My advice for steroid users, how i’ve been successful

[MaksRep]

Some of you, not all, Seem to be against steroid use on here. Pretty sure everyone knows whom i am talking about. Pretty hypocritical if you ask me. Then wanting to steer people to things that are not FDA approved while steroids are. The truth is you can use steroids the right way like i have and end up perfectly healthy now into my 50’s.

1. Eat a clean diet not just on cycle but after
2. Do your homework on how compounds mix with your genetic limits. In other words don’t think that 3 grams of gear will do anything for you unless you have Mr. Olympia genes
3. Do bloodwork atleast 3 times per year, and especially atleast twice pre cycle
4. Get a heart specialist to take a look at your heart pre and post cycle.
5. Cycle should be 25% of your time, pct should be 75%, this ensures you recover properly

Again DO YOUR HOMEWORK. Have a backup plan if things don’t go well. If you end up with acne then know how to treat it on cycle without freaking out for example. Little things like that will keep your cycles smooth.
I’m now sitting at 5’11’’ 185 pounds and 7% body fat which is unheard of for people my age. Steroids have helped me achieve this look so i will always say use them.
I’m getting ready to compete next year in physique.
That’s probably another thing. Forget about competing in open, that is where the health trauma is!

 

[LevButlerov]

Some of you, not all, Seem to be against steroid use on here. Pretty sure everyone knows whom i am talking about. Pretty hypocritical if you ask me. Then wanting to steer people to things that are not FDA approved while steroids are. The truth is you can use steroids the right way like i have and end up perfectly healthy now into my 50’s.

1. Eat a clean diet not just on cycle but after
2. Do your homework on how compounds mix with your genetic limits. In other words don’t think that 3 grams of gear will do anything for you unless you have Mr. Olympia genes
3. Do bloodwork atleast 3 times per year, and especially atleast twice pre cycle
4. Get a heart specialist to take a look at your heart pre and post cycle.
5. Cycle should be 25% of your time, pct should be 75%, this ensures you recover properly

Again DO YOUR HOMEWORK. Have a backup plan if things don’t go well. If you end up with acne then know how to treat it on cycle without freaking out for example. Little things like that will keep your cycles smooth.
I’m now sitting at 5’11’’ 185 pounds and 7% body fat which is unheard of for people my age. Steroids have helped me achieve this look so i will always say use them.
I’m getting ready to compete next year in physique.
That’s probably another thing. Forget about competing in open, that is where the health trauma is!

good to know I agree with you

 

[ceo]

bros alrihts thanks

 

[ROIDDERS]

good advice playa

 

[Ulter]

great thanks for this

 

[chesty]

well guide is smartly put together

 

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[e2]

g2g info for community

 

[2Thick]

big playa dont stop post some more

 

[stevesmi]

to have those stats at your age and still be competing is something i can applaud for sure

good job man

 

[JasonPriest]

i have a lot of respect for your post

 

[Mobster]

Apart from the first line (and the FDA remark) I agree. The first line needs defining.

If it means we discourage under 25's from using then I'd say nearly all (but not quite all) of the reps and moderators are onside.

If members are over 21 then sarms are suggested. Note that steering people is fine - forcing them would not be.

Also Steroids ARE FDA approved but not for how you, me and many others use them. Medical use only. Not performance or physique enhancement. And that also applies to sarms etc

I've covered most of your numbered points in my tips thread

 

[BodyMonster34]

Some of you, not all, Seem to be against steroid use on here. Pretty sure everyone knows whom i am talking about. Pretty hypocritical if you ask me. Then wanting to steer people to things that are not FDA approved while steroids are. The truth is you can use steroids the right way like i have and end up perfectly healthy now into my 50’s.

