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Approved Log My Dbol to testosterone Transformation Cycle Log

Flyingandrei

V.I.P.
EVO Logger
Hi evo team i have been requested to log and so I shall.

To understand me you must understand my story and my love for the life of iron and no, I don't want no sympathy!

P.s ITS A FUCKEN NOVEL 🤣

Just for people to know i am a genuine person.

We all make choices we have to live with .

BODY DATA
Age 32
Height 178cm
Weight current 115kg (253 lbs)
Training experience 6 years
Body fat % guesstimated 30%
Currently: Cutting/ Fatloss for the past 3 weeks. Started at 117,3
1kg -1.5kg rate a week for muslce retaining.

Current cycle: Dianabol 40mg per day
Current Calories/Macros 2800. 200 ish protein, 73 fat, 305 carbs

Past bulk cycle : Decca 400mg- 2x 200mg pins a week Dianabol 40mg a day 3500+ calories, forgot macros.

TRAINING: 4 DAYS A WEEK
Chest/ Delts
Back/
Legs
Arms

I respond better to low volume now on gear. Natty high volume.

Planned cycle if approved from swapping dbol to testosterone
Test enanthate 200mg
2 x 100mg pins a week

Will pct be needed? Wouldnt that cause 2 shutdowns? 1 for pct and 1 for starting test.



About me:
Training since 2018 (will post photo and be the one looking like i starved. I basically did 🤣. I've done all the pathetic yoyo dieting, healthy diets, flexible diets as a natural. Cut, bulk, all the wrong ways 🤣🤣🤣 I learned the fucken hard way.

MY STORY
Late 2018 after stupid aggressive cuts I got a natty coach. Learned how to train properly, did a strict healthy diet and serious calculated calorie/macro cut (photos will be attached of lean and pumped) end of 2019 did a show to purposely get as lean as possible and reveal abs for the first time.

Fast forward fell in love with fitness and lifting. Studied Eric helms ebooks (The muscle and strength pyramids) wanted to jump into the industry so i got my certifications. Passion grew so I went on to study nutrition and certified as a sports nutritionist...

After the first comp the mother of my 2 children said it was gym or her (she was sick of me dieting) she tried to kill herself because of it in the hotel bath tub the night of comp (no this is no fucken joke)

Made the choice to give in to her and my kids to see them happy so I chose to lean bulk lift and fucken eat.

Fast foward covid hit and it was at the peak of my graduation and i was in prep again for comp 2 in men's physique . Gyms shut down and i got rocked with depression having to cancel it after all the hard work. I just thought fuck it im gona train and eat for real this time.

So end of 2019 74kg (163 lbs) right up till end of 2023 i gained NATURALLY to 125kg (275 lbs). In this time i was fucken disgusted couldn't walk 9 holes playing golf but I was big and strong. After awhile my relationship deteriorated and i was doomed with depression again.

I tried cutting down so many times but i keep getting smashed by life and kids and work. In the end what i gave up wasnt worth it. Got cheated on etc cause I was sloppy, i feel deeper into depression. I tried ssri antidepressants but i withdrew from it cause i knew it wasnt really me but the affects of competing and not competing and life.

I started researching my symptoms and i had come across... HORMONES. Time to time i started feeling brain fog at work, low energy, mood swings and so i watched more youtube and researched here and got a blood work panel (STILL NATURAL NO GEAR TAKEN YET)

It came back and I knew it. I had low as fuck testosterone levels it come back Abnormal as the dr testing it was a steroid dr.

I had researched probaly from 2021 upwards when i joined here. I also did john jewetts J3U course which was fantastic into the anabolic world.

Now i knew I shouldn't do test if high body fat and it could cause moon face binge watching more plates more dates and reading on evo years ago

A mate helped me stumble across a deca only coach and Dbol only who had tested on thousands and had success. I was too scared to pin my first cycle and get gyno so this is why i chose deca only as my first anabolic.

I have had zero issues with the cycle. But, i did think it was going to fix my low energy levels, brain fog, etc but it has not. It has just turned me into a blob of mass thats tired.

So yes i do want to swap to testosterone, I am happy to wait until i have cut down more if it has to be that way.

No I don't give a fuck about hair loss. Yes I understand I will be shut down and if i stay. On trt it can affect my fertility and possibly permanently. I am fine with this as i have 2 kids both teens 1 13 year old son waiting for his dad to get jacked to start jiujitsu and one 15 year old daughter to protect.

Lifting saved my life. I just want to feel great again. Masculine with aesthetics to follow. I don't aspire to be huge.

Thank you for taking the time to read my log if you have done so.
 
