP or oral appliance?

18. Can HGH go wrong / fatal?
19. Once i start steroids, how long does it takes my balls to shrink?

Have you ever used steroids?






Thanks

 

[Mobster]

And how they are dealing with the sleep apnea? They use CPAP or what? And how big someone have to be to get sleep apnea? And its fact all pros are on CPAP or oral appliance?

18. Can HGH go wrong / fatal?
19. Once i start steroids, how long does it takes my balls to shrink?

Have you ever used steroids?






Thanks

Dude I answer questions when I feel like it so... unless I'm getting paid (I'm not) or you're paying me (you're not) slow your ass down.

I already said not all pros get it. Not all pros are 280lbs. Not every pro in bodybuilding is a physique champion. Of my very large buddies only a FEW (like of say ten+, 2-3) use a CPAP machine. One, Sam Parker (800lb squatter) has put photos up on Facebook of him with the mask on. He's 5'9 or so and 160+ kilos.

I'll pick another question tomorrow. I won't answer any we previously replied to when you had the other account. So go back and read your old posts

 

[j0hnqd03]

DYOR and quit being lazy. Way too many dumb irrelevant questions.

 

[Mobster]

And how they are dealing with the sleep apnea? They use CPAP or what? And how big someone have to be to get sleep apnea? And its fact all pros are on CPAP or oral appliance?

18. Can HGH go wrong / fatal?
19. Once i start steroids, how long does it takes my balls to shrink?

Have you ever used steroids?






Thanks

Yes. But I waited 22 years (started lifting age 15, 'used' age 37). Not age 18 like you say you are.

 

[Dn123]

Im 185-187 (and continue growing) high and im 85-87 kilos without training. I have very thick bones and muscles, without even training. I would like to know does being this kind of big cause sleep apnea? I want to know can just being big can cause sleep apnea? There are people that are very big just by bone structure and they are very high, but they have no muscles - can this scenario cause sleep apnea? I used to train, but never had sleep problems. Using CPAP is risky, because CPAP can sedn air in the wrong place. If i become pro, i will be ok with the facts i will get strokes, higher risk of heart attack, dead hormonal system, diabete and much more problems, but im not qith the fact that i will get sleep apnea. Sleep apnea is real torture and i dont deserve it, because i never did something bad. I will train hard to get as big as possible, and if i get sleep apnea, i will go to porn. I know i sound very, very naive, but i really, really want a way to earn money easily and live good life.


Ok. You will answer 1 questions daily? Im satisfied. But pick the questions that sounds most important to you. Thanks.

 

[Chemically Enhanced]

Jeses, go away already, there are things that are much worse than sleep apnea.
And saying "and i dont deserve it, because i never did something bad", you will deserve everything that comes to you if you start doing roids before you fully mature.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Im starting to think about suicide and self-hurting... This is happening because nobody wants to help me. Ignoring is not good idea too.

Lesson: When all else fails, manipulate.

 

[Dn123]

you will deserve everything that comes to you if you start doing roids before you fully mature.

What is the difference between starting steroids before age of 25, and starting steroids after age of 25? If you will talk about ednocrine system, dont do it! I already talked about steroids and the ednocrine system.

If i cant have kids, this is not problem for me. Having kids is pointless at all. If i have kids, one day i will die, they will die too.


"I’ve always thought life must be a big joke. People spend their lives doing work in order to survive, but inevitably, they die. More often than not, their deaths are preceded by illness, pain, and physical deterioration. I can understand someone who already exists putting up with the process by default, because suicide requires major action. The biggest joke is that they make their own lives more work by voluntarily having children who will go through the same unpleasant process and end up dead"

From Quora.

I know sooner or later i will die. No matter if i use steroids before age of 25, or after age of 25 - one day i will die. No matter if i eat healthy food and have healthy lifestyle - one day i will die. Even if i dont use steroids, i will die. So stop talking pointless sentences. I dont care if i die... i just dont want to die in pain.

