LGD-4033 + Testosterone Enanthate + Trenbolone Acetate cycle?

[NFRCR]

I am thinking of a 12-16 week cycle.

Week 1-6 LGD-4033 10mg/day
Week 3-16 Testosterone Enanthate 750mg/week
Week 7-12 Trenbolone Acetate 100mg EOD
Week 13-16 Ostarine 20mg/day

The reason I am running LGD-4033 solo for 2 weeks in the beginning is just scientific curiosity to see how it works alone.

I also want to stop Trenbolone before the cycle fully ends, perhaps PCT is easier then.

I add Ostarine in the last 4 weeks, because there are reports of it clearing androgen receptors (Trenbolone saturates them).

I am also on 25mg Exemestane and 1mg Pramipexole ED. These doses will not change unless necessary. Definitely won't lower them as I have been on them 2 years nonstop. Both pharma grade.

PCT is based on Tamoxifen. In the beginning I am also including Ostarine. Perhaps will HCGenerate.

 

[dylangemelli]

I am thinking of a 12-16 week cycle.

Week 1-6 LGD-4033 10mg/day
Week 3-16 Testosterone Enanthate 750mg/week
Week 7-12 Trenbolone Acetate 100mg EOD
Week 13-16 Ostarine 20mg/day

The reason I am running LGD-4033 solo for 2 weeks in the beginning is just scientific curiosity to see how it works alone.

I also want to stop Trenbolone before the cycle fully ends, perhaps PCT is easier then.

I add Ostarine in the last 4 weeks, because there are reports of it clearing androgen receptors (Trenbolone saturates them).

I am also on 25mg Exemestane and 1mg Pramipexole ED. These doses will not change unless necessary. Definitely won't lower them as I have been on them 2 years nonstop. Both pharma grade.

PCT is based on Tamoxifen. In the beginning I am also including Ostarine. Perhaps will HCGenerate.

Understand that LGD will take about 10-14 days to really shine. You will gradually start to see it work by the first weeks end and really start to kick towards the end of week 2. You should really run it 8-12 weeks for max results but if your wanting to experiment, 8 would be the minimum at 10 mg per day throughout. Not a fan of the test dose but love the tren dose and that should be a nice finisher... Have you used proviron? Always a great addition to any cycle. Hit your ostarine at 25 mg per day. You could run it through PCT, which I would recommend. Cycle in its entirety should show some extremely nice gains. Good luck with the cycle and keep the updates coming. I highly recommend hcgenerate es in pct and hcgenerate on cycle. Here's a piece I wrote on GW-501516 ran in conjunction with tren. http://www.evolutionary.org/combating-the-cardiovascular-side-effects-of-trenbolone-with-gw-501516/
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[NFRCR]

Thank you, Dylan. But what is your opinion on stopping tren before test? Or should it be ran until the end?

 

[dylangemelli]

Thank you, Dylan. But what is your opinion on stopping tren before test? Or should it be ran until the end?

you know brother, being that your running a longer estered test, i would run it up until the end of the cycle OR implement a muscle hardening oral at the end like a winstrol or s4... one or the other... not that you can't do it as laid out, but i would do one or the other for the MOST OPTIMAL results... either way, your getting good results but we always want max results right? =)

 

[hurricane]

I am thinking of a 12-16 week cycle.

Week 1-6 LGD-4033 10mg/day
Week 3-16 Testosterone Enanthate 750mg/week
Week 7-12 Trenbolone Acetate 100mg EOD
Week 13-16 Ostarine 20mg/day

The reason I am running LGD-4033 solo for 2 weeks in the beginning is just scientific curiosity to see how it works alone.

I also want to stop Trenbolone before the cycle fully ends, perhaps PCT is easier then.

I add Ostarine in the last 4 weeks, because there are reports of it clearing androgen receptors (Trenbolone saturates them).

I am also on 25mg Exemestane and 1mg Pramipexole ED. These doses will not change unless necessary. Definitely won't lower them as I have been on them 2 years nonstop. Both pharma grade.

PCT is based on Tamoxifen. In the beginning I am also including Ostarine. Perhaps will HCGenerate.

for starts save osta for pct. no business being included in the tale end of a strong cycle like that, much more useful and effective for pct

 

[stevesmi]

I would definitely put together a better pct than that.. you will get nice results and you don't want to blow half assing pct

 

[NFRCR]

I agree, I will look at the N2BM supplements in addition.

 

[RickRock]

PCT should look like this bro

Optimal PCT for best recovery:

Liquid Clomid 50/50/25/25 (www.ag-guys.com)
Liquid Aromasin (www.ag-guys.com)
Test Stack 17 or HCGenerate ES (PM me for info and discounts) http://w3.teststackrx.com/102.html
Ostarine 25mg per day (www.sarms1.com)

 

[NFRCR]

PCT should look like this bro

Optimal PCT for best recovery:

Liquid Clomid 50/50/25/25 (www.ag-guys.com)
Liquid Aromasin (www.ag-guys.com)
Test Stack 17 or HCGenerate ES (PM me for info and discounts) http://w3.teststackrx.com/102.html
Ostarine 25mg per day (www.sarms1.com)

Clomiphene advantage over Tamoxifen? I have read that Tamoxifen raises LH more effectively.