In order is basically what I explained above of my journey 2018 to now. Picture with grey beanie is natty 125kg lol .Last picture deca 400mg, 40mg dbol. I think i was 120kg there.
 

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I'm glad to hear that your you found your way navigating the fitness industry it can be very complicated
This is going to be a great log I'm looking forward to following it
 
I'm glad to hear that your you found your way navigating the fitness industry it can be very complicated
This is going to be a great log I'm looking forward to following it
Thanks Steve, Appreciate the response. Hope your training endeavours are going well 💪.
 
Hi evo team i have been requested to log and so I shall.

To understand me you must understand my story and my love for the life of iron and no, I don't want no sympathy!

P.s ITS A FUCKEN NOVEL 🤣

Just for people to know i am a genuine person.

We all make choices we have to live with .

BODY DATA
Age 32
Height 178cm
Weight current 115kg (253 lbs)
Training experience 6 years
Body fat % guesstimated 30%
Currently: Cutting/ Fatloss for the past 3 weeks. Started at 117,3
1kg -1.5kg rate a week for muslce retaining.

Current cycle: Dianabol 40mg per day
Current Calories/Macros 2800. 200 ish protein, 73 fat, 305 carbs

Past bulk cycle : Decca 400mg- 2x 200mg pins a week Dianabol 40mg a day 3500+ calories, forgot macros.

TRAINING: 4 DAYS A WEEK
Chest/ Delts
Back/
Legs
Arms

I respond better to low volume now on gear. Natty high volume.

Planned cycle if approved from swapping dbol to testosterone
Test enanthate 200mg
2 x 100mg pins a week

Will pct be needed? Wouldnt that cause 2 shutdowns? 1 for pct and 1 for starting test.



About me:
Training since 2018 (will post photo and be the one looking like i starved. I basically did 🤣. I've done all the pathetic yoyo dieting, healthy diets, flexible diets as a natural. Cut, bulk, all the wrong ways 🤣🤣🤣 I learned the fucken hard way.

MY STORY
Late 2018 after stupid aggressive cuts I got a natty coach. Learned how to train properly, did a strict healthy diet and serious calculated calorie/macro cut (photos will be attached of lean and pumped) end of 2019 did a show to purposely get as lean as possible and reveal abs for the first time.

Fast forward fell in love with fitness and lifting. Studied Eric helms ebooks (The muscle and strength pyramids) wanted to jump into the industry so i got my certifications. Passion grew so I went on to study nutrition and certified as a sports nutritionist...

After the first comp the mother of my 2 children said it was gym or her (she was sick of me dieting) she tried to kill herself because of it in the hotel bath tub the night of comp (no this is no fucken joke)

Made the choice to give in to her and my kids to see them happy so I chose to lean bulk lift and fucken eat.

Fast foward covid hit and it was at the peak of my graduation and i was in prep again for comp 2 in men's physique . Gyms shut down and i got rocked with depression having to cancel it after all the hard work. I just thought fuck it im gona train and eat for real this time.

So end of 2019 74kg (163 lbs) right up till end of 2023 i gained NATURALLY to 125kg (275 lbs). In this time i was fucken disgusted couldn't walk 9 holes playing golf but I was big and strong. After awhile my relationship deteriorated and i was doomed with depression again.

I tried cutting down so many times but i keep getting smashed by life and kids and work. In the end what i gave up wasnt worth it. Got cheated on etc cause I was sloppy, i feel deeper into depression. I tried ssri antidepressants but i withdrew from it cause i knew it wasnt really me but the affects of competing and not competing and life.

I started researching my symptoms and i had come across... HORMONES. Time to time i started feeling brain fog at work, low energy, mood swings and so i watched more youtube and researched here and got a blood work panel (STILL NATURAL NO GEAR TAKEN YET)

It came back and I knew it. I had low as fuck testosterone levels it come back Abnormal as the dr testing it was a steroid dr.

I had researched probaly from 2021 upwards when i joined here. I also did john jewetts J3U course which was fantastic into the anabolic world.

Now i knew I shouldn't do test if high body fat and it could cause moon face binge watching more plates more dates and reading on evo years ago

A mate helped me stumble across a deca only coach and Dbol only who had tested on thousands and had success. I was too scared to pin my first cycle and get gyno so this is why i chose deca only as my first anabolic.

I have had zero issues with the cycle. But, i did think it was going to fix my low energy levels, brain fog, etc but it has not. It has just turned me into a blob of mass thats tired.

So yes i do want to swap to testosterone, I am happy to wait until i have cut down more if it has to be that way.

