I suspect @BigBoyLabs HGH is fake

[LeakingCoffee]

I purchased 200 IU of HGH from @BigBoyLabs and used it last night and tonight, injecting 5 IU each time. However, I strongly believe the product is fake. Here’s why:

For the past month, I’ve been injecting 5 IU of HGH every night from a different, verified vendor. About an hour and a half after each injection, I would feel extremely tired, sleepy, and unable to stay awake. The effect was so strong that I could barely walk.

While using that HGH, I placed an order for 200 IU from @BigBoyLabs. When my previous supply ran out, I started using the new one last night. After injecting, I felt absolutely nothing. The same thing happened tonight—no effects at all.

Additionally, the vials are of very poor quality. When I try to remove the cap, the entire cap, including the rubber seal, comes off, leaving the vial completely open. I also noticed that all the vials are filled with air. I checked a few at random, and they don’t create suction when injecting needle. Similarly, there’s no need to push air into the vial to withdraw the liquid because they are already filled with air.

I sent a private message to @BigBoyLabs, but they haven’t bothered to respond.

On another forum, several people have also mentioned that they suspect @BigBoyLabs' HGH is fake.

I ordered from them because they are listed as a verified supplier and even hold VIP status on this EVO forum.

I could take a blood test to prove my claim, but why should I waste another $200 when I can already tell the product is not working? I’ve already lost $500.

To the EVO admin team: I urge you to investigate this issue. I have completely lost trust in the so-called "trusted list."

Note: Please note, I have nothing against @BigBoyLabs personally, in fact I even did not know them at all. This is just my first time with them.

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[Eddie Haskell]

I purchased 200 IU of HGH from @BigBoyLabs and used it last night and tonight, injecting 5 IU each time. However, I strongly believe the product is fake. Here’s why:

For the past month, I’ve been injecting 5 IU of HGH every night from a different, verified vendor. About an hour and a half after each injection, I would feel extremely tired, sleepy, and unable to stay awake. The effect was so strong that I could barely walk.

While using that HGH, I placed an order for 200 IU from @BigBoyLabs. When my previous supply ran out, I started using the new one last night. After injecting, I felt absolutely nothing. The same thing happened tonight—no effects at all.

Additionally, the vials are of very poor quality. When I try to remove the cap, the entire cap, including the rubber seal, comes off, leaving the vial completely open. I also noticed that all the vials are filled with air. I checked a few at random, and they don’t create suction when injecting needle. Similarly, there’s no need to push air into the vial to withdraw the liquid because they are already filled with air.

I sent a private message to @BigBoyLabs, but they haven’t bothered to respond.

On another forum, several people have also mentioned that they suspect @BigBoyLabs' HGH is fake.

I ordered from them because they are listed as a verified supplier and even hold VIP status on this EVO forum.

I could take a blood test to prove my claim, but why should I waste another $200 when I can already tell the product is not working? I’ve already lost $500.

To the EVO admin team: I urge you to investigate this issue. I have completely lost trust in the so-called "trusted list."

Note: Please note, I have nothing against @BigBoyLabs personally, in fact I even did not know them at all. This is just my first time with them.

@LeakingCoffee anything is possible, but we should hear out @BigBoyLabs part in this.

I think 2 days of use is not a reasonable time to determine quality. Such a short period is not a determination of product quality, especially without bloods.
You should look into 191 vs 192 amino acid hgh as well.
Last, your storage and reconstitution of the hgh is also factor to consider.

 

[LeakingCoffee]

@LeakingCoffee anything is possible, but we should hear out @BigBoyLabs part in this.

I think 2 days of use is not a reasonable time to determine quality. Such a short period is not a determination of product quality, especially without bloods.
You should look into 191 vs 192 amino acid hgh as well.
Last, your storage and reconstitution of the hgh is also factor to consider.

my storage and reconstitution is exactly the same as I have used for the previous one which was working very well. You feel the effect of real HGH in just 2 hours if one injects 5iu, two days are more than enough. I agree that blood test would be a concrete proof but the problem is that after spending $200 more on blood test what will get in return, just a middle finger from bigBoy

 

[s.gentz]

I purchased 200 IU of HGH from @BigBoyLabs and used it last night and tonight, injecting 5 IU each time. However, I strongly believe the product is fake. Here’s why:

For the past month, I’ve been injecting 5 IU of HGH every night from a different, verified vendor. About an hour and a half after each injection, I would feel extremely tired, sleepy, and unable to stay awake. The effect was so strong that I could barely walk.