Life is pointless. No matter what you will achieve - one day you will die and lose everything. Imagine that you are building very big tower, but you already know that when you put the last part of the tower, earthquake will hit..... Do you understand what i mean, my friend? The people in this forum must realize that if you dont use steoids, time will kill you. So, what is the purpose to trying to stay healthy and living long, after you know you will die, no matter what you are doing. If i use steroids, i will damage my body and maybe i will die younger, right? But this is not problem, because i already know one day i will die. No matter if you die young or old - death is the same for all ages. Death is death.

Eddie, im not manipulating nobody. Im just telling them what is happening.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Eddie, im not manipulating nobody. Im just telling them what is happening.

Ah, a Freudian double negative. Well at least you have acknowledged your borderline personality disorder, Dn123.

 

[stellar]

You are an amazing kid. You can tell your story, I 100% guarantee I will not cry. I am sure you are miserable, you make other people miserable. You really sound Borderline, or schizophrenic, and it’s not because English is not your first language. I don’t be,ie e you are bi-lingual for a second, but I believe your lonely and not equipped to deal with life on life’s terms. I would be shocked if you have any interest in bodybuilding by 20. You’re more likely to win the lottery and talk to a girl on the same day than get your pro card. And porn takes skill. Not many virgins trying to break into porn. In the U.S. it is absolutely illegal to kill yourself. Talking the way you do will get you pink slipped into a state hospital. They will take your rights and if you try to pay off a doctor you could end up in n jail. There are easier ways to get a boyfriend, but even in jail you will have likely have trouble. You embody anti-charisma, and whether you have a character disorder or a personality disorder you have no social skills whatsoever. That is what to work on, steroids won’t help. But this thread is a microcosm for you in society, use this. If you really want happiness you got to learn to bring to others, right now you are repugnant but you weren’t born that way, and you don’t have to oscillate between entitled and victim for the rest of your life. You can talk about death and children to a professional, but for now a friend is going to cost you. Take the money you were going to spend on a cycle and start over as a person. You have plenty time to reinvent yourself. Just don’t ask how to do it. Not here. As for bodybuilding, it takes thinner skin than you probably imagine and thicker skin than you have even begun to develop. It’s a terrible sport for the self delusional. Oh, that’s you. Right now. Porn has lots of young girls that are runaways and drug addicts. But they are doing better than you, and my guess is you wouldn’t last a scene. I imagine the porn industry will see you as the asshole you’ve beccme, and they know assholes. I have heard. You fell and broke your character, pretend it’s your leg and see a doctor. Don’t leave it until later. Your personality is already developing gangrene. I hope you get it together, but get a professional. If you need convincing read this thread objectively, eighteen years has you got you here. The next 18 can be totally different. This is a choice you are old enough to make. Be kind because everybody is fighting a battle within.......the difference is these people are winning. Fix the flaws that are ruing your aesthetics, because you have some glaring issues. Good luck, some day maybe you will look back and laugh. Not because it’s funny, it’s not, but because you will understand what everybody is saying. Hopefully. I believe in you.

 

[Dn123]

Im not virgin. I have slept with two gays, i have slept with girls too. I dont know who is sick-brain, but im not. I feel someone who is using fake profiles to talk to me, he is sick. Being sick is nothing wrong.

What do you think? You think that i everyday im waking up with a different dream? No... im interested in bodybuilding since 2017 - maybe i got into it in the begining of 2016.

Why do you think i cant last in even one scene? I know some secrets about porn industry, and i can tell you that the things are not the same as you think. Nobody can last 100 hours. The long porn videos are made on pauses and breaks.

You are looser, this is why you are insulting me for no reason. Im on higher level than you. Im not sociopath and i have social skills. I know how to comunicate. Just put yourself under the ground and rest in peace. Dont talk to me, after you cant talk. You are talkig senseless things. I know who i am, i know what i want and i know how to achieve it.

Do you even know who i am? No, you dont know me - so dont talk things about people that you even dont know...

And why you think im sick-brain?

Yesterday's night one gay came to me and he wanted to suck my... (and we talked and i used social skills) This is a sign that im still atractive. I know who you are, and i recomend you to not fu*k with me, because your behaviour is a sign of poor parenting. You will never insult me if you are on the street with me. Yeah, its easy to attack someone on the Internet, but in real life its dangerous to mess with animal as me.

Im here because of Mobster. He is the only one who will give me answers. I want answers from him because he is experienced.