No I don't give a fuck about hair loss. Yes I understand I will be shut down and if i stay. On trt it can affect my fertility and possibly permanently. I am fine with this as i have 2 kids both teens 1 13 year old son waiting for his dad to get jacked to start jiujitsu and one 15 year old daughter to protect.

Lifting saved my life. I just want to feel great again. Masculine with aesthetics to follow. I don't aspire to be huge.

Thank you for taking the time to read my log if you have done so.

In order is basically what I explained above of my journey 2018 to now. Picture with grey beanie is natty 125kg lol .Last picture deca 400mg, 40mg dbol. I think i was 120kg there.
@Flyingandrei now you are fully a part of the EVO family :D thank you for sharing your journey, it has been a hard but amazing one.

Body transformations are the hardest, especially with personal problems. Once that hits, all else goes down easy and things get hard, I know from personal experience. I was an alcoholic and drug addict for years, clean and sober for many years now but my life was hell during recovery.

EVO family is the place to get to your transformation goals and more, we are here for you.

I'll share a few thoughts, and @AE1079 can chime in as well.

Cycle
I like testosterone much more than dbol for you either way.
How about we start with sports TRT+?
300mgs testosterone/week split dose into 2 injections/week (150/150)
instead of more gear you can add light aromasin to help combat estrogen E2 (5mgs /week) as you're still leaning out.

PCT
You dont need pct, we will go from a blast higher dose, to light TRT like 50-100mgs/week.

Please share more day to day information with us.

Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger
cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

supplements
what digestive supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?
are you taking organ liver support like n2guard? its a must

pictures
please share pictures of you face blurred
pics of your meals as you go
pics of your training as you go
pics of your supps
pics of your gear

eBooks
download our eBooks and learn more about cycling:
https://irongorillas.com

Podcast
are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/

thank you and share more :)
 
@Flyingandrei now you are fully a part of the EVO family :D thank you for sharing your journey, it has been a hard but amazing one.

Body transformations are the hardest, especially with personal problems. Once that hits, all else goes down easy and things get hard, I know from personal experience. I was an alcoholic and drug addict for years, clean and sober for many years now but my life was hell during recovery.

EVO family is the place to get to your transformation goals and more, we are here for you.

I'll share a few thoughts, and @AE1079 can chime in as well.

Cycle
I like testosterone much more than dbol for you either way.
How about we start with sports TRT+?
300mgs testosterone/week split dose into 2 injections/week (150/150)
instead of more gear you can add light aromasin to help combat estrogen E2 (5mgs /week) as you're still leaning out.

PCT
You dont need pct, we will go from a blast higher dose, to light TRT like 50-100mgs/week.

Please share more day to day information with us.

Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger
cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

supplements
what digestive supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?
are you taking organ liver support like n2guard? its a must

pictures
please share pictures of you face blurred
pics of your meals as you go
pics of your training as you go
pics of your supps
pics of your gear

eBooks
download our eBooks and learn more about cycling:
https://irongorillas.com

Podcast
are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/

thank you and share more :)
Also we have other EVO family brothers logging and transforming, they are doing fasting, something I suggest you consider.

I posted this yesterday as well:

EVO Brothers with Logs
We have other amazing EVO brothers doing body transformations, you can check their logs.
@ElDurko is doing a huge fat loss push with 72 hour fasts - https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-transformation-log.101699/
@Dadbod1996 is working on fat loss with mainly OMAD and rolling fasting - https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-loss-testosterone-winstrol-cycle-log.100926/
 
great start to this log
i suggest setting some goals starting today where you want to be by page so and so
 
so the picture is on the left are what you look like today?
I'm a bit confused which is which
 
great start to this
it is a great opening to your log and we're going to support you
 
@Flyingandrei now you are fully a part of the EVO family :D thank you for sharing your journey, it has been a hard but amazing one.

Body transformations are the hardest, especially with personal problems. Once that hits, all else goes down easy and things get hard, I know from personal experience. I was an alcoholic and drug addict for years, clean and sober for many years now but my life was hell during recovery.

EVO family is the place to get to your transformation goals and more, we are here for you.

I'll share a few thoughts, and @AE1079 can chime in as well.

Cycle
I like testosterone much more than dbol for you either way.
How about we start with sports TRT+?
300mgs testosterone/week split dose into 2 injections/week (150/150)
instead of more gear you can add light aromasin to help combat estrogen E2 (5mgs /week) as you're still leaning out.

PCT
You dont need pct, we will go from a blast higher dose, to light TRT like 50-100mgs/week.

Please share more day to day information with us.

Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger
cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

supplements
what digestive supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?
are you taking organ liver support like n2guard? its a must

pictures
please share pictures of you face blurred
pics of your meals as you go
pics of your training as you go
pics of your supps
pics of your gear

eBooks
download our eBooks and learn more about cycling:
https://irongorillas.com

Podcast
are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/

thank you and
bro yo should aspire to be huge
i like my men BIG
Its not good for jiujitsu bro. You cant move when your yolked its harder to do submissions etc.

Mens physique is probably the look id try achieve. I do like mens physique though 💪🏽
 
great start to this
it is a great opening to your log and we're going to support you
Thanks man. I appreciate it 🙏🏼
so the picture is on the left are what you look like today?
I'm a bit confused which is which
The very last picture. With the black singlet and red weight machines is current.

I will start to look flatter now though as im cutting and down almost 2.5 kg and my macros have changed to less carbohydrates so less fullness.
 
Its not good for jiujitsu bro. You cant move when your yolked its harder to do submissions etc.

Mens physique is probably the look id try achieve. I do like mens physique though 💪🏽
you quoted me and @BodyMonster34
I actually dont think you should be huge lol :D but BM is hardcore he thinks that about many guys

I think you're on the right track lets get more info training/diet up as you go so we can shred you up to the max.
 
@Flyingandrei now you are fully a part of the EVO family :D thank you for sharing your journey, it has been a hard but amazing one.

Body transformations are the hardest, especially with personal problems. Once that hits, all else goes down easy and things get hard, I know from personal experience. I was an alcoholic and drug addict for years, clean and sober for many years now but my life was hell during recovery.

EVO family is the place to get to your transformation goals and more, we are here for you.

I'll share a few thoughts, and @AE1079 can chime in as well.

Cycle
I like testosterone much more than dbol for you either way.
How about we start with sports TRT+?
300mgs testosterone/week split dose into 2 injections/week (150/150)
instead of more gear you can add light aromasin to help combat estrogen E2 (5mgs /week) as you're still leaning out.

PCT
You dont need pct, we will go from a blast higher dose, to light TRT like 50-100mgs/week.

Please share more day to day information with us.

Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger
cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

supplements
what digestive supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?
are you taking organ liver support like n2guard? its a must

pictures
please share pictures of you face blurred
pics of your meals as you go
pics of your training as you go
pics of your supps
pics of your gear

eBooks
download our eBooks and learn more about cycling:
https://irongorillas.com

Podcast
are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/

thank you and share more :)
@LevButlerov

CYCLE ADVICE
sounds good! I will get all this ready. It will take me a couple of weeks as i need to order etc

SUPPLEMENTS
Right now only supps im taking is the ones i will attach in photo below this post. The coach i had collaborates with vigerous Steve and on their youtube videos they share that orals arent as toxic as we think and you can run for months with no issues

I don't claim to be a know it all im just saying my side of what ive been taught and if it is wrong then i have an open mind to fixing these such claims.
Digestive enzymes was pineapple.

As for food i get most of my calorie and macros hit from 80% food 20% other . I take potatoes and simple carbs during training. I dont do cheat binge day meals, I do tracked meals and i don't lie about what i track.

Daily food items Lean mince, potatoe, protein yogurts, pineapple, rice, sour patch kids (Intra training or pre training) eggs, cereal with skim milk. 30gram protein chocolate oak meals.
I do flexible dieting its what works for me for sustainability and consistency. I eat the same thing day in day out unless i want to swap it for a tracked meal with similar calories and macros.

When i lean down more and calories get tight I move towards high volume low calorie foods.

AROMASIN
I have arimidex pills UNTOUCHED in original tablet packaging i got years ago incase i ever started test these should be fine yes? I will update with what mg they are per pill and brand.

CURRENT CARDIO
10,000 steps per day but usually i hit
16,000 due to work its a lot of walking and manual labor.

TRAINING will update soon i do apple notes and copy paste.

THIS MORNINGS UPDATE starting week 3 of cut 114.8kg (253lbs) started November 11th 117kg.3 (257.94) lbs
great start to this log
i suggest setting some goals starting today where you want to be by page so and so
Yes quadsweep 🫡 i think so too. My orginal goal was a 16-20 week cut plus overall goal was elimination of brain fog, low energy and trash libido.
 
@LevButlerov

CYCLE ADVICE
sounds good! I will get all this ready. It will take me a couple of weeks as i need to order etc

SUPPLEMENTS
Right now only supps im taking is the ones i will attach in photo below this post. The coach i had collaborates with vigerous Steve and on their youtube videos they share that orals arent as toxic as we think and you can run for months with no issues

I don't claim to be a know it all im just saying my side of what ive been taught and if it is wrong then i have an open mind to fixing these such claims.
Digestive enzymes was pineapple.

