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Looking for Advice: Anavar Cycle vs. SARM's triple stack

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Hi everyone,

Looking for some feedback on a first cycle. My goal is to gain strength but not mass. I am in good shape but my strength gains have plateaued. Gains are small over long periods of time and recovery is could be better. My diet is clean and seems to suit me well.

Ive been doing my research on anabolics and have found Anavar to best suit my personal goals. Recently I was suggested to try the SARM's Triple Stack as an alternative.

Can you please give me some info based on knowledge and experience.

Thank you
 
bro anavar will not make you that strong at normal dose...shit maybe 100mgs ed yea...but sarms triple stack is much better at strength gains especially andarine s4...cardarine/andarine/ostarine mix is perfect for a boost in cardio and strength...
 
Hi everyone,

Looking for some feedback on a first cycle. My goal is to gain strength but not mass. I am in good shape but my strength gains have plateaued. Gains are small over long periods of time and recovery is could be better. My diet is clean and seems to suit me well.

Ive been doing my research on anabolics and have found Anavar to best suit my personal goals. Recently I was suggested to try the SARM's Triple Stack as an alternative.

Can you please give me some info based on knowledge and experience.

Thank you

Var is very strong does not aromatose and build lots of muslce actually, I tried Osta and it makes you very tired and you have vision issues, this is not just me if you Google it you will see so many other results on this
 
bro anavar will not make you that strong at normal dose...shit maybe 100mgs ed yea...but sarms triple stack is much better at strength gains especially andarine s4...cardarine/andarine/ostarine mix is perfect for a boost in cardio and strength...

The SARMs triple stack is very decent. Perhaps it will not get to Anavar's results by 100%, but I am pretty confident you will get like 90% of the possible Anavar gains with SARMs. Also, SARMs are quite an easier thing to buy, because due to the high price, many fake Anavar products are sold around the world. Whilst with SARMs you have a guaranteed supplier at sarms1.com

Var is very strong does not aromatose and build lots of muslce actually, I tried Osta and it makes you very tired and you have vision issues, this is not just me if you Google it you will see so many other results on this

All of these issues are easily controllable. Besides, the vision side effects take place with S4 Andarine, not ostarine. However, they are minor, and stop occurring in a matter of days after finishing the cycle.
 
bro anavar will not make you that strong at normal dose...shit maybe 100mgs ed yea...but sarms triple stack is much better at strength gains especially andarine s4...cardarine/andarine/ostarine mix is perfect for a boost in cardio and strength...

Not necessarily true...20 mg of Anavar dosed with 200-300 mg of caffeine >>>>>>> 100 mg of Anavar dosed without caffeine
 
Personally my cycle I am running right now of 150 mg of Test every 5 days(210 mg per week/TRT dose), 20 mg of Anavar dosed with 200 mg of Caffeine, 50 mg of S4, 25 of Ostarine and 1/4 teaspoon of Progesterone twice a day is pretty awesome...actually feel and look better than I did when I was taking 500 mg of Test with Anavar...
 
Hi everyone,

Looking for some feedback on a first cycle. My goal is to gain strength but not mass. I am in good shape but my strength gains have plateaued. Gains are small over long periods of time and recovery is could be better. My diet is clean and seems to suit me well.

Ive been doing my research on anabolics and have found Anavar to best suit my personal goals. Recently I was suggested to try the SARM's Triple Stack as an alternative.

Can you please give me some info based on knowledge and experience.

Thank you

sarms triple stack is MUCH MUCH more effective then a var only cycle. var alone is crap. you need test in there
 
Beastly........glad you reminded us of the the 200mg effect of caffeine parlayed with Anavar. I read that study too.........that is awesome when considering the expense and toxicity of running Anavar at higher doses.
 