While using that HGH, I placed an order for 200 IU from @BigBoyLabs. When my previous supply ran out, I started using the new one last night. After injecting, I felt absolutely nothing. The same thing happened tonight—no effects at all.

Additionally, the vials are of very poor quality. When I try to remove the cap, the entire cap, including the rubber seal, comes off, leaving the vial completely open. I also noticed that all the vials are filled with air. I checked a few at random, and they don’t create suction when injecting needle. Similarly, there’s no need to push air into the vial to withdraw the liquid because they are already filled with air.

I sent a private message to @BigBoyLabs, but they haven’t bothered to respond.

On another forum, several people have also mentioned that they suspect @BigBoyLabs' HGH is fake.

I ordered from them because they are listed as a verified supplier and even hold VIP status on this EVO forum.

I could take a blood test to prove my claim, but why should I waste another $200 when I can already tell the product is not working? I’ve already lost $500.

To the EVO admin team: I urge you to investigate this issue. I have completely lost trust in the so-called "trusted list."

Note: Please note, I have nothing against @BigBoyLabs personally, in fact I even did not know them at all. This is just my first time with them.

I have honestly never felt so tired after taking GH that I couldn't function. I've taken 10+iu pharma GH and never had any "feelings" but carpel tunnel.
My advice before bashing someone publicly is to have your product tested. If it's fake then bigboy can be pressured to make it right by the forums that support him. Just making a claim with no proof to back it up is bad form.
If your not getting a response from BB then DM a mod so we can help you.

 

[BigCheese2000]

my storage and reconstitution is exactly the same as I have used for the previous one which was working very well. You feel the effect of real HGH in just 2 hours if one injects 5iu, two days are more than enough. I agree that blood test would be a concrete proof but the problem is that after spending $200 more on blood test what will get in return, just a middle finger from bigBoy

Pretty sure on imedical you can get the necessary tests to check your levels but isn’t anywhere near 200. @Eveflorence could chime in on the particular test you have to get but I believe it’s just hgh which would run ya 48 bucks in imed

 

[LeakingCoffee]

ok, I will do the blood test and will post the results here. But I have to keep injecting the same 5iu for three weeks and then do the test, just to be fair with my accusations. Currently my hgh levels in blood are already good because of the previous vendor hgh that was working very very well.
I will come and post the blood tests right here

 

[TheOne1]

@LeakingCoffee mate if you're not willing to do a blood test to prove it's fake, you're being a sook.

The vials may well not have a vacuum seal (I don't know because I haven't used it), but that's subjective.

It doesn't cost $200 to test serum HGH and IGF1. iMedical tests HGH and IGF1 for $29 each (go check the website)

Without blood tests or HPLC reports, this is just unfair slander.

Go get the blood test (i hope you know when to time it), and then make your point.

 

[BigCheese2000]

@LeakingCoffee mate if you're not willing to do a blood test to prove it's fake, you're being a sook.

The vials may well not have a vacuum seal (I don't know because I haven't used it), but that's subjective.

It doesn't cost $200 to test serum HGH and IGF1. iMedical tests HGH and IGF1 for $29 each (go check the website)

Without blood tests or HPLC reports, this is just unfair slander.

Go get the blood test (i hope you know when to time it), and then make your point.

Personally running atm my vials are fine but could be an issue with his unsure on that. But agreed burden of proof is on this bloke, fairly wild statement to make without receipts. But if there’s any issues testing wise then absolutely fair

 

[LeakingCoffee]

@LeakingCoffee mate if you're not willing to do a blood test to prove it's fake, you're being a sook.

The vials may well not have a vacuum seal (I don't know because I haven't used it), but that's subjective.

It doesn't cost $200 to test serum HGH and IGF1. iMedical tests HGH and IGF1 for $29 each (go check the website)

Without blood tests or HPLC reports, this is just unfair slander.

Go get the blood test (i hope you know when to time it), and then make your point.

agreed, I already posted that I will do the blood test and will post the results here!

 

[TheOne1]

agreed, I already posted that I will do the blood test and will post the results here!

