Keepable gain? Tbol,Npp,Test

[Modifiedamerican]

Wanting to keep bulking up over winter. It will be the best time for me to add weight due to my job.
I don’t want water weight though. I want a cycle that is more likely for me to keep what I earn. Lean muscle tissue, not water weight. After reading and going over things, I’m thinking Tbol, npp, test.
Week (1-6) 50mg tbol
Week (1-10) 300mg npp
Week (1-10) 300-350 test cypionate.
Ai on hand, along with liver support

I do have a question. Are there any compounds that might possibly be better than Npp. For instance if I want to keep my test dosage lower at 200-250mg a week, apposed to the
300-350mg a week dosage.
As always, any help/guidance/insight is greatly appreciated.

 

[Mobster]

All are - up to a point. Obviously if I used dbol SOME part of my gains on cycle will be water and some muscle. I'm more likely to have lean gains with Var and Tbol. If only certain PEDs allowed for permanent gains and others temporary then why would we bother with the latter? It is, of course, a question of what is is BETTER and ideal.

But there are two issues.

1) I might be at my limit. I personally have been as heavy as 334lbs on cycle. The chances of me getting much bigger aren't very likely. That applies to us all.
2) Keepable gains, that percentage of what we're more likely to hang on to after a bulk / on cycle is not really down to the compound. It is, as I've covered many times, down to adjusting the training post cycle as well as the diet. If you eat what you ate to maintain what you was before then you'll revert to what you was before. Ditto training.

It's mostly a question of percentages. If I used Var and gained 8lbs and wasn't maxed out I'd keep 5-6 (also assuming food etc was tweaked). If, like some, I used Anadrol and gained an on cycle 20lbs I would NOT keep as high as a percentage as the Var.

Also - what worked before? What have you used in the past?

 

[Modifiedamerican]

I’ve used 500mg test for a 12 week cycle, also have used anavar, although I think it was bunk.
Also I was prescribed deca at a point in time. Was taking 130mg a week for joint paint. Even at 130mg a week I was getting vascular from it.
So nothing crazy. You do have a very good point about, if the compounds didn’t let you keep any gains at all, then why use them. As far as pct, I will return to my trt dosage.
I did notice at a point in time when I was using 500mg of test, for around 3 weeks, I was extremely happy, calm, sex drive and libido was amazing. Makes me wonder if I need to up my trt dosage. As far as diet, with the job I work, I can eat what ever I want. At one point in time I was working such long hours, and busting ass so hard I dropped down to 148lbs. I’m currently hovering between 180-185lbs.

 

[LittleTimeTrouble]

Nandrolones are definitely more toxic (and cheaper) than something like Primo. Some will argue that you can’t make big gains on primo, but I think it is more what Mobster said, that your gains are likely there to stay. Most AAS, for most people, are going to drive muscle growth at about the same rate w/r/t protein synthesis. They will not be equal in other ways that affect growth, like GCR binding, appetite enhancement, strength gains etc.

 

[dylangemelli]

Primo is going to have the most "keepable" gains.. they wont be as drastic of a gain but what matters is the keepability... what good is it to gain a lot to then lose it? its not good to yo yo up and down too much, as its very hard on your body internally... test, npp and tbol would be a nice cycle but in terms of keepability and side effects, i would not rank it strong in that regard...

 

[Fella Finn]

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[Modifiedamerican]

Primo is going to have the most "keepable" gains.. they wont be as drastic of a gain but what matters is the keepability... what good is it to gain a lot to then lose it? its not good to yo yo up and down too much, as its very hard on your body internally... test, npp and tbol would be a nice cycle but in terms of keepability and side effects, i would not rank it strong in that regard...

Dylan. Would recommendations would have for simple, as side effect free and more keepable gains?

 

[LevButlerov]

Wanting to keep bulking up over winter. It will be the best time for me to add weight due to my job.
I don’t want water weight though. I want a cycle that is more likely for me to keep what I earn. Lean muscle tissue, not water weight. After reading and going over things, I’m thinking Tbol, npp, test.
Week (1-6) 50mg tbol
Week (1-10) 300mg npp
Week (1-10) 300-350 test cypionate.
Ai on hand, along with liver support

I do have a question. Are there any compounds that might possibly be better than Npp. For instance if I want to keep my test dosage lower at 200-250mg a week, apposed to the
300-350mg a week dosage.
As always, any help/guidance/insight is greatly appreciated.

@Modifiedamerican I think a bit of primobolan wouldn't do much for a bulk.

I would stay with your plan 300mgs NPP 350mgs test cyp and tbol, fairly clean bulk, add proviron n2guard and aromasin to the cycle. Not just on hand, use them.

And make sure you start your new bulking log for us. I liked your other log. For new members reading this, @Modifiedamerican last log: https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/domestic-supply-testosterone-cycle-log.90011

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: Bulk testosterone NPP cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

 

[stevesmi]

slow gains in muscle tissue is gonna be very very keepable

fast gains with a lot of water is not

 

[ceo]

bros all gains are keepable but its not clear from your LOG if you do follow diets or training properly thats where gains are kept

 

[JasonPriest]

i would say yes you will keep more on that stack

 

[chesty]

anything can be kept but if your diet is off or training is off you wont keep jack

 

[Ulter]

judging by how little you updated your log not sure you will keep gains

 

[e2]

well npp and test i did that cycle and kept gains but im on trt

 

[2Thick]

if on TRT you'll keep gains, on PCT with your work load maybe not

 

[MONSTRO]

dont listen to the hate 500mgs npp 500mgs test HIT it hard and LOG it

 

[RickRock]

Thwres too many variables. What ypu keep is dependant on what you do more than anything or any compound

 

[Mobster]

Thwres too many variables. What ypu keep is dependant on what you do more than anything or any compound

This. Food and training.

 

[Modifiedamerican]

judging by how little you updated your log not sure you will keep gains

I have a life. If you would read the posts in my log, you would understand why I update the way I update it.

 

[BodyMonster34]

bro do NPP and tren, great stack for real men