Stellar, dont thonk im stupid.

Stellar, if you cant say something serious, just dont talk.

And if you hate me so much (for no reason), then lets Mobster to tell me to leave the forum and i will do it firever. FOREVER. And you will see me never again.

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Mobster, do you want me to leave this forum?

 

[E32038]

This went from really sad to really freaking weird. This poor kid is totally confused.

 

[Dn123]

This went from really sad to really freaking weird. This poor kid is totally confused.

Yes, you are absolutely right! I just want to become rich by the easy way. There are sooo much ways to make my dream real, but everything comes with risks. For example, bodybuilding can kill me. Porn can give me STDs and kill me too. Once i pass the amatuer stage, then i will be safe from STDs. But there is no guarantee that i will pass the amatuer stage successfully. I just dont know what to do with my life. I want to become rich as fast a possible, because the life is not long and i know i have no time to waste. I just want ro have enough money and be able to buy what i want, bit its nit happening. If i dont become rich in the next 5 years, simply i will kill myself. Now im average guy and i dont like the feeling. Im sure you cant understand me, because you are not on my place.

Dont tell me to go to school. You know school doesnt matter. Everyone can have higher education, but this higher education is just piece of paper if you dont have any skills. For example, most of you think all advocates are successful. No, its nit true. If we have here 1000 advocates, just 10-20 of them will be rich and successful. The rest of them will be just average advocates that dont earn a lot of money. Do you understand what im trying to say?

 

[Chemically Enhanced]

If you want to get rich very quick and die in 5 years then sell your kidney, then another one, then something else... You will die rich.

 

[E32038]

Yes, you are absolutely right! I just want to become rich by the easy way. There are sooo much ways to make my dream real, but everything comes with risks. For example, bodybuilding can kill me. Porn can give me STDs and kill me too. Once i pass the amatuer stage, then i will be safe from STDs. But there is no guarantee that i will pass the amatuer stage successfully. I just dont know what to do with my life. I want to become rich as fast a possible, because the life is not long and i know i have no time to waste. I just want ro have enough money and be able to buy what i want, bit its nit happening. If i dont become rich in the next 5 years, simply i will kill myself. Now im average guy and i dont like the feeling. Im sure you cant understand me, because you are not on my place.

Dont tell me to go to school. You know school doesnt matter. Everyone can have higher education, but this higher education is just piece of paper if you dont have any skills. For example, most of you think all advocates are successful. No, its nit true. If we have here 1000 advocates, just 10-20 of them will be rich and successful. The rest of them will be just average advocates that dont earn a lot of money. Do you understand what im trying to say?

I had initially decided not to engage you again, but against my better judgment, I'm going to. There is no way you are only 18. I'm guessing like 13 or 14. If you really think then is an easy way to be rich or school doesn't matter, then you really are dumber or crazier than I thought you were. You make pretty much zero sense. I'm hoping that is just the language barrier. So you are going to kill yourself in 5 years if you don't become rich. Well, then you better make these next 5 years great cause guess what, buddy?

No, I'm not in your place now. But all of us men here have been in some similar place. We were all kids too. We all had big dreams. Some of us made it, some of us didn't. But we're all still here. We grew the fuck up and didn't whine and complain about not getting what we wanted. We worked hard for it. At 17, i went in the Marines. You wouldn't even pass a fucking psych eval to get into being an EMT. I wasn't ready for school back then but I knew the value of school. It took me 10 years to get my bachelor's degree. 10 fucking years. And I worked my balls off and had a family in the meantime. But I did it. Dude, the only way you are going to get rich is from hard work. And even then your chances are slim. If you think being a body builder is going to make you rich, you are dumber than dumber than I thought you were.

If you define success by the amount of money you have, you have a shit ton to learn. I'm holding back a tremendous amount about what I want to tell you because I am trying to be somewhat respectful to you, but I have respect for this forum, the people that run it, and the other people in it. You said you would leave if Mobster asked you to.

Mobster - i'm begging you bro....for the love of god, please gracefully let this young, troubled man go. And if he does listen to you for whatever reason, please ask him to get some serious help. Cause he isn't listening to any of us.

I am done engaging with you now, DN123. I wish you the best of luck, but this is now counterproductive and you just don't get it and only maturity will get you there.

