Insulin Dosage

[bailey21]

For you guys out there with experience with insulin I have a question. I have been running HGH for about 3 months now and have been using the rule with insulin usage of 4 weeks on and 4 weeks off. I have figured out my carb intake at 5ius post workout and feel great on it. What are your recommendations of how much I should use and when to receive maximum results now that I have managed my carb/sugar intake? BTW I use Insulin R.

 

[gearhead]

don't go over 3 IUs per day bro....

 

[25express]

(Sigh)....

 

[diesel707]

don't go over 3 IUs per day bro....

Where does that come from? Twice a week I take 8 iu per meal and pre and post workout. Advice given by an ex mr O.


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[diesel707]

(Sigh)....

Look we know your stand on it and mine. If someone is going to use it either help or don't post in my opinion. Not meaning harm just saying my views are far different from yours.


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[bailey21]

Diesel do I need to up it from 5ius. I have been taking it three days a week.

 

[diesel707]

No you don't need to up it don't want to risk needing to over eat. How many grams of carbs and proteins do you have when you take it? What kind of slin as well?


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[JackSteel]

That's a decent dose. I wouldn't raise it unless you want to increase your calorie intake as well.


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[bailey21]

I take 5ius insulin R right after workout. Immediately after injection I take in 80 grams carbs and 40 grams protein. 90 minutes after injection I take in 80 grams carbs and 50 grams protein. 3-4 hours after injection I take in 100 grams carbs and 80 grams protein.

 

[25express]

I take 5ius insulin R right after workout. Immediately after injection I take in 80 grams carbs and 40 grams protein. 90 minutes after injection I take in 80 grams carbs and 50 grams protein. 3-4 hours after injection I take in 100 grams carbs and 80 grams protein.

Novolin or humulin R don't peak until about 2 hours after injection and lasts about 5 hours. Think about it like a mountain peak. You inject, your working your way up the mountain, it peaks around 2 hours, and the effects go back down the mountain. It's almost a perfect bell shaped mountain.

So how your dosing it the injected insulin is really only coming into play for the meal that occurs 90 min post injection.

If you really wanted to utilize your insulin injections you should do an injection 90 minutes before each meal. If you are exercising pretty hard use a ratio of 1 unit for every 25 carbs...that's higher than what you've heard but its in line with someone who very active...if your counting your carbs right that should also keep you from experiencing significant hypo blood sugars.

So if you eat 80 carbs that's 3.2 u. If you eat 100 carbs that's 4 units. If you eat 50 carbs that's 2 u. Totaling almost 10 units a day, twice what you're taking now...but that would actually be safer than what your doing now.

I would be very careful with how your timing all this with your workouts. Cardio will bring your blood sugar down slowly, heavy weight will spike it for a little bit and then bring it sown very quickly. So if you take an injection 90 minutes before you eat and that's in the middle of your workout, you might be setting yourself up to getting low blood sugars.

Like diesel said, I made it pretty clear how I don't see a benefit to doing all this...but if you are going to do it at least be safe. And if you worried about having to inject yourself 3 times instead of once,...just imagine being diabetic and doing in 12 times a day.

Do you have a blood sugar meter?

 

[bailey21]

Novolin or humulin R don't peak until about 2 hours after injection and lasts about 5 hours. Think about it like a mountain peak. You inject, your working your way up the mountain, it peaks around 2 hours, and the effects go back down the mountain. It's almost a perfect bell shaped mountain.

So how your dosing it the injected insulin is really only coming into play for the meal that occurs 90 min post injection.

If you really wanted to utilize your insulin injections you should do an injection 90 minutes before each meal. If you are exercising pretty hard use a ratio of 1 unit for every 25 carbs...that's higher than what you've heard but its in line with someone who very active...if your counting your carbs right that should also keep you from experiencing significant hypo blood sugars.

So if you eat 80 carbs that's 3.2 u. If you eat 100 carbs that's 4 units. If you eat 50 carbs that's 2 u. Totaling almost 10 units a day, twice what you're taking now...but that would actually be safer than what your doing now.

I would be very careful with how your timing all this with your workouts. Cardio will bring your blood sugar down slowly, heavy weight will spike it for a little bit and then bring it sown very quickly. So if you take an injection 90 minutes before you eat and that's in the middle of your workout, you might be setting yourself up to getting low blood sugars.

Like diesel said, I made it pretty clear how I don't see a benefit to doing all this...but if you are going to do it at least be safe. And if you worried about having to inject yourself 3 times instead of once,...just imagine being diabetic and doing in 12 times a day.

Do you have a blood sugar meter?

No I do not but I can get one. Thanks for the info

 

[Mateo123]

Novolin or humulin R don't peak until about 2 hours after injection and lasts about 5 hours. Think about it like a mountain peak. You inject, your working your way up the mountain, it peaks around 2 hours, and the effects go back down the mountain. It's almost a perfect bell shaped mountain.

So how your dosing it the injected insulin is really only coming into play for the meal that occurs 90 min post injection.

If you really wanted to utilize your insulin injections you should do an injection 90 minutes before each meal. If you are exercising pretty hard use a ratio of 1 unit for every 25 carbs...that's higher than what you've heard but its in line with someone who very active...if your counting your carbs right that should also keep you from experiencing significant hypo blood sugars.

So if you eat 80 carbs that's 3.2 u. If you eat 100 carbs that's 4 units. If you eat 50 carbs that's 2 u. Totaling almost 10 units a day, twice what you're taking now...but that would actually be safer than what your doing now.

I would be very careful with how your timing all this with your workouts. Cardio will bring your blood sugar down slowly, heavy weight will spike it for a little bit and then bring it sown very quickly. So if you take an injection 90 minutes before you eat and that's in the middle of your workout, you might be setting yourself up to getting low blood sugars.

Like diesel said, I made it pretty clear how I don't see a benefit to doing all this...but if you are going to do it at least be safe. And if you worried about having to inject yourself 3 times instead of once,...just imagine being diabetic and doing in 12 times a day.

Do you have a blood sugar meter?

Good posts. To reiterated what 25express said YOU DONT WANT TO BE PEAKING WHILE WORKING OUT. That is hypo city!!!! IF you are very disciplined and can time it perfectly you will be peaking right after your workout which means you have about 10 minutes before going HYPO. I take it you doint have access to Perscription fast acting inuslin. Fast acting insulin is in your blood within 10MINUTES This IMO is so much easier to control. You finish workout take your shot, eat your big carb meal and its already peaking. Pros and cons. Pros: Fast acting is IN AN OUT. It goes to town RIGHT AWAY and starts metabolising carbs and likewise is out of your systerm much faster too. Con: YOU BETTER MAKE SURE YOUR READY TO EAT BECAUSE IF NOT IN ABOUT 10 MINUTES YOUR FUCKED.