Interesting Cycle and your thoughts + hormone results

[0xhex]

Hello guys,



I do =>

1. Week
(Boldenon) 600

2.Week
(Boldenon) 600

3.Week
(Boldenon) 600
DECA 400

4.Week
DECA 600

5.Week
DECA 600
RIMOBOLAN 300

6.Week
RIMOBOLAN 300

7.Week
RIMOBOLAN 400
BOLDENON 400

8.Week
BOLDENON 600

9.Week
BOLDENON 600

10.Week
DECA 600
RIMO 300



I am at the 7. week of the cycle and I am sharing the hormone results,i feel low libido,it is reason of high prolactin? and should I use cabaser?

 

[stevesmi]

High prolactin extends the refractory period. It may not necessarily cause a boost in libido the way you think

Your issue here is you are not using a dht with nandrolone. This causes an imbalance of dhn vs dht in the body

So get on proviron asap.

Also this cycle is missing an androgen. Now that is okay but if you react well with libido thanks to an androgen and ur cycle is just mild things of course libido will drop

 

[0xhex]

High prolactin extends the refractory period. It may not necessarily cause a boost in libido the way you think

Your issue here is you are not using a dht with nandrolone. This causes an imbalance of dhn vs dht in the body

So get on proviron asap.

Also this cycle is missing an androgen. Now that is okay but if you react well with libido thanks to an androgen and ur cycle is just mild things of course libido will drop

Yup, that is definitely true my refractory period is extended.Actually my libido was so perfect 2. and 3. week but after 3-4 week it definitely dropped.

How much piece proviron to suggest to me? 25 mg each pill, may I take 2 proviron everyday?

I did not understand your point from the last sentence, can you detail it please?

 

[0xhex]

Yup, that is definitely true my refractory period is extended.Actually my libido was so perfect 2. and 3. week but after 3-4 week it definitely dropped.

How much piece proviron to suggest to me? 25 mg each pill, may I take 2 proviron everyday?

I did not understand your point from the last sentence, can you detail it please?

also did you perceived that my SHGB decreased around %50 from normal level,

it should be between 25-30 but in the test results SHGB is 11.

 

[Mobster]

High prolactin extends the refractory period. It may not necessarily cause a boost in libido the way you think

Your issue here is you are not using a dht with nandrolone. This causes an imbalance of dhn vs dht in the body

So get on proviron asap.

Also this cycle is missing an androgen. Now that is okay but if you react well with libido thanks to an androgen and ur cycle is just mild things of course libido will drop

The opposite. The SHORTER the refractory period the quicker you'll be ready to go again.

 

[stevesmi]

Yeah I didn’t explain it clearly

High prolactin = longer refractory period
Low prolactin on caber = shorter refractory period wanting to go again

However prolactin in bloods is a dummy number. Let’s say you just had sex. Of course prolactin will rise. Ate a slice of pizza? Gambled? Had ur gf do something nice? All these and more effect neurotransmitters in the brain and dopamine

Point is this number is volatile especially in modern society where we can do what we want when we want

Bottom line though get on proviron 25mgs a day or even 50 and focus less on prolactin and more on properly balancing hormones

 

[s.gentz]

Hello guys,

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I do =>

1. Week
(Boldenon) 600

2.Week
(Boldenon) 600

3.Week
(Boldenon) 600
DECA 400

4.Week
DECA 600

5.Week
DECA 600
RIMOBOLAN 300

6.Week
RIMOBOLAN 300

7.Week
RIMOBOLAN 400
BOLDENON 400

8.Week
BOLDENON 600

9.Week
BOLDENON 600

10.Week
DECA 600
RIMO 300



I am at the 7. week of the cycle and I am sharing the hormone results,i feel low libido,it is reason of high prolactin? and should I use cabaser?

I have no idea what you are doing here? Are you switching out compounds weekly like described above ? Your adding in deca for three weeks then dropping it and then adding it back in for one week at the end?? Am i reading this right??

 

[Mobster]

I have no idea what you are doing here? Are you switching out compounds weekly like described above ? Your adding in deca for three weeks then dropping it and then adding it back in for one week at the end?? Am i reading this right??

Seems that way. Which he describes as 'interesting' vs confused and making little sense

 

[s.gentz]

Seems that way. Which he describes as 'interesting' vs confused and making little sense

His hormones have to be on a rollercoaster. Where the F would you come up with such and ineffective way to run gear??????

 

[25homes]

Hello guys,

View attachment 15250

I do =>

1. Week
(Boldenon) 600

2.Week
(Boldenon) 600

3.Week
(Boldenon) 600
DECA 400

4.Week
DECA 600

5.Week
DECA 600
RIMOBOLAN 300

6.Week
RIMOBOLAN 300

7.Week
RIMOBOLAN 400
BOLDENON 400

8.Week
BOLDENON 600

9.Week
BOLDENON 600

10.Week
DECA 600
RIMO 300



I am at the 7. week of the cycle and I am sharing the hormone results,i feel low libido,it is reason of high prolactin? and should I use cabaser?

bro what are you even doing here.......Did you do any research

 

[0xhex]

Hey guys, please keep calm,
this cycle plan has been written by Tuluğ TOPA ,father of bodybuilding in Turquia you can research him.I constantly am in contact with him, i just have some libido problems right now and wanted to your thoughts.



I gained + 4 kg without fatty in 7 week!
from 85 kg to 89 kg.

you can watch my current form on that video

Today I perceived that I have very low libido!
I started proviron today let's see the changes. also took 1 cabaser 0.5 mg yesterday...