I already have Exemestane and Tamoxifen, original pharma grade, I have a prescription for those. I will look into HCGenerate etc.

Anyway, I started with LGD-4033 10mg/day today. I had been off Ostarine only 3 days only. Yeah I know, strange to jump into another cycle so fast, but I considered everything. I did a blood test and Testosterone was only 25% lower than baseline, so it seems this time Ostarine actually was a bit suppressive. However FSH and LH were perfect. So I would not consider it reckless. I will monitor myself on LGD-4033 a bit before making the decision to add the stronger substances.

 

[Shrine]

Ive always liked Clomid and Nolva combo

 

[NFRCR]

Ive always liked Clomid and Nolva combo

What do you like about it? Better recovery compared to both of them solo?

Currency second day on LGD-4033 10mg/day. Strength

I am itching to get on the Testosterone Enanthate already. Need to teach myself to be patient, after all I really wanted to see LGD-4033 perform solo.

I do not know about Trenbolone yet though. I will add it in the middle if I feel like it.

However, how do gains from Testosterone Enanthate compare 500mg/week vs 750mg/week? Is there any reason I would run the lower dose? Money is not an issue. Also, I am constantly on Exemestane. And I have seen my Estradiol levels after 750mg Sustanon a week, they were nice.

 

[NFRCR]

Currency second day on LGD-4033 10mg/day. Strength

Strength up a bit already.

Damn, when can I edit my posts?

 

[gymrat827]

That's a lot of prami. Esp for ur tren dose, but if that's how you roll, ok.

I would do 1-2 more pins of tes after the tren. Idk what ppl say, allow the tren to clear longer, before you hit both serms and a good t booster.


IMHO go longer on the lgd. It is a lot different 3wks into things. 4wks is just the tip. Lol.

SARMs are more powerful then guys think. S4 can act very close to mast/winny, Lgd is a great kickstart. Much much less pins to. I don't mind that. Lol.


GL bud

 

[JackSteel]

Don't forget (although you said you're on exemistane year 'round) to use AI in PCT. GW would be a fantastic addition to the cycle too man especially with the tren and in PCT


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[NFRCR]

JackSteel, yes I'm using Exemestane non-stop, including in PCT. Also thinking about adding GW, thanks.

Today is the 5th day on LGD-4033. More energy. Muscles are harder. Noticably more power at gym. As of yesterday my arms had grown 0.5cm already. Weight is up 0.5kg. Still 13% BF. Have not changed diet I think. So, it's only 5th day and showing gains. Considering it has not kicked in yet 100%, I would estimate to add 3-4cm to arms on LGD-4033 solo. However I'll be getting on the Test E pretty soon and Tren after that.

 

[NFRCR]

I've gained 1kg (2.2lbs) in 6 days on LGD-4033. Arms +0.75cm. BF is the same, perhaps even just a bit lower. This is some strong stuff.

 

[NFRCR]

In 12 days on LGD-4033 solo I gained 2.5kg (5.5lbs).

Yesterday evening started with Testosterone Enanthate. Injected 2 x 250mg in both delts. Haven't injected for a long time. My pulse must have gone up to 200BPM while doing that.

 

[NFRCR]

Additionally, some words about LGD-4033. Suppresses T more than MK-2866, ~40% in particular. SHBG suppression seems to be on the same level.

 

[NFRCR]

LGD-4033 is a very potent SARM. After two weeks arms have grown 1.5cm. And it is said LGD really starts kicking in after two weeks, so even during this buildup period it has given good gains.

I also started with Testosterone Enanthate middle of this week, injecting Wednesday and Sunday. But I'll give all the credit for current gains to LGD, would be il-logical to expect gains from Test-E in just a few days.

LGD has decreased my libido, noticed it a week after starting. Ostarine on the contrary slightly raised it. I don't know what is LGD's libido decreasing mechanism. I don't think it's just Testosterone production suppression alone, because I did a blood test and while T level was suppressed it was still above average level. Now I am just waiting for Test-E to kick in to feel the libido-increasing effects and counteract the LGD libido-decreasing effects.

Soon I will do a new blood test to see how 5 injections (5 x 250mg) of Test-E have affected my Testosterone level. If it's high already and I'm still not horny, I will discontinue LGD.

 

[NFRCR]

Five days after 500mg and one day after 250mg Test-E, libido is still quite low - as it was on LGD-4033 solo.

I will do a blood test in a week.

There could be multiple factors here.
1. Test-E has probably not kicked in yet. All I feel is a little bit more energy.
2. Estrogen is rather too low than high. On LGD my E2 dropped 20%. I am on 25mg Exemestane ED long term because I like it and also had a good stable libido on it. However, with exogenous Test testicular aromataze is eliminated and with an AI E2 levels get lower than before.
3. I also did an experiment (non-PCT) with Tamoxifen 40mg/40mg/20mg/10mg/10mg-EOD, currently at the 10-EOD week. So who knows how this tapering could affect libido now that my brain is getting more exposed to estrogens.