1. Eat a clean diet not just on cycle but after
2. Do your homework on how compounds mix with your genetic limits. In other words don’t think that 3 grams of gear will do anything for you unless you have Mr. Olympia genes
3. Do bloodwork atleast 3 times per year, and especially atleast twice pre cycle
4. Get a heart specialist to take a look at your heart pre and post cycle.
5. Cycle should be 25% of your time, pct should be 75%, this ensures you recover properly

Again DO YOUR HOMEWORK. Have a backup plan if things don’t go well. If you end up with acne then know how to treat it on cycle without freaking out for example. Little things like that will keep your cycles smooth.
I’m now sitting at 5’11’’ 185 pounds and 7% body fat which is unheard of for people my age. Steroids have helped me achieve this look so i will always say use them.
I’m getting ready to compete next year in physique.
That’s probably another thing. Forget about competing in open, that is where the health trauma is!

bro yo a stud. let see some pics

 

[Quadsweep]

Some of you, not all, Seem to be against steroid use on here. Pretty sure everyone knows whom i am talking about. Pretty hypocritical if you ask me. Then wanting to steer people to things that are not FDA approved while steroids are. The truth is you can use steroids the right way like i have and end up perfectly healthy now into my 50’s.

1. Eat a clean diet not just on cycle but after
2. Do your homework on how compounds mix with your genetic limits. In other words don’t think that 3 grams of gear will do anything for you unless you have Mr. Olympia genes
3. Do bloodwork atleast 3 times per year, and especially atleast twice pre cycle
4. Get a heart specialist to take a look at your heart pre and post cycle.
5. Cycle should be 25% of your time, pct should be 75%, this ensures you recover properly

Again DO YOUR HOMEWORK. Have a backup plan if things don’t go well. If you end up with acne then know how to treat it on cycle without freaking out for example. Little things like that will keep your cycles smooth.
I’m now sitting at 5’11’’ 185 pounds and 7% body fat which is unheard of for people my age. Steroids have helped me achieve this look so i will always say use them.
I’m getting ready to compete next year in physique.
That’s probably another thing. Forget about competing in open, that is where the health trauma is!

i agree with almost everything you said

 

[RoidRage69]

Some of you, not all, Seem to be against steroid use on here. Pretty sure everyone knows whom i am talking about. Pretty hypocritical if you ask me. Then wanting to steer people to things that are not FDA approved while steroids are. The truth is you can use steroids the right way like i have and end up perfectly healthy now into my 50’s.

1. Eat a clean diet not just on cycle but after
2. Do your homework on how compounds mix with your genetic limits. In other words don’t think that 3 grams of gear will do anything for you unless you have Mr. Olympia genes
3. Do bloodwork atleast 3 times per year, and especially atleast twice pre cycle
4. Get a heart specialist to take a look at your heart pre and post cycle.
5. Cycle should be 25% of your time, pct should be 75%, this ensures you recover properly

Again DO YOUR HOMEWORK. Have a backup plan if things don’t go well. If you end up with acne then know how to treat it on cycle without freaking out for example. Little things like that will keep your cycles smooth.
I’m now sitting at 5’11’’ 185 pounds and 7% body fat which is unheard of for people my age. Steroids have helped me achieve this look so i will always say use them.
I’m getting ready to compete next year in physique.
That’s probably another thing. Forget about competing in open, that is where the health trauma is!

Agree with you 100%. Some people have a vested interest in selling SARMS on here while bashing steroids.

 

[Mobster]

Agree with you 100%. Some people have a vested interest in selling SARMS on here while bashing steroids.

I'd point out we have sarms sponsors who 100% have a vested interest. As do AAS sponsors. Heck any sponsor lol

 

[Mobster]

Some of you, not all, Seem to be against steroid use on here. Pretty sure everyone knows whom i am talking about. Pretty hypocritical if you ask me. Then wanting to steer people to things that are not FDA approved while steroids are. The truth is you can use steroids the right way like i have and end up perfectly healthy now into my 50’s.

1. Eat a clean diet not just on cycle but after
2. Do your homework on how compounds mix with your genetic limits. In other words don’t think that 3 grams of gear will do anything for you unless you have Mr. Olympia genes
3. Do bloodwork atleast 3 times per year, and especially atleast twice pre cycle
4. Get a heart specialist to take a look at your heart pre and post cycle.
5. Cycle should be 25% of your time, pct should be 75%, this ensures you recover properly

Again DO YOUR HOMEWORK. Have a backup plan if things don’t go well. If you end up with acne then know how to treat it on cycle without freaking out for example. Little things like that will keep your cycles smooth.
I’m now sitting at 5’11’’ 185 pounds and 7% body fat which is unheard of for people my age. Steroids have helped me achieve this look so i will always say use them.
I’m getting ready to compete next year in physique.
That’s probably another thing. Forget about competing in open, that is where the health trauma is!