 

[Mobster]

Hey guys, please keep calm,
this cycle plan has been written by Tuluğ TOPA ,father of bodybuilding in Turquia you can research him.I constantly am in contact with him, i just have some libido problems right now and wanted to your thoughts.

View attachment 15265

I gained + 4 kg without fatty in 7 week!
from 85 kg to 89 kg.

you can watch my current form on that video

Today I perceived that I have very low libido!
I started proviron today let's see the changes. also took 1 cabaser 0.5 mg yesterday...

As I have asked in other threads - why then, when this coach is so reputed, aren't you asking him for advice? It's becoming very common, regardless of where the member lives to take advice from a coach (often paid for at great expense) only to then come here and check on that advice.

I suspect it's as simple as this (and I say this as I've seen it in person many times) - Joe goes to gym, Joe wants to grow etc. Joe's gym owning buddy (or coach / former pro etc) offers a cycle. Said cycle contains enough gear for a Bull. Also as often the advisor sells Joe what he needs. NOTHING is thought about side effects.

The cycle as is has you on/off one PED every couple of weeks (as it is written). So naturally there are peaks and troughs of hormonal activity.

 

[dylangemelli]

right and those are generally the LAST people you should listen to .. i just had to dedicate an entire video discussing how you should NOT listen to "pros" and "coaches" because of how clueless they are... ANYONE can tell you to run a million different compounds knowing they could show you results without caring whatsoever about your health and you are now seeing how horribly prepared and misinformed you were.. your prolactin is through the roof... 20 is the really high end but most see issues when its in the mid to upper teens, you are DOUBLE that... this was just managed and planned terribly and the advice you were given, as i have been so adamant about with "pros" and coaches, holds true as horrific... you are telling people to "calm down" when they are trying to help you.. you dont know what you are doing and this is what happens...

 

[0xhex]

Of course I asked him that situation,i dont like depend on only 1 person whoever is he. how reputed.

I like listening other ideas from other people,so I can filter ideas from my mind and make the most logical act.

 

[s.gentz]

Hey guys, please keep calm,
this cycle plan has been written by Tuluğ TOPA ,father of bodybuilding in Turquia you can research him.I constantly am in contact with him, i just have some libido problems right now and wanted to your thoughts.

View attachment 15265

I gained + 4 kg without fatty in 7 week!
from 85 kg to 89 kg.

you can watch my current form on that video

Today I perceived that I have very low libido!
I started proviron today let's see the changes. also took 1 cabaser 0.5 mg yesterday...

I would love to hear the "father of bodybuilding" explanation of this cycle. It makes 0 sense. Just keep drugs in your body for 10-12 weeks? Who cares about half lives or the rollercoaster your hormones are on???
As Mob said. If he is coaching you why ask us advice?

 

[0xhex]

I just said "keep calm" to people that what kind of cycle is this.
I respect every idea that trying to help me.

but the question => what kind of is this cycle you know what the hell are you doing?

is not helpful if you say why it is not logical that will be helpful.

 

[s.gentz]

right and those are generally the LAST people you should listen to .. i just had to dedicate an entire video discussing how you should NOT listen to "pros" and "coaches" because of how clueless they are... ANYONE can tell you to run a million different compounds knowing they could show you results without caring whatsoever about your health and you are now seeing how horribly prepared and misinformed you were.. your prolactin is through the roof... 20 is the really high end but most see issues when its in the mid to upper teens, you are DOUBLE that... this was just managed and planned terribly and the advice you were given, as i have been so adamant about with "pros" and coaches, holds true as horrific... you are telling people to "calm down" when they are trying to help you.. you dont know what you are doing and this is what happens...

I've seen some weird cycles over the years but i think this guys cycle plan is the worst. I can't imagine a situation where this makes any sense. But WTF do i know? Would love to hear from his explanation of this.

 

[0xhex]

main goal is for this cycle plan is being active every receptor.

I tried 12 week sustanon / rimobolan that sucks, i just gained water.

i am sure this cycle better than every other cycle in my case.

this is my 10. cycle I have been doing this 10 years.

I gained + 4kg lean muscle without water!

 

[Mobster]

I just said "keep calm" to people that what kind of cycle is this.
I respect every idea that trying to help me.

but the question => what kind of is this cycle you know what the hell are you doing?

is not helpful if you say why it is not logical that will be helpful.

We saw. Doesn't mean we obey.

The receptor thing is over done.

Truth is you did VERY well to gain 4kg or about 9lbs in 7 weeks. More so if you've done 10 cycles in 10 years. I DID look at your insta video. You have a nicely muscular physique. Just what did you look like at the start (10 years ago) and how much have you gained from 10 cycles?

And, as I asked above, why not ask your coach? That picture of him is, of course, some years old.

Finally, if we can't make sense of the cycle how can we then not ask why you wouldn't then have problems such as those you ARE experiencing.

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I would love to hear the "father of bodybuilding" explanation of this cycle. It makes 0 sense. Just keep drugs in your body for 10-12 weeks? Who cares about half lives or the rollercoaster your hormones are on???
As Mob said. If he is coaching you why ask us advice?

I've seen this said often. It's become an honorific title of sorts. Like 'master of sports' in Russian States. Usually given freely if not always officially as a result of some success. Heck even I've been called a 'legend' because of my grip feats and grip competitions wins. Nice but not exactly that big of a deal lol

 

[0xhex]

i was 57 kg when I started,
I did it 2 years naturally and gained 15 kg without steroids
up to 72 kg

after 2 years later I started averagely yearly 1 cycle. I mean 1 cycle per year.

year by year ,I up to 72 kg to 89 kg.but I can definitely say that latest 3-4 cycle I gained nothing.