 

[DarkKnight407]

If this kid has mental issues let’s get in touch with a mental health pro who can help him. He obviously won’t give up until we tell him what we wants to hear, not the truth.


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[DarkKnight407]

Like most kids of this generation his mindset is give me answers, I don’t want to do the hard work of research. Wake up kid. Life requires hard work to achieve success. The only place where success comes before work is the dictionary. If you truly are having mental health issues get some help. We will be praying for you.


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[Chemically Enhanced]

Like most kids of this generation his mindset is give me answers, I don’t want to do the hard work of research. Wake up kid. Life requires hard work to achieve success. The only place where success comes before work is the dictionary. If you truly are having mental health issues get some help. We will be praying for you.


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This. Exactly what I told him earlier - do your own research.

Back when I was 18, any sort of research required spending hours (or even days) in a fucken library, sifting through the books. Now with internet they have access to all the world's information at their fingertips, but they use it post retarded pictures on instagram and facebook, and to whine on BB forum demanding we give him his answers.

 

[Mobster]

This. Exactly what I told him earlier - do your own research.

Back when I was 18, any sort of research required spending hours (or even days) in a fucken library, sifting through the books. Now with internet they have access to all the world's information at their fingertips, but they use it post retarded pictures on instagram and facebook, and to whine on BB forum demanding we give him his answers.

The issue of instant access is ZERO RETENTION.

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I had initially decided not to engage you again, but against my better judgment, I'm going to. There is no way you are only 18. I'm guessing like 13 or 14. If you really think then is an easy way to be rich or school doesn't matter, then you really are dumber or crazier than I thought you were. You make pretty much zero sense. I'm hoping that is just the language barrier. So you are going to kill yourself in 5 years if you don't become rich. Well, then you better make these next 5 years great cause guess what, buddy?

No, I'm not in your place now. But all of us men here have been in some similar place. We were all kids too. We all had big dreams. Some of us made it, some of us didn't. But we're all still here. We grew the fuck up and didn't whine and complain about not getting what we wanted. We worked hard for it. At 17, i went in the Marines. You wouldn't even pass a fucking psych eval to get into being an EMT. I wasn't ready for school back then but I knew the value of school. It took me 10 years to get my bachelor's degree. 10 fucking years. And I worked my balls off and had a family in the meantime. But I did it. Dude, the only way you are going to get rich is from hard work. And even then your chances are slim. If you think being a body builder is going to make you rich, you are dumber than dumber than I thought you were.

If you define success by the amount of money you have, you have a shit ton to learn. I'm holding back a tremendous amount about what I want to tell you because I am trying to be somewhat respectful to you, but I have respect for this forum, the people that run it, and the other people in it. You said you would leave if Mobster asked you to.

Mobster - i'm begging you bro....for the love of god, please gracefully let this young, troubled man go. And if he does listen to you for whatever reason, please ask him to get some serious help. Cause he isn't listening to any of us.

I am done engaging with you now, DN123. I wish you the best of luck, but this is now counterproductive and you just don't get it and only maturity will get you there.

I can't ban him etc. That's down to the admins.

 

[E32038]

The issue of instant access is ZERO RETENTION.

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I can't ban him etc. That's down to the admins.

Let's see if he's a boy of his word, he said if you told him to, he'd leave on his own. Maybe he doesn't need to be banned. Hopeful he will leave on his own.

 

[Dn123]

I had initially decided not to engage you again, but against my better judgment, I'm going to. There is no way you are only 18. I'm guessing like 13 or 14. If you really think then is an easy way to be rich or school doesn't matter, then you really are dumber or crazier than I thought you were. You make pretty much zero sense. I'm hoping that is just the language barrier. So you are going to kill yourself in 5 years if you don't become rich. Well, then you better make these next 5 years great cause guess what, buddy?

No, I'm not in your place now. But all of us men here have been in some similar place. We were all kids too. We all had big dreams. Some of us made it, some of us didn't. But we're all still here. We grew the fuck up and didn't whine and complain about not getting what we wanted. We worked hard for it. At 17, i went in the Marines. You wouldn't even pass a fucking psych eval to get into being an EMT. I wasn't ready for school back then but I knew the value of school. It took me 10 years to get my bachelor's degree. 10 fucking years. And I worked my balls off and had a family in the meantime. But I did it. Dude, the only way you are going to get rich is from hard work. And even then your chances are slim. If you think being a body builder is going to make you rich, you are dumber than dumber than I thought you were.

