Approved Log My First Log - testosterone masteron anavar npp

[LevButlerov]

Well I been getting weird sides I haven't had before. Done test npp mast 18 months ago. Sides were nothing like this. Abit of ED but it still worked. Last two weeks I started getting sides that got ever increasingly worse which are...
Bad bloating, mainly after eating, especially at night
Headache/migraines which gave me nausea
Hi/low moods which fluctuated quickly but the highs were much less
Abit of chest pain noticed in bed
Exxcess water on body especially face
Excess fat around nipples and waist (no itchiness or lumps around nipples)
Excess Redness face and neck
Muscle weakness, softness and loss of mass
Depressed mood alot and excess worry, dread, doom
Heightened anxiety, especially over simple things
No enjoyment thinking about things that would give me enjoyment thinking about like sex, training, life etc.
Short Bouts of anger, emotional type anger
Appetite is down
Gastrointestinal sides
A big side was weird tiredness, late afternoon early evening id get more tired than normal and go to sleep earlier

How can this be from the nandralone. The only difference between this cycle and my last was that my last I ran about 300mgs of mast. Atm I can only run 250 mast because waiting for supply's.
Test e has been 350 npp 300 increased to 350 last few weeks.
I started a few days after x mas. If it was from the nandralone phenyl prop wouldn't I have noticed these sides earlier, and last cycle I only really noticed the ED which was minor and the water an moon face wasn't anything as bad. Just koz I'm running mast abit lower 8 don't think personally it's from the npp. I crashed e2 on my last cycle and know what low e2 feels like and it feels similar in many ways except low e2 felt super more depressed and less motivated.

When I crashed e2 I started aromasin 25mg and used 25mg and done it 3 days in a row, bang, low e2 hit me quick. So for 8 days I been taking 12.5 mgs every second day, starting to feel better. But I also haven't had npp in 6 days, just been having test 400 pw mast 250 pw.

On top of this I spent Sunday Monday Tuesday Wednesday helping my landlord move houses. (not her address where I live) that job was hard work x5 3 ton truck loads just me her an my gf. I went back to the gym today to do abit koz I'm feeling better. Should I re start the npp. I didn't get this early last year when I ran the same cycle....

I know what highish e2 feels like. It's normal on cycle and it's normally enjoyable. It was such a strange but also very noticeable change over about 2 weeks, the sides I mentioned just slowly became more apparent, they kept creeping up on me until I was like wtf, this isn't good. Then you realize how much it's effecting your day to day life because you feel so shit you just want it to stop and you become so frustrated and pissed off at yourself because only two weeks back the cycle was going great guns and only gonna get better. So it's very confusing and depressing knowing that something's wrong and it's detrimental to your health and shitfull for your short term gains from the cycle at which point it's like well i gotta let that go and not worry about the cycle because my long term is more important...

Anyway I'll keep chugging 12.5 mgs aro e2d and see how I feel tomorrow n Sunday...

@Npcclassicphysique champ

Btw I correct my npp dose. I was taking 400/450mg npp the last two weeks of it, 350 before that (stopped 7 days ago). Also I was getting weird jealousy and other negative psychological thoughts.
And Yeah I know I should be getting bloods done brothers.
I must be getting sides from the npp too. But with the number of sides and the progressive snowball effect that it was, it's gotta be e2. I think I will try again with npp and run at 200mg a week. At least if I feel the sides coming back I can stop it straight up. 7 days since last had npp so not to late to continue it. The excess fat around the nipples and waist must be sure sign of high e2.
Anyway let me know what you guys think. I done a disappearing act on here for afew days. It was very strange guys.

Guess I convert to e2 pretty well?
Youd think the small 250mg of mast pw would stop high e2 considering my test and npp dose?

Oh and I forgot to mention. Going back two three weeks(started cycle about 5 weeks ago) I was feeling amazing on the cycle. Like when I ran my last cycle ages back first time using npp and mast. It was giving me a positive mental effect.... If that's the case then it must start to effect me negatively of I go above 300mg PW...

@Andrewgenic actually NPP can give you mental sides, like other nandrolones, combine with clear high estrogen e2 symptoms you described here.

I would try this, drop all your gear, and stay on 250mgs testosterone/week with 10mgs aromasin mon/wed/fri try this for 2 weeks to level out your mood and how you feel.

@AE1079 @Pigsy @Noah Wixx @s.gentz can you comment on this E2 issue please

 

[s.gentz]

@Andrewgenic actually NPP can give you mental sides, like other nandrolones, combine with clear high estrogen e2 symptoms you described here.

