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wilko44

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I'm dealing with a serious problem, and I know some of you have unparalleled knowledge on these issues, so I thought I would come here for advice.

A little preface: I have used PEDs (AAS, peptides, and sarms) intermittently for about 4 years now. Being a former athlete mainly for the performance effects, recovery, and mental aspects. I had never done long-time cruises until now, just cycles of between 10-14 weeks, and had always run AI’s and a full PCT regime after (clomid nolvadex, HCG coming off). I cannot remember the full cycles in exact detail, but I did do research and followed advice on here fairly strictly.

Anyway, I sustained an injury about a year ago, and got on the test to build my fitness, recovery, and general well-being back up. At the time I was doing 500mg a week for 10 weeks and also added 40mg of anavar for 4 weeks to help with white tissue. I then decided to stay on a light cruise of test, at around 250mg a week. I maintained using an AI during the cruise/TRT (listening to my body) but did not incorporate a SERM. I had my bloods done prior with the results.
  • Test: 32.7 nmol/L
  • SHBG: 47 nmol/L
  • Free test: 525 pmol/L
  • Cortisol: 388 nmol/L
  • FSH: 3 IU/L
  • LH: 2 IU/L
  • Oestradiol: 81 pmol/L
  • Progesterone: 1 nmol/L
  • Prolactin: 110 mIU/L
  • DHEA Sulphate: 8.9 umol/L
I had my bloods done again, and my FSH and LH have crashed. I have a new partner, and we have been talking about reproducing (having kids and a family is literally something I really want). So I decided to take a semen analysis to see the effects. Turns out I have a decent load size haha but absolutely zero sperm. This put me into an absolute panic and felt like my whole life purpose had been ripped from me. My bloods are below.

  • Test: 73.6 nmol/L
  • SHBG: 35 nmol/L
  • Free test: 2009 pmol/L
  • Cortisol: 592 nmol/L
  • FSH: < 1 IU/L
  • LH: < 1 IU/L
  • Oestradiol: 66 pmol/L
  • Progesterone: 3 nmol/L
  • Prolactin: 340 mIU/L
  • DHEA Sulphate: 10.6 umol/L

Everything else, liver, blood cells, etc., is in range.

I saw a doctor and have a referral to a fertility clinic. At the moment I have 5000iu of HCG on me, about 20x20mg tamoxifen, and a shitload of Exemestane, test and cjc1295, Ipamorelin (not taking it all, just have on hand) I knew I was needing a break for the TRT regime prior to learning about my zero sperm count, but this has thrown a complete spanner in the works. I got the peptides to help retain some athletic performance and recovery coming off the test prior to finding out my complication. I have done a lot of reading, but I am hoping to find some help in understanding the best way to restore my reproductive system. (I have read HCG is no good and HMG is better) It’s a bugger because I absolutely love the benefits from TRT (mental clarity, sex drive, motivation, recovery, etc.) Any advice and insight is appreciated.
 
I'm dealing with a serious problem, and I know some of you have unparalleled knowledge on these issues, so I thought I would come here for advice.

A little preface: I have used PEDs (AAS, peptides, and sarms) intermittently for about 4 years now. Being a former athlete mainly for the performance effects, recovery, and mental aspects. I had never done long-time cruises until now, just cycles of between 10-14 weeks, and had always run AI’s and a full PCT regime after (clomid nolvadex, HCG coming off). I cannot remember the full cycles in exact detail, but I did do research and followed advice on here fairly strictly.

Anyway, I sustained an injury about a year ago, and got on the test to build my fitness, recovery, and general well-being back up. At the time I was doing 500mg a week for 10 weeks and also added 40mg of anavar for 4 weeks to help with white tissue. I then decided to stay on a light cruise of test, at around 250mg a week. I maintained using an AI during the cruise/TRT (listening to my body) but did not incorporate a SERM. I had my bloods done prior with the results.
  • Test: 32.7 nmol/L
  • SHBG: 47 nmol/L
  • Free test: 525 pmol/L
  • Cortisol: 388 nmol/L
  • FSH: 3 IU/L
  • LH: 2 IU/L
  • Oestradiol: 81 pmol/L
  • Progesterone: 1 nmol/L
  • Prolactin: 110 mIU/L
  • DHEA Sulphate: 8.9 umol/L
I had my bloods done again, and my FSH and LH have crashed. I have a new partner, and we have been talking about reproducing (having kids and a family is literally something I really want). So I decided to take a semen analysis to see the effects. Turns out I have a decent load size haha but absolutely zero sperm. This put me into an absolute panic and felt like my whole life purpose had been ripped from me. My bloods are below.