The SARMs triple stack is very decent. Perhaps it will not get to Anavar's results by 100%, but I am pretty confident you will get like 90% of the possible Anavar gains with SARMs. Also, SARMs are quite an easier thing to buy, because due to the high price, many fake Anavar products are sold around the world. Whilst with SARMs you have a guaranteed supplier at sarms1.com



All of these issues are easily controllable. Besides, the vision side effects take place with S4 Andarine, not ostarine. However, they are minor, and stop occurring in a matter of days after finishing the cycle.

Man the price difference and sides! why would you go for sarms triple stack when you could get great results with Var without the sides?
 
Hi everyone,

Looking for some feedback on a first cycle. My goal is to gain strength but not mass. I am in good shape but my strength gains have plateaued. Gains are small over long periods of time and recovery is could be better. My diet is clean and seems to suit me well.

Ive been doing my research on anabolics and have found Anavar to best suit my personal goals. Recently I was suggested to try the SARM's Triple Stack as an alternative.

Can you please give me some info based on knowledge and experience.

Thank you

What are your stats? Var is tough on the liver, how long were you planning on running it?
 
What are your stats? Var is tough on the liver, how long were you planning on running it?

Var has been shown to NOT be tough on the liver. Its been proven through studies to be mostly metabolized by the kidneys and in fact, in situations where they have given pharmaceutical grade Anavar to teenagers for several YEARS at 80mg a day(cannot remember what condition/disease they had) there were no liver issues. In every case, even when there have been elevated liver enzymes they have gone back to normal within a short time after Anavar was discontinued showing it has almost NO potential for permanent liver damage.
 
This is not accurate. The reason they use anavar to treat patients with hepatitis and cirrhosis of the liver is that it does not significantly stress the liver. It is nowhere near as hepatoxic as Dbol or Anadrol. And as far as where did the notion that it's cleared by the kidneys rather than the liver like other steroids goes... It came from medical literature like the article at the bottom.



Effects of long-term oxandrolone administration in severely burned children*
Surgery , Volume 136 , Issue 2 , Pages 219 - 224
K . Murphy , S . Thomas , R . Mlcak , D . Chinkes , G . Klein , D . Herndon

Abstract
Severe burns cause exaggerated catabolism of muscle protein and inhibit bone deposition. Weakness and bony growth arrest interfere with rehabilitation. The purpose of this study was to determine whether oxandrolone administration for 1 year after the burn reverses muscle and bone catabolism in hypermetabolic pediatric burn patients.

Children with burns greater than 40% total body surface area were enrolled into a randomized controlled trial to receive oxandrolone as a long-term anabolic agent. All patients received similar clinical care. Subjects were studied at discharge (95% healed) and at 6, 9, and 12 months after the burn, after treatment with 0.1 mg/kg po bid or placebo. Serum hepatic transaminases were measured. Lean body mass (LBM), bone mineral content (BMC,) and bone mineral density (BMD) were measured by dual energy x-ray absorptiometry. Patients completed a safety questionnaire and were reviewed clinically at intervals.

The groups were similar in age, weight, and total body surface area burned. LBM was significantly greater with oxandrolone at 6, 9, and 12 months after the burn (P < .001) and BMC at 12 months (P < .016). Age- and gender-matched BMD z scores were significantly better with oxandrolone (P < .039). Liver transaminases were unaffected.

Long-term administration of oxandrolone safely improves LBM, BMC, and BMD in severely burned children.

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1: Am J Gastroenterol. 1991 Sep;86(9):1209-18.Links
A randomized, controlled trial of treatment of alcoholic hepatitis with parenteral nutrition and oxandrolone. II. Short-term effects on nitrogen metabolism, metabolic balance, and nutrition.Bonkovsky HL, Singh RH, Jafri IH, Fiellin DA, Smith GS, Simon D, Cotsonis GA, Slaker DP.
Department of Medicine, Emory University School of Medicine, Atlanta, Georgia.

