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Is this cycle to much, am I over doing it?

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First post. Hope this is correct. And thanks in advance for the help and advice.

Facts and stats:

50 years old
185 lbs
around 13% BF

Two cycles under my belt already, not including SARM only cycles.
First cycle was 50mg of tbol and 500mg of test-e
Second cycle was 600-800mg of test-e, 80 mg of anavar

I got down to 10.9% (based on DEXA scan), then went to Mexico for 2 weeks to lay on beach so I'm estimating 13% bf now (been dieting since back). I'm trying to get back down to the 11% bf by end of March (will do another DEXA scan then). Then I want to do a bulking cycle for 14 weeks (I'm time boxed to 14 weeks, I think I can keep taking test-e but traveling with the other gear, I'll be asking about, makes me nervous). After the 14 weeks I'll get another DEXA to see how much fat and muscle I have gained. Hopefully the fat will be minimal.

Diet I will aim for 3000-3500 cals per day. With at least 200g of protein, try to keep the fat in check. And of course carbs.
Cals i will have to monitor. My BMR is 1800-1900, I play a lot of squash (5 days a week) and weights 4-5 times a week. My Garmin watch tells me I burn 3000 per day on squash and weight days plus or minus 200. So 3500 may not be enough.

OK now to the issue at hand. Here is my proposed bulking cycle

Test-E (500 - 600mg/week) for the entire cycle, will try to take with me to extend beyond 14 weeks
Deca (400mg/week) for 14 weeks
Equipoise (600mg/week for 14 weeks)
Dbol (40-50mg/day) for 6 weeks
Proviron (50mg/day) the entire cycle.
Aromasin (12.5mg EOD) is this enough?
Cabergoline (0.25 EOD) is this enough?

I also have Anavar left over and am considering switching to it after the 6 week of dbol for the rest of the cycle.

I know this is a very wet and very aggressive cycle.

Is it bat sh*t crazy aggressive?
 
First post. Hope this is correct. And thanks in advance for the help and advice.

Facts and stats:

50 years old
185 lbs
around 13% BF

Two cycles under my belt already, not including SARM only cycles.
First cycle was 50mg of tbol and 500mg of test-e
Second cycle was 600-800mg of test-e, 80 mg of anavar

I got down to 10.9% (based on DEXA scan), then went to Mexico for 2 weeks to lay on beach so I'm estimating 13% bf now (been dieting since back). I'm trying to get back down to the 11% bf by end of March (will do another DEXA scan then). Then I want to do a bulking cycle for 14 weeks (I'm time boxed to 14 weeks, I think I can keep taking test-e but traveling with the other gear, I'll be asking about, makes me nervous). After the 14 weeks I'll get another DEXA to see how much fat and muscle I have gained. Hopefully the fat will be minimal.

Diet I will aim for 3000-3500 cals per day. With at least 200g of protein, try to keep the fat in check. And of course carbs.
Cals i will have to monitor. My BMR is 1800-1900, I play a lot of squash (5 days a week) and weights 4-5 times a week. My Garmin watch tells me I burn 3000 per day on squash and weight days plus or minus 200. So 3500 may not be enough.

OK now to the issue at hand. Here is my proposed bulking cycle

Test-E (500 - 600mg/week) for the entire cycle, will try to take with me to extend beyond 14 weeks
Deca (400mg/week) for 14 weeks
Equipoise (600mg/week for 14 weeks)
Dbol (40-50mg/day) for 6 weeks
Proviron (50mg/day) the entire cycle.
Aromasin (12.5mg EOD) is this enough?
Cabergoline (0.25 EOD) is this enough?

I also have Anavar left over and am considering switching to it after the 6 week of dbol for the rest of the cycle.

I know this is a very wet and very aggressive cycle.

Is it bat sh*t crazy aggressive?
@Kafka welcome to the evolutionary.org BIG family!

To be fair thats a BIG cycle, almost 2 grams of steroids (2000mgs!) thats huge but you can do it.
The problem is what you shared about yourself isn't much, we need to know more about you honestly.

Like imagine, we tell you go use 2 grams of steroids and never even knew or saw your LOG, irresponsible and just guessing, it would be generic answers with no log.
You should start a NEW thread with your LOG Journal diary, we can do pre cycle talk, share detailed training, diet, supps, sleep and your lifestyle so we can talk about your cycle more.

To really guide you we need more info, we need you to share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.

