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yup I agree with Monstro, bump that cardio up asap
I couldn’t inject quads. The pain is way to bad.
bro nice workout
I had a bag of oranges and just finished the last one! Got some blueberries today on grocery run, will eat tomorrow! But can i ask why oranges aren’t ok?
Also levbutlerov, i was reading your steroid book, that thing is amazing! Will def continue to read! Thank you!
How much protein shakes?
When u guys say cardio, do u mean light jog, running, or can i just walk / hike? I walk my dog daily for about an hour, does that count?
That is exactly what i found out lol.
Thank you for the encouragement!
4/9 log
Clif bar
Apple
3 eggs
Creatine
1 lavash flatbread
8 slice lean turkey deli meat
3 slice swiss cheese slices
2 tbsp olive oil
1 tomato
Romaine lettuce
1 string cheese
8 oz loin steak
Asparagus
1 tomato
1 banana, green, small
Exercist: rest day
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Forgot to address the fish oil on main reply, but ive ordered liquid fish oil on amazon, awaiting delivery. Will cont taking capsules until then!
4/8 log had a lot of family things past couple days so eating and sleepings been shit, but still got workout in! Hopefully can get back to normal schedule this week.
(Got home at 3 am, ate random bs)
3 clif bar
3 string cheese
Protein shake, creatine, fish oil
(Family function, random bs)
1.5 c white rice
4 oz oily chicken
1 meat pie
2 lavash flatbread
8 oz rotisserie turkey breast
1 tomato
1 tbsp olive oil
1 orange
Exercise:
Superset 3x12, 1 min rest (different gym, different weights, so worked almost to failure)
Cable Curl
Cable Tri Ext
Superset 3x12, 1 min rest
DB Curls 20 lb
EZ BB Skull crusher 60 lb
Superset 2x12, 1 min rest
DB Concentration Curl 17.5 lb
DB Tricep Kickback 17.5 lb
Planks 3x95 seconds, 30 sec rest
10 min treadmill
20 min stretching
Sorting out a funeral earlier this week (I also conducted the service) so I know what that's like
4/8 log had a lot of family things past couple days so eating and sleepings been shit, but still got workout in! Hopefully can get back to normal schedule this week.
(Got home at 3 am, ate random bs)
3 clif bar
3 string cheese
Protein shake, creatine, fish oil
(Family function, random bs)
1.5 c white rice
4 oz oily chicken
1 meat pie
2 lavash flatbread
8 oz rotisserie turkey breast
1 tomato
1 tbsp olive oil
1 orange
Exercise:
Superset 3x12, 1 min rest (different gym, different weights, so worked almost to failure)
Cable Curl
Cable Tri Ext
Superset 3x12, 1 min rest
DB Curls 20 lb
EZ BB Skull crusher 60 lb
Superset 2x12, 1 min rest
DB Concentration Curl 17.5 lb
DB Tricep Kickback 17.5 lb
Planks 3x95 seconds, 30 sec rest
10 min treadmill
20 min stretching
Trying to do same thing bro get back to normal routine
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I had a bag of oranges and just finished the last one! Got some blueberries today on grocery run, will eat tomorrow! But can i ask why oranges aren’t ok?
Also levbutlerov, i was reading your steroid book, that thing is amazing! Will def continue to read! Thank you!
How much protein shakes?
When u guys say cardio, do u mean light jog, running, or can i just walk / hike? I walk my dog daily for about an hour, does that count?
That is exactly what i found out lol.
Thank you for the encouragement!
4/9 log
Clif bar
Apple
3 eggs
Creatine
1 lavash flatbread
8 slice lean turkey deli meat
3 slice swiss cheese slices
2 tbsp olive oil
1 tomato
Romaine lettuce
1 string cheese
8 oz loin steak
Asparagus
1 tomato
1 banana, green, small
Exercist: rest day
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Forgot to address the fish oil on main reply, but ive ordered liquid fish oil on amazon, awaiting delivery. Will cont taking capsules until then!
You will need to boost capsule intake until the liquids arrive.
Lol I know very few people that can inject quads without pain. Lol I’ll stick with glutes and delts
Ah, so sorry to hear that. Condolences
You got it!
Will do, i bought this fish oil, hope its good?…click to enlargen
Me too now lol
4/10 Log
2 waffles
2 turkey patty
3 eggs
Protein/creatine
1/2 c blueberries
2 slice milton bread
8 slice lean turkey deli
3 slice thin swiss cheese
1 tbsp olive oil
1/2 tbsp lite mayo (will change this once bottle is finished)
Mustard
1 roma tomato
3 pickle spears
1 banana
Asparagus
8 oz loin steak
1 apple
Exercise: 3 mile hike, 23’14” pace, avg heart rate 123 bpm. Had to keep stopping though because temp was too hot for dog.
Ah, so sorry to hear that. Condolences
You got it!
