Kick-starting. And also capping a cycle.

[Ferisujae]

So, there are a couple Concepts that I’ve been studying when it comes to steroid use. I’ve been using some consultations by some old school bodybuilders who I have found on facebook
They are older guys and their 70s and they have very old school methods that they say are better than the new concepts of today.
One of the methods they have is called kick-starting and that’s when you start off with a shorter Esther, the first four weeks of your cycle.
They also said that you should cap your cycle, meaning you should gradually increase the doses and then cap it at a certain number. The guy I was getting help with said You should never exceed 1000 mg a week or 10000mgs over 10 weeks. Does this make sense to you?

 

[Mobster]

Both are BS.

The third is maths

 

[LevButlerov]

So, there are a couple Concepts that I’ve been studying when it comes to steroid use. I’ve been using some consultations by some old school bodybuilders who I have found on facebook
They are older guys and their 70s and they have very old school methods that they say are better than the new concepts of today.
One of the methods they have is called kick-starting and that’s when you start off with a shorter Esther, the first four weeks of your cycle.
They also said that you should cap your cycle, meaning you should gradually increase the doses and then cap it at a certain number. The guy I was getting help with said You should never exceed 1000 mg a week or 10000mgs over 10 weeks. Does this make sense to you?

you can kick start with an oral but kick start with shorter ester means nothing

 

[Seventieschild]

No need to kickstart,even longer esters like enanthate are cleaved and released into the body/bloodstream in first 48 hours to a certain peak,then after that the rest is slowly released over the ester half life,it just takes time to reach full saturated stable blood levels,but the drug is working for you quite fast.

 

[stevesmi]

Could you imagine if professional athletes in any sport or profession followed What worked back in the 60s or 70s?

Our thinking must continue to evolve a lot of time the old-timers mean well but they really don't have much clue of what they're talking about

 

[Mobster]

As I've pointed out repeatedly lets use one example:

You CHOSE the ester. It was your plan to pick a LONGER ester. Maybe that's cos you don't like daily pinning (I'm with you on that one). So now you 'need' (at least you think you do) to get things started asap. Well you could simply chose a shorter ester of the same PED. Or... stay with me... just f'kin wait lol. The end result is the same all things being equal until proven otherwise. And I'm still waiting on that.

 

[LittleTimeTrouble]

The only way kickstarting or capping would be additive is that it simply would be more overall AAS exposure. But there are decreasing marginal effects, so it probably is not worth the extra stress on the body, if it is worth anything at all.

 

[MONSTRO]

i disagree with mobster

i love kickstarting. i will add in 100mgs of anavar or winstrol to kcikstart

 

[Vadim Fedorov]

I think everybody in this thread makes some good points on kickstarting

 

[2Thick]

old school bodybuilding is not the same as today

 

[e2]

i love to kickstart, it works well for me cause i use primo a lot

 

[StevenDarwinMD]

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[JasonPriest]

if you run along of long Esters it's important to kickstart to feel more at the start of the cycle

 

[BodyMonster34]

bro older bodybuilders clueless on this shit. it a new world

 

[Quadsweep]

i think kickstarting has merits that work. it takes 5 or 6 weeks for steroids to kick in right?

 

[Ulter]

I was one of the first people to come up with the idea to kick-start back in the 90s

 

[chesty]

kickstarting is too much stress on the body

 

[ROIDDERS]

you should kickstart if you run E or cyp, but not with prop

 

[ceo]

bros i kickstart every cycle
get it working fast!

 

[Mobster]

if you run along of long Esters it's important to kickstart to feel more at the start of the cycle

Nope. How you 'feel' on is irrelevant. If you're on TRT it is. But no one cares about it beyond a sense of well being. Which matters f'all to your biceps.