Fantastic!

btw, also when you're trying a new supplier, it's worth making a small order for the first time to test it out for yourself. Also, ask if they have a recent HPLC report and for HGH specifically, if it's just relabeled Chinese generics (most honest suppliers will tell you it is as they all kinda get it from similar sources). There are 1-2 other sources who apparently vial it themselves, i'm not so sure about those tho, but can't know without testing it...

 

[Flak]

That is a wild accusation to post without testing and only after 2 nights of use..

Something you should have tried to follow up directly with BBL further before coming on here. Doesn’t sound like you gave him much of a chance to get back to you.

 

[coolguy77711]

The gh seems to work for me same feeling I got running gh from other suppliers.
About 4-5iu is where I start to actively feel it. Just doing 2 at the moment though.

 

[s.gentz]

agreed, I already posted that I will do the blood test and will post the results here!

I hope you understand that for bloodwork you need to inject right before you go for testing. GH is a short acting compound. When you take it you get a "pulse". It not like test or other esterified drugs.

But I have to keep injecting the same 5iu for three weeks and then do the test, just to be fair with my accusations. Currently my hgh levels in blood are already good because of the previous vendor hgh that was working very very well.

If you've been taking the new stuff for a few weeks then your GTG. Your IGF will dip after a day of not taking exogenous GH.

You'd prob be better off sending the GH itself to be tested if you can.

 

[RoidRage69]

Your need to do a hgh blood test 3 hours after injecting an entire vial into your bicep.

 

[Eveflorence]

Pretty sure on imedical you can get the necessary tests to check your levels but isn’t anywhere near 200. @Eveflorence could chime in on the particular test you have to get but I believe it’s just hgh which would run ya 48 bucks in imed

Thanks cheese yeah IGF-1 and HGH is what you want tested as others have stated. It's not necessarily just about your GH levels either, IGF is what we want to be looking at. @AE1079 is a plethora of knowledge when it comes to the mechanics of this maybe he can chime in?

 

[Eveflorence]

Also, and this will obviously sound biased given the circumstances, but I've been running @BigBoyLabs GH for a few weeks at 4iu eod and have had the same desired effects I had when using Livewell's.
I will do bloods in a week or so.

 

[Oracle911]

10iu shot into delt, wait 2.5 hours get fasted hgh serum test, can be ordered on imedical xo

 

[Pigsy]

Blood work evidence is required here. Before going off at a Vendor.

I personally don't feel anything other than slight hand tingling when on 10ius. But when looking in the mirror you notice changes

 

[Pigsy]

I purchased 200 IU of HGH from @BigBoyLabs and used it last night and tonight, injecting 5 IU each time. However, I strongly believe the product is fake. Here’s why:

For the past month, I’ve been injecting 5 IU of HGH every night from a different, verified vendor. About an hour and a half after each injection, I would feel extremely tired, sleepy, and unable to stay awake. The effect was so strong that I could barely walk.

While using that HGH, I placed an order for 200 IU from @BigBoyLabs. When my previous supply ran out, I started using the new one last night. After injecting, I felt absolutely nothing. The same thing happened tonight—no effects at all.

Additionally, the vials are of very poor quality. When I try to remove the cap, the entire cap, including the rubber seal, comes off, leaving the vial completely open. I also noticed that all the vials are filled with air. I checked a few at random, and they don’t create suction when injecting needle. Similarly, there’s no need to push air into the vial to withdraw the liquid because they are already filled with air.

I sent a private message to @BigBoyLabs, but they haven’t bothered to respond.

On another forum, several people have also mentioned that they suspect @BigBoyLabs' HGH is fake.

I ordered from them because they are listed as a verified supplier and even hold VIP status on this EVO forum.

I could take a blood test to prove my claim, but why should I waste another $200 when I can already tell the product is not working? I’ve already lost $500.

To the EVO admin team: I urge you to investigate this issue. I have completely lost trust in the so-called "trusted list."

Note: Please note, I have nothing against @BigBoyLabs personally, in fact I even did not know them at all. This is just my first time with them.

And can you post everything your running at this present moment please

 

[BigBoyLabs]

Hi mate

Just seen your message on Threema. I understand your concern with the product however I wish you'd given us a little time more than a few hours to reply on a Saturday evening.

On the back of reading this, we will be both sending off for fresh HPLC and having an independent third party complete blood testing.

Please let us know if you would like to return your remaining vials in exchange for a refund.

BBL