Low libido and ED from Test/Mast

[Balorclub51]

Hey guys

Long time lurker on the board, but just wondering if you could advise on a situation I'm having on my current cycle, and opinions on what may be the best option going forward.

A little background on myself. 5'9, 39 years old and 194 pounds, currently between 14-15% bodyfat. I've cycled many times over the years, and I take a TRT dose of 200mg Test E a week, split Monday and Thursdays. Occasionally, I add 150mg Mast E to the mix when libido is feeling a bit low, and also a low daily dose of Cialis. Around 4 weeks ago started a 12 week cutting cycle of 300mg Test E and 600mg Mast E. Not taking any AI (I've ran this cycle twice before over the years, with 100mg Anavar). Looking to get to around 9% by the end of the 12 weeks. 2 weeks ago I introduced 100mg a day of Anavar as well.

My wife and had been invited to an event in just over 7 weeks. Want to look the best I can, and have the "always on" look, veins, pumped etc. Also, as we'll be away for the week I'm hoping to sky rocket my libido, which oddly hasn't been too good on 600mg Mast E. I’ve noticed quite a bit of ED at times too, very poor blood flow down there too which is weird from 10mg of daily Cialis. Even upped to 40mg to experiment but no improvement at all. Joints are cracking and dry, lips dry and feel tired.

As you can imagine, this is beginning to stress me out. I normally have a decent libido, but this recent drop to non existent libido and ED is making me worry that I won’t be fully functioning for my holiday. Which is even more frustrating because I’m starting to like the look that I’m achieving.

About 2 weeks ago I amended my doses to 420mg Test E, 240mg Mast E and kept 100mg Anavar. Moving towards lower Mast has made a slight difference ED wise, but still not totally right.

I took a blood test on Tuesday this week, got my results yesterday (attached). From your experience, what you you think would be the best thing to do to improve my markers? Should I make any additional changes to my cycle for the last 6 weeks? I thought i had bottomed out my E2 levels, so quite surprised by the result!

Thanks again for the help from you guys, I don’t quite fully understand the results and how to improve things, so your advice and expertise on this is greatly appreciated.

 

[dylangemelli]

the only indicator of what could possibly cause this is the high estrogen levels.. are you 100% sure you have real anavar? thats already a very high dose of anavar that is completely unnecessary but ive seen anavar faked time and time again and that could certainly be the cause... do you have other blood markers? CMP and CBC panel?

 

[Musclehngry]

I am using Masteron E with Sustanon.
I have experienced the issue you describe and the solution was to lower/raise the Masteron until you have the feel your are looking for.

Masteron is blunting the effects of estrogen, and we all know we need estrogen for erections/libido.

For me, if erections are good but I cannot ejaculate, I need more estrogen, If you can get an erection but it lacks quality and potentially keeps going soft, your estrogen is too high.

Hope this helps.

 

[LevButlerov]

Hey guys

Long time lurker on the board, but just wondering if you could advise on a situation I'm having on my current cycle, and opinions on what may be the best option going forward.

A little background on myself. 5'9, 39 years old and 194 pounds, currently between 14-15% bodyfat. I've cycled many times over the years, and I take a TRT dose of 200mg Test E a week, split Monday and Thursdays. Occasionally, I add 150mg Mast E to the mix when libido is feeling a bit low, and also a low daily dose of Cialis. Around 4 weeks ago started a 12 week cutting cycle of 300mg Test E and 600mg Mast E. Not taking any AI (I've ran this cycle twice before over the years, with 100mg Anavar). Looking to get to around 9% by the end of the 12 weeks. 2 weeks ago I introduced 100mg a day of Anavar as well.

My wife and had been invited to an event in just over 7 weeks. Want to look the best I can, and have the "always on" look, veins, pumped etc. Also, as we'll be away for the week I'm hoping to sky rocket my libido, which oddly hasn't been too good on 600mg Mast E. I’ve noticed quite a bit of ED at times too, very poor blood flow down there too which is weird from 10mg of daily Cialis. Even upped to 40mg to experiment but no improvement at all. Joints are cracking and dry, lips dry and feel tired.