On this. That USED to be true. However, we've also seen deaths and hospitalization in the women's divisions (3 inc Stacy Cumming and Amy Richardson among others) as well as other classes. There was a big noise about this last year where ONE particular coach was singled out for the extremes he was suggesting female athletes (out of shape ones) needed to put themselves through. Crazy doses etc

 

[LittleTimeTrouble]

Apart from the first line (and the FDA remark) I agree. The first line needs defining.

If it means we discourage under 25's from using then I'd say nearly all (but not quite all) of the reps and moderators are onside.

If members are over 21 then sarms are suggested. Note that steering people is fine - forcing them would not be.

Also Steroids ARE FDA approved but not for how you, me and many others use them. Medical use only. Not performance or physique enhancement. And that also applies to sarms etc

I've covered most of your numbered points in my tips thread

I’ve struggled with the FDA one. There is a good point that having enough testing that the compound has been approved for human use for at least something isn’t a bad protocol for safer use. Of course, they haven’t been tested for what people mainly use them for, but it’s a good indication that you are less likely to suffer major problems up to the doses tested. I admit that I don’t use Cardarine because I am somewhat unsure of the importance of the data, even though I know it is the best at what it does. So I use Telmisartan, which is not quite as good, but widely studied and with a great safety profile. But that is my decision, and one where I think I am most likely wrong, but lets me sleep at night. I am sure there are other examples.

ETA: The FDA isn’t the be all and end all, I’d say approved by some major countries version for use in humans. There are some significant differences among equally developed nations.

 

[Mobster]

I’ve struggled with the FDA one. There is a good point that having enough testing that the compound has been approved for human use for at least something isn’t a bad protocol for safer use. Of course, they haven’t been tested for what people mainly use them for, but it’s a good indication that you are less likely to suffer major problems up to the doses tested. I admit that I don’t use Cardarine because I am somewhat unsure of the importance of the data, even though I know it is the best at what it does. So I use Telmisartan, which is not quite as good, but widely studied and with a great safety profile. But that is my decision, and one where I think I am most likely wrong, but lets me sleep at night. I am sure there are other examples.

ETA: The FDA isn’t the be all and end all, I’d say approved by some major countries version for use in humans. There are some significant differences among equally developed nations.

Good solid reply. That dose point is important in our debate.

The issue with GW is pointless in my opinion. Many drugs are tested as it was (inc the crazy high testing to see what side effects might occur). And the whole cancer (carcinogenic potentially) issue is clear. They took it to 200x the effective dose for mice (so 200 x 20mg or 4g in a human). I've yet to see or even hear of anyone doing that or suggesting it. Nor, to date, a single example of ANY direct correlation between GW use at 20mg and any cases of cancer. It MIGHT happen but I'm gonna say I don't think so.

And, of course, Sarms were created for human use. Just most never (so far) ended up used as that

 

[stevesmi]

important to remember there are AAS out there that were approved for human use for anemia and muscle wasting for many years then pulled due to their unnecessary side effects vs. the more modern drugs that can do that without destroying your reproductive system or causing a female to get an enlarged clit lol

also in countries where steroids are decriminalized and states where they are too (Oregon is one) you cannot just walk into the pharmacy and get steroids lol. you still need a professional to hook you up. example where my old podcast host Rick lives you won't be able to get tren at a pharmacy, even if the pharmacist is okay with it. because it isn't produced by a pharma company. you would STILL need to break the law to acquire tren and many do by buying it on the black market and taking all the risks associated with buying underground gear. but the right pharmacist would be happy to hook you up with steroids that are pharma produced like test and peptides like hgh as long as they know you are gonna use them for private use

bottom line these are VERY powerful hormones and this year i would guestimate about 10M youngsters in their late teens/early 20's will use steroids in the USA and blow out their HPTA FOR LIFE. so people need to RESPECT these very powerful hormones