Patients with moderately severe or severe alcoholic hepatitis, described in a companion paper in this issue, had serial studies of energy and protein metabolism and elemental balances before and during treatment for 21 days with one of four randomly assigned regimens: 1) standard therapy, consisting of abstinence, a balanced, nutritionally adequate diet, and multivitamins; 2) oxandrolone (20 mg orally four times a day) plus standard therapy; 3) nutritional supplementation, consisting of 2 liters of 3.5% crystalline amino acids in 5% dextrose given by peripheral vein (PPN) plus standard therapy; and 4) a combination of the other three treatments. Dietary and intravenous intakes and weights were recorded daily, and weekly averages were calculated. Anthropometric measurements and blood studies were done weekly; blood studies included white blood cell counts and differentials, serum prealbumin, transferrin, and total protein and plasma aminograms. Four-days complete balance studies and measures of 15N,1-13C-leucine metabolism also were performed at baseline and after the treatment period. Major findings were as follows: a) Intakes of total calories and protein were significantly higher in PPN-treated than in other groups. b) All patients had positive elemental balances, both at baseline and at the end of the treatment period. However, those treated with PPN (with or without oxandrolone) had higher positive balances of nitrogen, potassium, phosphorus, and magnesium, indicating improvement in lean body mass. c) Anthropometric measurements showed no significant changes, but measures of the visceral protein compartment (serum prealbumin, transferrin, total protein, total lymphocyte count) improved significantly with time. For most of these variables, increases were significantly greater in those treated with PPN with or without oxandrolone than in the other groups. However, for prealbumin, the increase was greatest in the oxandrolone-treated group d) PPN treatment produced dramatic increases in levels of branched-chain amino acids and improvement in the ratio of plasma branched chain to aromatic amino acids. Other treatments had no effect on plasma aminograms. e) Metabolism of 15N,1-13C-leucine was normal and was not affected significantly by treatment. Therapy with PPN and/or oxandrolone was tolerated well. We conclude that PPN has favorable effects on energy and protein metabolism in florid alcoholic hepatitis; oxandrolone has lesser effects, although it may exert some additional action and particularly increases serum prealbumin levels. The results support the use of nutritional supplementation in therapy of moderately severe or severe alcoholic hepatitis.


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Anabolic Steroid Oxandrolone and Rate of Catabolism in Fasciitis
Robert H. Demling, MD, Brigham and Women's Hospital, Burn and Wound Center

Oxandrolone is an anabolic steroid used for restoring lost body weight and lean mass after injury or infection. This agent is 10-fold more potent as an anabolic agent then testosterone and also has negligible androgenic or masculinizing effects. Since the kidney clears oxandrolone rather than the liver like other steroids, liver dysfunction is rare.[20-22] Oxandrolone has also been shown to decrease nitrogen loss in catabolic states, such as burns and AIDS patients.[23,24] In addition, wound healing rate, as measured by the reepithelization rate, has been shown to be increased with oxandrolone after major burn injury compared to nutrition alone.[11-13] Oxandrolone can produce modest initial water retention. However, this effect is very transient and would not have an effect on body weight at discharge.

20-Forbes G. The effect of anabolic steroids on lean body mass: The dose response curve. Metabolism 1985;34:571-3.
21-Fox M, Minot A. Oxandrolone, a potent anabolic steroid. J Clin Endocrinol 1962;2:921-6.
22-Karim A, Ranney E, Zagarella B. Oxandrolone disposition and metabolism in men. Clin Pharmacol Ther 1973;14:862-6.
 
Are you unable to train as much? Intensity? Or able to lift the weights as before?

You should do test cyp and Eq and Dbol cycle instead of SARMS. SARMS are a waste of money for new guys. Take my word man if you wanna get strong and look better go with this cycle. SARMS are a big fat scam, why get the water gun pistol instead of the AR15. You see were I'm coming from. You will be very happy with test cyp and Eq and Dbol cycle. Hit me up if you need anymore help or need a source for gear...Good Luck
 
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