I would try this, drop all your gear, and stay on 250mgs testosterone/week with 10mgs aromasin mon/wed/fri try this for 2 weeks to level out your mood and how you feel.

@AE1079 @Pigsy @Noah Wixx @s.gentz can you comment on this E2 issue please

I would tend to agree with @LevButlerov. Drop back down to just test. Get estrogen under control and reassess. With Nandrolones usullly the longer your on the worse it gets.
For bloating try taking digestive enzymes with your meals. It has helped me when food is higher.

 

[Andrewgenic]

Thanks @s.gentz @LevButlerov
Now I don't really have actually experience using an ai. But I'd have thought if Im running aromasin at said dosage with test the same 400mg PW with the mast still there I could at least continue somewhat of a cycle

 

[stevesmi]

its possible you are having a bad reaction to the gear. basicaly your body feels like its under attack and is freaking out, add to that the additional sides that come with any cycle and you get a recipe for all the things you are experiencing at the same time. that is my best guess but best way to know is drop the gear and see if these sides improve then you will know

 

[LevButlerov]

Thanks @s.gentz @LevButlerov
Now I don't really have actually experience using an ai. But I'd have thought if Im running aromasin at said dosage with test the same 400mg PW with the mast still there I could at least continue somewhat of a cycle

I would start by dropping your gear doses first honestly.

 

[Andrewgenic]

its possible you are having a bad reaction to the gear. basicaly your body feels like its under attack and is freaking out, add to that the additional sides that come with any cycle and you get a recipe for all the things you are experiencing at the same time. that is my best guess but best way to know is drop the gear and see if these sides improve then you will know

Interesting.. can you tell me more about this or send link to something about it if possible

 

[ceo]

Bros. If you want to get your biceps strong, then weighted pull-ups are the best.

 

[ROIDDERS]

Be careful with the pull-downs.

They put an awful lot of pressure on your shoulders.

 

[chesty]

Very common mistake people over-train their shoulders and they pay for it.

 

[Ulter]

adjust what you're doing on the cycle.

These types of side effects are not something you can push through.

 

[e2]

Maybe you should get blood work done and maybe we can see something in there.

Don't ignore these major side effects though.

 

[2Thick]

why are you helping your landlord move houses?

Moving is very bad. You can definitely cause a herniated disc.

 

[Vadim Fedorov]

Yeah. Why don't you have your landlord hire her own movers? I hope she's paying you and you're not just doing it to be nice.

 

[Wootoom]

deca can cause some aggression in some people. especially when you stack with test

 

[Andrewgenic]

why are you helping your landlord move houses?

Moving is very bad. You can definitely cause a herniated disc.

Yeah. Why don't you have your landlord hire her own movers? I hope she's paying you and you're not just doing it to be nice.

Yeah your right Vadim. This woman is a pain. My fingers were that swollen each day. I had a big argument with her. I gotta find somewhere else to rent

 

[Andrewgenic]

She paid me. But it's not the full story. But hey when I have time I might give you the story on this woman. 500 dollars for me and my partner for 32 hour work for us. So 64 hours total. Doing this for her, one day it was 37, just ruined me. She's runs illegal rooming houses. She's a greedy money hungry Vietnamese lady

 

[Andrewgenic]

adjust what you're doing on the cycle.

These types of side effects are not something you can push through.

Yeah bruz. I definitely cannot push through this, I tapped days ago. It started getting bad. But bearable, then it got bader, then it just fully consumed me and was in a fight to get through it. So glad I got through the worst!

 

[Mobster]

You used the word 'crashed' in reference to e2. Are you taking a hammer approach to issues vs a more gentle one?

An obvious fix is to stop the NPP

 

[Mobster]

Be careful with the pull-downs.

They put an awful lot of pressure on your shoulders.

Not as such. Too many allow what's called a partial dislocation (allowing the joint to relax under load). Then bitch about issues

 

[Andrewgenic]

You used the word 'crashed' in reference to e2. Are you taking a hammer approach to issues vs a more gentle one?

An obvious fix is to stop the NPP

I haven't re read it but I was referring to when I crashed my e2 a year or so ago. Thats why I'm taking aromasin much lower dosage so that doesn't happen again. Yeah I stopped the npp mate. Been 7 days now and feel 50 percent better. So that with the low dose aro seems to have done the job. Definitely a learning lesson all this and won't make the same mistake again. Love this community bruz and without talking we got no talking lol. Positive energy and friendly bantar is positive energy. Question is can I run npp in the future or not again. I'm thinking it's dosed related and possible to run npp again in future with upmost caution.

I see saltiness better than some