If you want us to really guide you, and we have 100s of years of experience between us, you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My Pre-Bulking cycle Prep Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/hsc318-testosterone-trenbolone-cycle-log-part-2.90696/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-pre-cycle-diet-training-log.90712/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/supertiredwantfood-high-protein-log-female.95670/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsy-log-for-2023.87439/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/littletimetrouble-big-time-trt-log.90656/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ning-strength-staying-lean-third-cycle.96026/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/log-macs-bulk-2023.89802/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/dbol-and-test-cypionate-10-week-log.90745/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/training-log-female.90425/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pre-cycle-trt-log.90735/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/powerlifting-2023-2024-cycle-log-female.95657/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/mobsters-training-diary.84438/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidragewife-female-training-log.95769/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-2023-2024-bulk-log.89292/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/princedaddy-2023-log-here-we-go-again.87659/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-cycle-training-log.86383/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/dozers-journey-to-the-stage-and-cycle.84184/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidrage69-log.90127
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/first-time-tren-log.87653/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/25homes-revenge-transformation-log-2023.88570/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...n-season-sponsored-by-nordic-fusion-log.89817
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-anavar-rad140-cardarine-cycle-log.86174/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/contest-peak-cycle-this-year.85007/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/new-cycle.84662/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/summer-bulking-cycle.85543/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/lefr34ks-training-log.85141/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsys-training-log.83248/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/echos-hgh-log-and-cycle.85429/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-cycle-log.85538/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/

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definitely get a log up
the more info you give us the better
 
that's a lot of gear and comes with a lot of responsibility and side effects
I think you might be over complicating things a little bit maybe drop dbol
 
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this one will be awesome, looking forward to it
will be an epic log to follow
 
this will be an awesome log to follow
but make sure you post up your full picture so we see
 
monstros says that you could turn pro with those dosing
it's a lot of good stuff make sure you update us with a log
 
its a big cycle for a big guy
i hope you using para pharma gear
 
First post. Hope this is correct. And thanks in advance for the help and advice.

Facts and stats:

50 years old
185 lbs
around 13% BF

Two cycles under my belt already, not including SARM only cycles.
First cycle was 50mg of tbol and 500mg of test-e
Second cycle was 600-800mg of test-e, 80 mg of anavar

I got down to 10.9% (based on DEXA scan), then went to Mexico for 2 weeks to lay on beach so I'm estimating 13% bf now (been dieting since back). I'm trying to get back down to the 11% bf by end of March (will do another DEXA scan then). Then I want to do a bulking cycle for 14 weeks (I'm time boxed to 14 weeks, I think I can keep taking test-e but traveling with the other gear, I'll be asking about, makes me nervous). After the 14 weeks I'll get another DEXA to see how much fat and muscle I have gained. Hopefully the fat will be minimal.

Diet I will aim for 3000-3500 cals per day. With at least 200g of protein, try to keep the fat in check. And of course carbs.
Cals i will have to monitor. My BMR is 1800-1900, I play a lot of squash (5 days a week) and weights 4-5 times a week. My Garmin watch tells me I burn 3000 per day on squash and weight days plus or minus 200. So 3500 may not be enough.

OK now to the issue at hand. Here is my proposed bulking cycle

Test-E (500 - 600mg/week) for the entire cycle, will try to take with me to extend beyond 14 weeks
Deca (400mg/week) for 14 weeks
Equipoise (600mg/week for 14 weeks)
Dbol (40-50mg/day) for 6 weeks
Proviron (50mg/day) the entire cycle.
Aromasin (12.5mg EOD) is this enough?
Cabergoline (0.25 EOD) is this enough?

I also have Anavar left over and am considering switching to it after the 6 week of dbol for the rest of the cycle.

I know this is a very wet and very aggressive cycle.

Is it bat sh*t crazy aggressive?
Just considering your age alone, yes, its way too much... lets just take your age out, i would still say its completely unnecessary and way too much... theres no need for the THREE compounds AND dbol in there, not to mention its going to bring on a ton of unwanted weight gain...

the doses, for any age, are just too high, ESPECIALLY the dbol dose and LENGTH.. i would NOT exceed 4 weeks of dbol and 30 mg is MORE than enough.. you are operating on the more is better thinking and thats just not how you should look at it... on top of that, you are considering adding anavar?? so you really think its okay to run that much on orals for that long? thats IS insane... its just way too much... if you need that much shit to bulk then theres something very very wrong brother...

test, deca and eq is PLENTY on its own but even then, the test dose is thoroughly unnecessary... 350 each of test and deca with 400-500 eq is more than enough...
 
Man you just made me feel way less uneasy about my cycle mg amounts I'm at 1000mg with 3 compounds and even that to me had me nervous to start my cycle thinking it was alot then u just post up a 2000mg cycle I'm 35 you are 50 if I think 1000mg at my age is alot I don't know how you operate and don't think 2000mg at age 50 isn't alot. I wouldn't do it personally especially at that age it's harmful and u can pay a big price for it.
 
I may not have been clear, I'm not currently doing this cycle. I'm still researching it. Plan is to start a cycle on April 1st. At which time I may start a log. Thanks for all the advice so far.
 
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