As you can imagine, this is beginning to stress me out. I normally have a decent libido, but this recent drop to non existent libido and ED is making me worry that I won’t be fully functioning for my holiday. Which is even more frustrating because I’m starting to like the look that I’m achieving.

About 2 weeks ago I amended my doses to 420mg Test E, 240mg Mast E and kept 100mg Anavar. Moving towards lower Mast has made a slight difference ED wise, but still not totally right.

I took a blood test on Tuesday this week, got my results yesterday (attached). From your experience, what you you think would be the best thing to do to improve my markers? Should I make any additional changes to my cycle for the last 6 weeks? I thought i had bottomed out my E2 levels, so quite surprised by the result!

Thanks again for the help from you guys, I don’t quite fully understand the results and how to improve things, so your advice and expertise on this is greatly appreciated.

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@Balorclub51 welcome to the EVO family! happy to see you share with us and discuss your issue.

A few things come to mind, just looking at your blood work, the most obvious is the crazy high E2 estrogen levels, but there is also the issue of cortisol (training related) which plays a huge role in this, and leptin/ghrelin which is diet related.
Most guys on cycles relate steroids => side effects, but there is more to side effect than just steroids alone. What exactly? Well, diet training cardio sleep supplements and more play a huge role in ED libido results and more. It's a medical fact.

If you want real help from us, like actual feedback, we need to learn more about you as a big EVO family. HOW? well, please share with us in a NEW THREAD start a LOG journal with your current cycle, add diet, training cardio sleep history and info about you so we can guide you on this cycle and fix your libido and ed issues, AND get you more results.

To really guide you we need more info, we need you to share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
We have 100s of years of experience between us, you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My testosterone masteron anavar cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here is a good template on a workout log to follow:
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/workout-log-template.99224/

here are examples of LOG Journals

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-recomp-cut-log-2023-2024.96694/
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https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...n-season-sponsored-by-nordic-fusion-log.89817
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/

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[HybridLabs]

I would slightly lower test and slightly increase mast.

Or just increase the mast a bit now.

You crashed your estrogen with the high mast to start. You had all the symptoms of crashed e2.

Now your estrogen might be a little too high.

You might find the perfect balance soon

 

[stevesmi]

a lot of guys react well to dht's and some don't
a lot of guys react well to high estrogen with high test and some don't

The truth is you may react to certain way this time and next time a different way our bodies are very complex things
The problem is these hormones can mess up a lot of things
high estrogen can cause heart strain, which can cause blood flow issues. which can cause ED.

 

[Mobster]

Stevesmi has you covered.

 

[Balorclub51]

the only indicator of what could possibly cause this is the high estrogen levels.. are you 100% sure you have real anavar? thats already a very high dose of anavar that is completely unnecessary but ive seen anavar faked time and time again and that could certainly be the cause... do you have other blood markers? CMP and CBC panel?

I don’t unfortunately no, the test I paid for only covered the markers included, I’ll pay for another test to check those two.

I never thought of the Anavar being faked. The source I buy from has a good reputation in the UK, and I’ve used it a couple of times before. Do you think it would be best to drop the Var and replace with 50mg Winny for the remaining 6 weeks? Also, unsure whether to take Aromasin 12.5mg x 2 or 3 times a week to try to get the E2 down. Lastly, do you think the Mast is a good dose as it is, or shall I go 400mg/400mg of Test and Mast E?

Happy to take any feedback or changes with the remaining 6 weeks of the cycle.

Thank you

 

[Balorclub51]

@Balorclub51 welcome to the EVO family! happy to see you share with us and discuss your issue.

