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If it's under the skin injected, how often should testosterone enanthate be injected?
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GoldenPlague
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Why?
GoldenPlague
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Yes, most likely I will do daily injections for some time.
lol yup
Because doing it the wrong way will absolutely fuck u up... trust me, if it can happen doing it the correct way it has an even greater chance of going badly doing it the wrong way .
it depends on multiple factors..........
I’ve never injected subQ. IM is the tried and true method, I like to make sure I’m getting that oil deep into the muscle. 27g 1inch does the trick for glutes for me. Painless. I have read that subQ can cause irritation due to the solvent sitting under the tissue.
I believe aspirating is old science, correct me if I’m wrong senior members, but I’m not sure of a single person that aspirates anymore.
I believe aspirating is old science, correct me if I’m wrong senior members, but I’m not sure of a single person that aspirates anymore.
I just keep it simple. Pin IM, 1-2 times per week with long esters.
Make sure its deep in the muscle!!
Not for ages
I find no difference in anything going subq vs im. Bloods, pain, feels. It’s all the same.
Exactly. Neither sub-q nor IM change the ester half life. The ONLY issue with sub-q is volume of liquid. Easily remedied by pinning more than once when it's required.
Ditto absorption based on how much fat GP has (or claims he has)
Of course we ALL KNOW it's purely theoretical for him
GoldenPlague
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Okay, thanks.
So, in both cases, the outcome will be the same, and IM is recommended only when the volume is high, ok? But I'm planning to inject daily (testosterone propionate with short half-life), meaning sub-q will be just fine, ok?
Dude just be a man and inject eod with a 3/4 inch needle into the quads and delts. Heck u can use an insulin syringe if you are scared. The amounts you’re using is tiny.
Exactly. If you need to spread a days dose into two injections just switch needles in between for safety.
Nope. Never said that.
And I think your plan is, as before, something of a logic fail. Strange (again as before) considering how highly you regard yourself (based off of your own comments and I say that as a somewhat immodest person myself). Here's why:
1) Test prop - is well known to sting. Indeed any prop. The shorter the ester the great chance of it being painful.
2) I'd hazard a well educated guess that it has a greater chance of stinging more sub-q than IM.
I 'kinda' get your skewed logic of as to why you wanna daily sub-q a shorter ester... the idea of having perfectly level test levels. But I previously explained why that's pretty much pointless. I'll address those for the benefit of others reading:
1) Normally day to day, even hour to hour variation of testosterone. Like how it and other hormones are part of what wakes you. How being out on a warm day vs a cold day will affect it and so on. All that vs trying to have constant and steady levels. Impossible. See 2)
2) Even with an approximate half life of 19 hours (see below) you'll slowly add to what's left in the system with daily pinning - The terminal half-life of testosterone propionate is approximately 19 hours, and thus suggested injection intervals are every 2–3 days to achieve maintained therapeutic response (7).14 Apr 2020 (from NIH). To muddy the water we see too many variations in half lives to make that 100% accurate.
3) And, finally, as I've pointed out before you're trying to out think 60+ years of use and roughly 30+ years of TRT. There are good practical reasons as to why choices have been made. I'll ignore the fiscal ones some poor clinics make.
4) Precisely what do you think to achieve with what amounts to a flat line test level? Beyond what you said (manly jaw etc) before.
Or jab in the am and pm etc etc lol
No idea why I never thought of that. No brainer, really.
I prefer subq but am fine with im as well. It’s really not a big deal.
As I say to GP it's over thinking in terms of TRT and daily sub-q. I only added the idea of am and pm jabbing cos it hadn't been mentioned.
As someone who has a chemistry master's degree, I have to point out that you are wrong, I don't know about the UGL test E. The pharma level of the test E half-life is 4-4.5 days.
Here is this book called "The Leydig Cell as a Target for Male Contraception". Page 423. I got it in my university's library
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