Will do, i bought this fish oil, hope its good?…click to enlargen
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Me too now lol
4/10 Log
2 waffles
2 turkey patty
3 eggs
Protein/creatine
1/2 c blueberries
2 slice milton bread
8 slice lean turkey deli
3 slice thin swiss cheese
1 tbsp olive oil
1/2 tbsp lite mayo (will change this once bottle is finished)
Mustard
1 roma tomato
3 pickle spears
1 banana
Asparagus
8 oz loin steak
1 apple
Exercise: 3 mile hike, 23’14” pace, avg heart rate 123 bpm. Had to keep stopping though because temp was too hot for dog.
Fish oil is good start it and we'll see.
Why dont you change mayo now, why wait?
Great updates man. Nice to see someone so open to feedback!
Log updates are good dude.....keep it up..........
- Just got the liquid fish oil this afternoon, will start tomorrow!
- It feels like a waste to throw away good mayo, plus theres only probably a few servings left.
4/11 log
Super busy work day, ate what i could because appetite just not there. Also, sleeps been terrible, only got 4 hours last night. Try again tomorrow!
1 tamale, shrimp & cheese (from coworker)
1 c brown rice
1 c frozen veggies
3 oz chicken breast
3 oz chicken thigh
2 slice milton bread
8 slice lean turkey deli meat
2 slice thin swiss cheese
1 slice american cheese
1/2 tbsp mayo
3 low fat string cheese
1 c blueberries
Exercise: 45 min dog walk, rest day
Steps: 11,500
- Just got the liquid fish oil this afternoon, will start tomorrow!
- It feels like a waste to throw away good mayo, plus theres only probably a few servings left.
4/11 log
Super busy work day, ate what i could because appetite just not there. Also, sleeps been terrible, only got 4 hours last night. Try again tomorrow!
1 tamale, shrimp & cheese (from coworker)
1 c brown rice
1 c frozen veggies
3 oz chicken breast
3 oz chicken thigh
2 slice milton bread
8 slice lean turkey deli meat
2 slice thin swiss cheese
1 slice american cheese
1/2 tbsp mayo
3 low fat string cheese
1 c blueberries
Exercise: 45 min dog walk, rest day
Steps: 11,500
your diet is looking better I see you're changing the fruit, perfect
the cheese, try to get some RAW cheese
Thanks! I’ll look for the raw cheese and give it a try. Im lactose intolerant though, so we will see.
4/12 log
3 eggs
Protein shake
1 tbsp fish oil
2 slice milton bread
8 slice lean deli ham
1/2 tbsp mayo
Mustard
Romaine lettuce
1 c blueberries
1 tbs fish oil
2 bananas
Asparagus
8 oz salmon
3 low fat string cheese
Superset, 3 min rest
Smith BB Bench 3 x 8 x 165, 175, 185
Smith BB Row 3 x 8 x 165, 175, 185
Superset, 3 min rest
Incline Chest Press 3 x 8 x 55, 70, 85 x 5
Seated Row 3 x 8 x 120, 140, 170
Superset, 1 min rest
Flat DB Fly 3 x 12 x 30 lb
Rear Delt Fly 3 x 12 x 15 lb
Ab X, 1 min rest - 3 x 25 reps (slow)
Had to go to planet fitness because i didnt have a chance to workout until 2300 (11 pm). So no cardio, am going hiking tomorrow though.
Steps: 13,600
Def want to follow this. So MD is going to run you a 10 week cycle then try and recover you? Doesn't make sense to me... trt is not 10 weeks... he suppressing you more then pulling test taking you to hcg...I don't like the sounds of this personally. Your gonna be on a 10 week high then all come crashing down unfortunately...SMH
Will update!
4/13 log
Missed out on a meal (breakfast) because running late.
Banana
poke bowl estimate
3 scoop fish
1 c soba noodle
1/2 c quinoa
Ponzu sauce
1 tbsp fish oil
2 string cheese
3 eggs
1.5 white rice
2 c Frozen veggies
3 oz chicken breast
3 oz chicken thigh
1 c blueberries
1 tbsp fish oil
Creatine
Exercise:
5 mile hike
A good question. I've touched on this before. There is, as there is with a LOT of OTC medication, the individual response. Some might feel like superman at 527 and another run down.
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527 is not high that means on a low testosterone day he would test around 400 range.
The proper testosterone range for a male around 40 is 700-900.
That goes against everything I've read. 700+ is more likely a make in their 20s.
Even 400 they consider normal, below 300 seems to be the number from what I've read.
Do you have a link with this?
Im not knocking the guy, im just trying to get my head around it
Depends on what you read honestly. Normal male is 600+ but low testosterone has dropped that standard these days, you want to be on the TOP range of tests not bottom range, so even 400 lowest that's not good.
