dude such a trip Geno, i was replying to your posts in the homebrew thread and in another window saw this thread hhaha this is what i was saying to you
"just always used PTFE anyhow ill def. shoot the shit with you my man theres a few topics you scratched at the surface of a little while back, but first and foremost! you grabbing some Miglyol 840 there hahah how much of that did you have to buy and what'd it run you bro? did you have the option of 812?? let me know on that if your interested in maybe making some of your money back if youd like to get rid of some, if of course you have any to spare... but awesome man, just reading all your posts I am not one bit surprised that you were the one to grab some of that bro hahaha..."
Hell yea I def. will take you up on the offer brother, how are you bottling it up? glass?
I get it straight from the manufacturer, and the minimum order is extremely high. I spent several months looking for a connection, and a lot of resellers would quote me at $100-300 per liter (I had several quote around $500). They are very large containers, but I decided to drop the money and take a chance. I ended up having to use some permits and my business licenses to secure the ability to order any.
I've decided to use MoneyGram for now, because most of the people coming to ask for it wanted very large orders (many many gallons), so MG made sense. My main issue has been small orders (samples, etc), as most people don't want to fuck with MG for less than several $100. I've been thinking of different ways of handling money exchanges. Its not illegal at all, so its not a huge deal. But when I was filling out the paperwork they had me say that I wouldn't re-sell it out of the country unprocessed. I just re-read over it (I thought they said I couldn't sell it at all unprocessed). But since it says out of the country, I should be fine. I just don't want to lose the connection, because there is zero chance of me ever going back to anything else. So after Thanksgiving I'm going to verify that and if its all good, I'll be a lot more open and free about it. I'd rather hoard it for myself and take the financial hit for my own production, than make some money and lose the connection (I'm not even making that much money, I'm doing this more to help the community).
I have access to all of those products. But from my reading the 840 definitely sounded like the very best. And ever since I bought it I haven't stopped using it -- and I definitely won't. There's zero chance the 812 is better lol. Why do you feel the 812 is better?
If you really want to try the 812, find some people that are willing to throw in. Its not cheap. Honestly I recommend just sticking with the 840 though. I'll throw in a few $100 if you're serious. But I have a feeling it'll be more or less just a waste of money when I already have the 840 verified and ready to go.
And yes, I'll be more than happy to sell to you. But you'll have to deal with MoneyGram until I sort out another method. I want there to be some transparency between the individual buying and myself. We all know what its for, so I want everyone to be able to stay out of trouble and not have money trails. I'm about to place another order, as I just had someone else come in and just flat out said they'd buy everything I had left.
Concerning the bottles, I'm just using plastic bottles from a shipping company (used to ship liquids). They are perfect for the job.
Ive actually done a lot of research on this stuff for some time now and have spoken to some vets in regards to purchasing some but god dam the minimum order was something like a 50gal drum or something man, but this stuff I can promise will be a one hit wonder lol although I feel the transition will be slow because people will want to stick to conventional oils still... but ive been wanting to get my hands on some for a long time man.... I found a chemist actually that supplies it along with 812 but heres a company that has a list of them all take a look.
http://www.warnergraham.com.php5-25...ploads/2012/04/Cremer-Excipients-Brochure.pdf
"Liquid lipids are fatty acid esters. They are neutral carriers for various pharmaceutical applications. Because of their
high polarity, they have superior solvent characteristics for active drugs (compared to hydrocarbons)."
Honestly bro its a premium oil. Its not like others where you can just easily buy it. And since a pharmaceutical company OWNS it (I believe that's the proper term for the company), they have a lot of control over it. Its not like natural oils like Grapseseed, Safflower, that's natural and you can get from many different places, etc. So its extremely hard to get a hold of.
And yes, that's no joke. The minimum order is massive. I'm hoping the popularity will continue, because then I will be able to order much larger quantities and drop the price to closer to $40/L. But those orders are very high are close to $10,000. So I've been considering opening a company that is literally dedicated to just reselling Miglyol lol. Though if I did that, I'd need to pull a higher profit to justify it -- it wouldn't only be for helping the community at that point.
I'll PM you my email and get you situated.
I wouldnt doubt it man if it was some lab that tried to make it based on the ingredients and called it the same, ive got the exact ingredients to it as well but would never try scrapping it together and calling it the same you know.... like you guys mentioned, which is something I wanted to do with it, possibly mix it 50/50 with carrier of choice, but i bet they added EO to it for sure trying to make it even "better" anyhow id still be more then down to experiment with it as I know a few others that would like to as well. let me know...
Miglyol doesn't need to be mixed with anything else unless you're trying to reach very high concentrations. A lot of people decide to use EO to have the ability to shoot their gear through smaller needles. That's not an issue AT ALL with the Miglyol. The only reason a lab would be mixing it with another would be to save money -- and honestly that would only ruin the incredible quality of what they had, which then makes it pretty much pointless to use. So I SERIOUSLY doubt anyone intelligent would do that. The more I think about it, the more ludicrous I think it is. I've been using it with some of my Test E for a bit, and its just been incredible. I have a very strong feeling those people were just lying and trying to get a name for themselves or something.
I will say this though, a few certain people have been contacting me to get a premium line going. And I'm VERY much looking forward to seeing how their products turn out.
I haven't ordered more powder, and I only had a little bit of Test E left, so I haven't been able to really run the experiments that I've been wanting to yet. So they're just standard Test E injections (250mg/ml) I use for my TRT (to hoard my pharma Test C hahaha). I seriously prefer it over my pharma Test C.
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