As for food i get most of my calorie and macros hit from 80% food 20% other . I take potatoes and simple carbs during training. I dont do cheat binge day meals, I do tracked meals and i don't lie about what i track.

Daily food items Lean mince, potatoe, protein yogurts, pineapple, rice, sour patch kids (Intra training or pre training) eggs, cereal with skim milk. 30gram protein chocolate oak meals.
I do flexible dieting its what works for me for sustainability and consistency. I eat the same thing day in day out unless i want to swap it for a tracked meal with similar calories and macros.

When i lean down more and calories get tight I move towards high volume low calorie foods.

AROMASIN
I have arimidex pills UNTOUCHED in original tablet packaging i got years ago incase i ever started test these should be fine yes? I will update with what mg they are per pill and brand.

CURRENT CARDIO
10,000 steps per day but usually i hit
16,000 due to work its a lot of walking and manual labor.

TRAINING will update soon i do apple notes and copy paste.

THIS MORNINGS UPDATE starting week 3 of cut 114.8kg (253lbs) started November 11th 117kg.3 (257.94) lbs

Yes quadsweep 🫡 i think so too. My orginal goal was a 16-20 week cut plus overall goal was elimination of brain fog, low energy and trash libido.
@Flyingandrei good update lets add to this. :D I wont comment on other coaches or Steve as that would be rude but I have my own views.

Cycle
sure lets get the gear and start planning it
the arimidex is fine vs aromasin consider you already have it

Supplements
All steroids are toxic both to your liver kidneys and organs, level of toxicity does depend on the particular steroid and the dose of course.
Thats why we recommend n2guard which is made for organ liver support for steroid users, and they sponsor the EVO family as well, so of course this is bias, but I use n2guard and have my clients using it.

Digestive supplements and probiotics are a must daily, along with psyllium husk. Those are a must for long term health.

Training
will be waiting for more training updates

Cardio
I dont count steps as cardio, its best to mix in actual cardio into your training along with whatever steps you do.

Goals and fasting
I think we can go for 16 weeks and try to cut down to around 230-240lbs if you can do fasting, are you alright with doing lets say 24 hour fasting? how deep is your experience with it?
 
@Flyingandrei good update lets add to this. :D I wont comment on other coaches or Steve as that would be rude but I have my own views.

Cycle
sure lets get the gear and start planning it
the arimidex is fine vs aromasin consider you already have it

Supplements
All steroids are toxic both to your liver kidneys and organs, level of toxicity does depend on the particular steroid and the dose of course.
Thats why we recommend n2guard which is made for organ liver support for steroid users, and they sponsor the EVO family as well, so of course this is bias, but I use n2guard and have my clients using it.

Digestive supplements and probiotics are a must daily, along with psyllium husk. Those are a must for long term health.

Training
will be waiting for more training updates

Cardio
I dont count steps as cardio, its best to mix in actual cardio into your training along with whatever steps you do.

Goals and fasting
I think we can go for 16 weeks and try to cut down to around 230-240lbs if you can do fasting, are you alright with doing lets say 24 hour fasting? how deep is your experience with it?
Im not quite sold on the fasting man. I like to train with carbs in my system and protein after.

During our exams fasting was a tool to create a greater aggressive caloric deficit.

I do fast everyday but my fasts are more so i skip breakfast and eat my first meal around 11:30/ 12pm .This allows me to have 4 meals in a shorter time frame.

I am open minded to learning others methods though. I am highly a fan of people like paul revelia and layne Norton

All there clients end up jacked, flexible diet and they do steps over any cardio however they are natural.

Again im opened minded but I don't think doing 24 hour fasts is going to be a good tool to use for me.
 
Im not quite sold on the fasting man. I like to train with carbs in my system and protein after.

During our exams fasting was a tool to create a greater aggressive caloric deficit.

I do fast everyday but my fasts are more so i skip breakfast and eat my first meal around 11:30/ 12pm .This allows me to have 4 meals in a shorter time frame.

I am open minded to learning others methods though. I am highly a fan of people like paul revelia and layne Norton

All there clients end up jacked, flexible diet and they do steps over any cardio however they are natural.

Again im opened minded but I don't think doing 24 hour fasts is going to be a good tool to use for me.
@Flyingandrei ah so you do fasting? you start eating at 11:30 and when do you finish? that might be an 16/8 already, please give us more details

I think 24 hour fasts and 48-72 hour fasts are in the books if you want to lean out, just needs time for you to plan it.
 
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