A few things come to mind, just looking at your blood work, the most obvious is the crazy high E2 estrogen levels, but there is also the issue of cortisol (training related) which plays a huge role in this, and leptin/ghrelin which is diet related.
Most guys on cycles relate steroids => side effects, but there is more to side effect than just steroids alone. What exactly? Well, diet training cardio sleep supplements and more play a huge role in ED libido results and more. It's a medical fact.

If you want real help from us, like actual feedback, we need to learn more about you as a big EVO family. HOW? well, please share with us in a NEW THREAD start a LOG journal with your current cycle, add diet, training cardio sleep history and info about you so we can guide you on this cycle and fix your libido and ed issues, AND get you more results.

To really guide you we need more info, we need you to share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
We have 100s of years of experience between us, you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My testosterone masteron anavar cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here is a good template on a workout log to follow:
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/workout-log-template.99224/

here are examples of LOG Journals

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-recomp-cut-log-2023-2024.96694/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/mobsters-training-diary.84438/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidrage69-log.90127
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/domestic-supply-bulking-log-25homes-max.97609/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...obolan-equipoise-tbol-contest-prep-log.97138/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...osterone-deca-primobolan-hgh-cycle-log.97978/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...igas-hgh-and-bpc157-recovery-cycle-log.97594/
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https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsy-new-sponsor-ugl-contest-prep-log.96779/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-2023-2024-log.95956/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...stosterone-cardarine-cutting-cycle-log.97281/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidragewife-female-training-log.95769/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/2024-lean-bulking-cycle-log.97986/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-with-deca-durabolin-log.97962/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...bodybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.97210/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/losiol-primobolan-testosterone-log.96581/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roughy-steroid-cycle-and-training.97944/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/fatboy999-2024-cycle-log.97936/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/testosterone-equipoise-trenbolone-cycle-log.96963/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-log.98284/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/16-week-testosterone-cardarine-n2guard-cycle-log.98034/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/training-log-female.90425
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...tosterone-masteron-primobolan-blast-log.98328
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/25homes-revenge-transformation-log-2023.88570/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...n-season-sponsored-by-nordic-fusion-log.89817
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/

P.S. are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should; this podcast is about steroids, sarms, peptides, and bodybuilding:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/

P.P.S. download our eBooks and learn more:
https://irongorillas.com

Hi Lev, thank you very much! Will definitely get a log going soon, will help for sure!

 

[Balorclub51]

a lot of guys react well to dht's and some don't
a lot of guys react well to high estrogen with high test and some don't

The truth is you may react to certain way this time and next time a different way our bodies are very complex things
The problem is these hormones can mess up a lot of things
high estrogen can cause heart strain, which can cause blood flow issues. which can cause ED.

Thanks for the advice Steve, appreciate it

 

[Balorclub51]

I would slightly lower test and slightly increase mast.

Or just increase the mast a bit now.

You crashed your estrogen with the high mast to start. You had all the symptoms of crashed e2.

Now your estrogen might be a little too high.

You might find the perfect balance soon

Thanks for the advice! What ratio do you think for now? 400/400 or maybe 300/300?

 

[zedhed]

It's good that you got blood work that's the first step
from here let's get your log going so monitor what's going on

 

[caligirl85]

women have high estrogen and most of us have a very high libido especially as we get into our middle age

 

[Shrine]

best thing you can do is get your log going
this way we can track your libido

 

[Zyglamail]

erectile dysfunction is a big problem
a lot of that has to do with blood flow and shouldn't be ignored

 

[Arabian]

if Viagra isn't doing the trick then there is some issues going on
you might have some other problems

 

[BookerTNY]

try logging and let's see if we can adjust things
it's hard to just guess

 

[sambee38]

make sure you put up a nice log
this way we can track your progress and give recommendations

 

[Austin316]

a lot of things can affect what's going on in your body
once you start using steroids it's open season

 

[Quadsweep]

if Cialis isn't even working then the problem is pretty serious
you could also try some Viagra in