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Massacre at Ft. Hood

Its a rough life I was unable to continue duty due to an injury. There is alot that goes through your mind when you sit there. It was a bad environment for many people onece they were injured they were never the same. Its an unfortunate thing but most problems like this are a by product of the fact that (atleast in the marines) seeing a psychatrist is grounds for a discharge. I saw one as a child and had to withhold that to serve my country. I know any one who is was or will be n the military has been affected by this act today. I can only hope my friends that live In and around the Ft. Hood Kileen Waco area are all ok.

They Absolutely have been effected.
 
Very sad. I hate to hear about stuff like this, Life for a soldier or services member is a hard life already. I served for 11 yrs myself and in that time I've been around many people that have hurt others or themselves and mostly all due to mental stress and personal beliefs.

I also lived in kileen when I was younger, I think that area is always having some crazy shit happening. I was there when david koresh and his follower were held up in their compound in waco.
 
This is an absolute Tragedy. One of the guys i sponsor in recovery actually had to go see this guy at Ft. Hood prior to coming here to Ft. Benning. It truely amazes me the type of trust we place in people when we are in a time of need. I mean this man had the knowledge and ability to manipulate peoples mind whether it be through drug interaction or simply verbally. It frightens me to think that a man who is responsible for our soldiers mental health would be capable of such an act. Think about it. This is the man that people who are disturbed, hurting, have addiction problems, PTSD from war and any other mental problems are forced to go see to help them get better. WTF?
 
The only problem is seeing a psychiatrist is grounds for discharge. Everyone in the military that I know right now is mentally fucked, but they dont do anything about it because it can jeopardize your job. I know 2 people that were forced to retire early or they were going to be chaptered out because of mental issues.
 
The only problem is seeing a psychiatrist is grounds for discharge. Everyone in the military that I know right now is mentally fucked, but they dont do anything about it because it can jeopardize your job. I know 2 people that were forced to retire early or they were going to be chaptered out because of mental issues.

Yeah but getting an Article for that depends on what you are seeing the shrink for. Still an idiot like that has no business working with others mental health in any capacity.
 
The only problem is seeing a psychiatrist is grounds for discharge. Everyone in the military that I know right now is mentally fucked, but they dont do anything about it because it can jeopardize your job. I know 2 people that were forced to retire early or they were going to be chaptered out because of mental issues.

Discharge is not absolute when seeking help for mental ilness. It's misinformation on the part of many services members. Firstly there is rehab or treatment of said illness, secondly there is an evaluation period, then you have the medical review board. Trust me it does not always lead to discharge unless thats exactly what that person is after. :)
 
Like I said a few close friends of mine were basically forced to, after seeking help for different mental illnesses when they returned from afghan. It was not their choice.
 
Which is also why people omit any previous counseling or mental help when trying to enlist. When my husband was recruiting they told him to tell people to lie about it to get in.
 
Discharge is not absolute when seeking help for mental ilness. It's misinformation on the part of many services members. Firstly there is rehab or treatment of said illness, secondly there is an evaluation period, then you have the medical review board. Trust me it does not always lead to discharge unless thats exactly what that person is after. :)

In my experience they didnt allow you to see a real therapist they had counslers that were other soldiers that you could talk to the only people who had an actual psych evaluation with a real doctor were all discharged. The case was the same when I have talked to my dad about his time in the service. Seeing an actual therapist/ psychatrist is a nono, and if you do you must do so privatley and hide it. Which can be done at a sum of money since you cant use your healthcare. Doctor patient confidentiality, but most soldiers dont have the money for that though.
 
In my experience they didnt allow you to see a real therapist they had counslers that were other soldiers that you could talk to the only people who had an actual psych evaluation with a real doctor were all discharged. The case was the same when I have talked to my dad about his time in the service. Seeing an actual therapist/ psychatrist is a nono, and if you do you must do so privatley and hide it. Which can be done at a sum of money since you cant use your healthcare. Doctor patient confidentiality, but most soldiers dont have the money for that though.

In my company alon there were 13 people treated for ptsd including myself and were all recieving treatment from a psych. None of us were discharged. Mental illness is recognized at this point by the military and is treatable without fear of discharge provided your therapist says your fit for duty.
 
In my company alon there were 13 people treated for ptsd including myself and were all recieving treatment from a psych. None of us were discharged. Mental illness is recognized at this point by the military and is treatable without fear of discharge provided your therapist says your fit for duty.
See there would be the difference none of the people I know that were discharged were ptsd. That has become an issue that they have had to start dealing with, but most never receive any treatment. Im glad you and the members of your company got help and treatment, but yall are not the norm from what I saw. Many many are overlooked and denied help, or are sent home as unfit for duty. You can go around the streets of this country and see many men that are homeless who have been discharged for a psych issue whatever the cause and have received little to no help. Now you tell me if that is what would happen if our military allowed full access to therapist and psychiatrists, and continued the treatment of our veterans who were not fit for duty. To me its sad and again I was also in the military and a military family. Also again Im happy yall were able to get the help needed.
 
being an army brat this hit close to home.
i just dont get it
why why why!
 
The one thing Ive heard as to why is he didnt want to deploy, but I dont know if thats true. Its horrible regardless and never should have happened.

So that means go on a shooting spree...what's that going to do?
Did he think he wasnt going to get caught?
 
So that means go on a shooting spree...what's that going to do?
Did he think he wasnt going to get caught?
It wouldnt do anything. Its just sad we probabley will never know the truth even though hes alive. Its hard to say if it could have been stopped or not. But I certainly never meant that it was ok. That was all Ive heard.
 
You know what? Nvm that comment has just really pissed me off, so I'm just gonna leave it at that.

Its a fact if your going to join any branch of armed service in a time of war. You will be deployed and come back with ptsd. Every single one of my cousins, my brother, my dad, my friends all came back with it. Maybe saying it wasnt shit was a bad idea. What I should have said is its inevitable...
 
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