  • Test: 73.6 nmol/L
  • SHBG: 35 nmol/L
  • Free test: 2009 pmol/L
  • Cortisol: 592 nmol/L
  • FSH: < 1 IU/L
  • LH: < 1 IU/L
  • Oestradiol: 66 pmol/L
  • Progesterone: 3 nmol/L
  • Prolactin: 340 mIU/L
  • DHEA Sulphate: 10.6 umol/L

Everything else, liver, blood cells, etc., is in range.

I saw a doctor and have a referral to a fertility clinic. At the moment I have 5000iu of HCG on me, about 20x20mg tamoxifen, and a shitload of Exemestane, test and cjc1295, Ipamorelin (not taking it all, just have on hand) I knew I was needing a break for the TRT regime prior to learning about my zero sperm count, but this has thrown a complete spanner in the works. I got the peptides to help retain some athletic performance and recovery coming off the test prior to finding out my complication. I have done a lot of reading, but I am hoping to find some help in understanding the best way to restore my reproductive system. (I have read HCG is no good and HMG is better) It’s a bugger because I absolutely love the benefits from TRT (mental clarity, sex drive, motivation, recovery, etc.) Any advice and insight is appreciated.
@wilko44 welcome to the evolutionary.org family! 0 sperm is strange but possible.
You know recovery from TRT is a HUGE topic of interest to the community?

And btw you can recover from TRT but why does he have you on aromasin? thats dangerous and testosterone?
You just need HCG, HCGenerate, clomid and nolvadex and lower T dose
BUt maybe you dont

you know the problem? we dont know much about you past what you posted, and to get real help like full advice, we need your help!
please start a NEW thread with your LOG journal diary where you tell us about your diet training TRT cycle sleep and supplements so we can understand you as the TRT bro not just blank guessing and we can guide you from that point.

To really guide you we need more info, we need you to share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.

If you want us to really guide you, and we have 100s of years of experience between us, you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My Sperm Recovery TRT HCG PCT cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/hsc318-testosterone-trenbolone-cycle-log-part-2.90696/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-pre-cycle-diet-training-log.90712/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/supertiredwantfood-high-protein-log-female.95670/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsy-log-for-2023.87439/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/littletimetrouble-big-time-trt-log.90656/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ning-strength-staying-lean-third-cycle.96026/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/log-macs-bulk-2023.89802/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/dbol-and-test-cypionate-10-week-log.90745/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/training-log-female.90425/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pre-cycle-trt-log.90735/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/powerlifting-2023-2024-cycle-log-female.95657/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/mobsters-training-diary.84438/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidragewife-female-training-log.95769/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-2023-2024-bulk-log.89292/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/princedaddy-2023-log-here-we-go-again.87659/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-cycle-training-log.86383/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/dozers-journey-to-the-stage-and-cycle.84184/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidrage69-log.90127
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/first-time-tren-log.87653/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/25homes-revenge-transformation-log-2023.88570/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...n-season-sponsored-by-nordic-fusion-log.89817
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-anavar-rad140-cardarine-cycle-log.86174/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/contest-peak-cycle-this-year.85007/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/new-cycle.84662/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/summer-bulking-cycle.85543/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/lefr34ks-training-log.85141/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsys-training-log.83248/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/echos-hgh-log-and-cycle.85429/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-cycle-log.85538/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/

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clomid and vitamin E are the ONLY stack that has clinically proven to help male fertility

hcg is something i would not go near until it was a last gasp situation where you are trying for 1 more time and going for broke
 
I cant even imagine try to recover from TRT and going no trt and taking hcg and clomid. you have to feel horrible
 
I cant even imagine try to recover from TRT and going no trt and taking hcg and clomid. you have to feel horrible
Yes. True TRT is for LIFE and here's proof.
 