If you define success by the amount of money you have, you have a shit ton to learn. I'm holding back a tremendous amount about what I want to tell you because I am trying to be somewhat respectful to you, but I have respect for this forum, the people that run it, and the other people in it. You said you would leave if Mobster asked you to.

Mobster - i'm begging you bro....for the love of god, please gracefully let this young, troubled man go. And if he does listen to you for whatever reason, please ask him to get some serious help. Cause he isn't listening to any of us.

I am done engaging with you now, DN123. I wish you the best of luck, but this is now counterproductive and you just don't get it and only maturity will get you there.

Its obviously all people here think im wasting time, smoking weed and drinking alchohol in the bars everynight and every day... Its obviously nobosy here believes in me. But you will see what will happen... I really hope you to not leave the forum in the next 5 years. If i dont become rich, then i will make suicide on live and you will watch. Then you will realize im serious, not a troll. But if im lucky and become rich, then another surprise will come.

Yes, i know school matter. But there are people without higher educations and homeless people that become rich. I dont think i will have the same luck as them, but i really want to find way...

The money are the most important thing on the Earth. Maybe you think being succeasful means to have nice job, wife and kids? Well, EVERYONE have nice job, kids and wife, but not everyone have a lot of money, right? Money are the real success. When you have money, you are big person and you can controll the situations. But when you are just average guy, you are NOBODY and people dont want to listen to you, because you are nobody.

If you want to get rich very quick and die in 5 years then sell your kidney, then another one, then something else... You will die rich.

Cant you sell your own kidney, then to give me the money as a gift?

If this kid has mental issues let’s get in touch with a mental health pro who can help him. He obviously won’t give up until we tell him what we wants to hear, not the truth.


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Could you tell me the truth, please? I want to her it.

Like most kids of this generation his mindset is give me answers, I don’t want to do the hard work of research. Wake up kid. Life requires hard work to achieve success. The only place where success comes before work is the dictionary. If you truly are having mental health issues get some help. We will be praying for you.


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Im ok woth the mental health. If you pray, only you will hear the praying.

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Let's see if he's a boy of his word, he said if you told him to, he'd leave on his own. Maybe he doesn't need to be banned. Hopeful he will leave on his own.

Yes, i will leave the forum if Mobster really wants

 

[Eddie Haskell]

If you pray, only you will hear the praying.

So our Dn123 is right about one thing.

 

[Mobster]

Its obviously all people here think im wasting time, smoking weed and drinking alchohol in the bars everynight and every day... Its obviously nobosy here believes in me. But you will see what will happen... I really hope you to not leave the forum in the next 5 years. If i dont become rich, then i will make suicide on live and you will watch. Then you will realize im serious, not a troll. But if im lucky and become rich, then another surprise will come.

Yes, i know school matter. But there are people without higher educations and homeless people that become rich. I dont think i will have the same luck as them, but i really want to find way...

The money are the most important thing on the Earth. Maybe you think being succeasful means to have nice job, wife and kids? Well, EVERYONE have nice job, kids and wife, but not everyone have a lot of money, right? Money are the real success. When you have money, you are big person and you can controll the situations. But when you are just average guy, you are NOBODY and people dont want to listen to you, because you are nobody.




Cant you sell your own kidney, then to give me the money as a gift?




Could you tell me the truth, please? I want to her it.



Im ok woth the mental health. If you pray, only you will hear the praying.

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Yes, i will leave the forum if Mobster really wants

Did you... just to be clear... threaten to not only commit suicide but to do so live on the internet? Just to be clear. This if you don't get what you want.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Did you... just to be clear... threaten to not only commit suicide but to do so live on the internet? Just to be clear. This if you don't get what you want.

Yes. Yes, he did threaten to commit suicide if he didn't get what he wants. But he's not manipulative. Just ask him.

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Eddie, I'm not manipulating [anybody].

See what I mean?