HMG is the KEY to the fertility protocol.. its HMG, HCG and clomid but HMG is the most important aspect of the protocol... i have seen this work so many times for people but fertility clinics will only tell you about hcg and clomid, which is going to be quite difficult when there is a serious fertility problem
 
bros you should definitely get a log going
and definitely post up any blood work that you have so we get an idea of where you're at
 
LOG LOG LOG
it's very important to know what fertility issues that you're having
you can get tested either by buying a kid and doing at home or going to a clinic
 
a fertility log is something we haven't seen on here yet
that would be a wonderful thing for you to do and we could all learn from it
 
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definitely get your log up and going
there is no one size fits all when it comes to fertility everyone's gonna have a different experience
 
if you're at a point where your fertility is at zero then you need to throw the kitchen sink at the issue
but if you're in a situation where things are so so then don't do that quite yet
 
monstro says log your experience
this way you will know exactly what's going on and how you can change things
 
Let this thread be proof of, yet again, the way we start to think of fertility as actually being a kinda big deal
Absolutely right
 
Hey guys!

I really appreciate all your willingness to help and I will definitely get a log going and keep my fertility journey log going.

I don’t have the capacity to discuss it interpersonally right now So I’m going to be super vulnerable here..

I’ve always wanted kids, like really wanted kids. After retiring from professional sports, I had a bit of an identity crisis after suddenly losing my purpose. I did some serious soul searching and working towards a family has pretty much been my soul purpose since, it’s everything I have worked towards in the last 5/6 years (university, getting a good income, establishing my self).

So yeah, when I found it out, as you could imagine I was absolutely beside myself. I felt like I’d lost that purpose once again. I’ve done some serious research and I’ve regained a bit of hope.

So when I say I appreciate the help, I really do mean it.

I did do a sperm test and the results are below.

Collection Time . . . . . . . . . .: 8:04am
Examination Time. . . . . . . . . .: 8:54am
Specimen volume . . . . . . . . . .: 4.0 mL
Presence of agglutination . . . . .: 0%
* Spermatozoa count . . . . . . . . .: 0.00 million/mL (> 14.90)
* Absolute count. . . . . . . . . . .: 0.00 million (> 38.90)

I thought there had to be a mistake… but there isn’t.

I work 15 days straight at 12+ hours a day. So it may take some time to get an accurate log established. (I want it to be as good as it can)

But in the mean time what would everyone suggest I obtain. I’m not saying I’m going to take them, and I’m willing to purchase with out use. I just want to have the products on hand ready to go straight away once we figure this out.

HCG
Clomid
HMG?

Cheers once again.
 
Hey guys!

I really appreciate all your willingness to help and I will definitely get a log going and keep my fertility journey log going.

I don’t have the capacity to discuss it interpersonally right now So I’m going to be super vulnerable here..

I’ve always wanted kids, like really wanted kids. After retiring from professional sports, I had a bit of an identity crisis after suddenly losing my purpose. I did some serious soul searching and working towards a family has pretty much been my soul purpose since, it’s everything I have worked towards in the last 5/6 years (university, getting a good income, establishing my self).

So yeah, when I found it out, as you could imagine I was absolutely beside myself. I felt like I’d lost that purpose once again. I’ve done some serious research and I’ve regained a bit of hope.

So when I say I appreciate the help, I really do mean it.

I did do a sperm test and the results are below.

Collection Time . . . . . . . . . .: 8:04am
Examination Time. . . . . . . . . .: 8:54am
Specimen volume . . . . . . . . . .: 4.0 mL
Presence of agglutination . . . . .: 0%
* Spermatozoa count . . . . . . . . .: 0.00 million/mL (> 14.90)
* Absolute count. . . . . . . . . . .: 0.00 million (> 38.90)

I thought there had to be a mistake… but there isn’t.

I work 15 days straight at 12+ hours a day. So it may take some time to get an accurate log established. (I want it to be as good as it can)

But in the mean time what would everyone suggest I obtain. I’m not saying I’m going to take them, and I’m willing to purchase with out use. I just want to have the products on hand ready to go straight away once we figure this out.

HCG
Clomid
HMG?

Cheers once again.
@wilko44 I would say this, dont worry first start your LOG journal in a NEW thread, see directions
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/infertility-issues.97506/post-1465452

from there we can talk about using clomid or hmg
i honestly would mix Fadogia based HCGenerate with clomid and tamoxifen or not ? maybe not, I have to see your LOG first
 
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