Anyhow I agree you need to post a LOG Journal so we can see what's happening with your diet, training cardio and so on to really help you.
you're not that old, you should be in the 600 range. why do you refuse to post your LOG journal?
Saw the question about test levels. Been crazy busy past couple days tho so i will reply when i get a chance to get on a desktop.
But here are my logs for 4/14 and 4/15!
4/14, on the road all day for work, no exercise, ate when and what i could
3 eggs
2 string cheese
Banana
Planters salted peanuts 49 grams
Mediterranean restaurant - estimates
1.5 c saffron rice
0.5 c diced potato
Pita bread
4 oz chicken breast
3 oz beef koobideh
2 oz shredded prime rib
1 roasted roma tomato
Probably lots of oil
Exercise: None
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4/15 log
1 c white rice
1 c veggies
4 oz chicken breast
4 oz chicken thigh
1 banana
1 low fat string cheese
1 scp protein, creatine
1 c milk
1 string cheese
1 c blueberries
8 slice lean ham deli meat
2 slice milton whole grain bread
1 tbsp fish oil
Poke bowl
0.5 c rice noodle
0.5 c kale
5 scoops protein (ahi, salmon, shrimp, spicy tuna, albacore)
Tons of veggies
Sesame oil + ponzu sauce
16 oz angry orchard (movies)
*busy gym, couldnt superset like usual
5x15, Leg ext, 1 min rest, 100x2,115x15,12,10
5x15, Leg curl,1 min rest, 80x15,15,15,15,15
4x8, V Squat, 2 min rest, 270,320,360,360
4x8, SLDL, 2 min rest, 145,145,145,145
3x15, Elev Scr., Int, 1 min rest, height 2,4,5
But here are my logs for 4/14 and 4/15!
4/14, on the road all day for work, no exercise, ate when and what i could
3 eggs
2 string cheese
Banana
Planters salted peanuts 49 grams
Mediterranean restaurant - estimates
1.5 c saffron rice
0.5 c diced potato
Pita bread
4 oz chicken breast
3 oz beef koobideh
2 oz shredded prime rib
1 roasted roma tomato
Probably lots of oil
Exercise: None
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4/15 log
1 c white rice
1 c veggies
4 oz chicken breast
4 oz chicken thigh
1 banana
1 low fat string cheese
1 scp protein, creatine
1 c milk
1 string cheese
1 c blueberries
8 slice lean ham deli meat
2 slice milton whole grain bread
1 tbsp fish oil
Poke bowl
0.5 c rice noodle
0.5 c kale
5 scoops protein (ahi, salmon, shrimp, spicy tuna, albacore)
Tons of veggies
Sesame oil + ponzu sauce
16 oz angry orchard (movies)
*busy gym, couldnt superset like usual
5x15, Leg ext, 1 min rest, 100x2,115x15,12,10
5x15, Leg curl,1 min rest, 80x15,15,15,15,15
4x8, V Squat, 2 min rest, 270,320,360,360
4x8, SLDL, 2 min rest, 145,145,145,145
3x15, Elev Scr., Int, 1 min rest, height 2,4,5
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Honestly you're too high carbs and a lot of breads and gluten it's not good. You should cut carbs down to about 100 and lower gluten intake.
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Keep digging away at it
Hey all, completely fell off these past couple days. No log, no exercise, and diet's been complete trash from a Tijuana trip. Will get back in the gym tomorrow though.
Onto the replies.
So the process began with a screening questionnaire on low t symptoms, to which I checked off 9 out of 10 symptoms. I then got my bloodwork, and once results were in, I had the appointment with the MD. I honestly thought he was not going to prescribe me anything since i am clearly in the middle range of the 300-1000. Instead, he referred to the symptoms I self reported I am experiencing, and said "youre in the 500s, our goal is to get you above 800 and this is the protocol..." I obviously wasnt going to say no nevermind, so im happy. Regarding the 300-1000 range, I did read somewhere that the study those values were derived from didnt take into account many factors of the male subjects including age. I didn't really explore this further since I was getting the prescription, but thought it interesting.
I agree completely, my diet needs improving. I will work on this by eating less processed foods, decreasing daily carbs, and increasing proteins from real food.
I'll also bump up the cardio. Regarding carbs, how many grams of carbs should I cut it down to? I know another member said 100, but man that is low. And yes I will begin meal prepping.
Thanks and will do!
Onto the replies.
So the process began with a screening questionnaire on low t symptoms, to which I checked off 9 out of 10 symptoms. I then got my bloodwork, and once results were in, I had the appointment with the MD. I honestly thought he was not going to prescribe me anything since i am clearly in the middle range of the 300-1000. Instead, he referred to the symptoms I self reported I am experiencing, and said "youre in the 500s, our goal is to get you above 800 and this is the protocol..." I obviously wasnt going to say no nevermind, so im happy. Regarding the 300-1000 range, I did read somewhere that the study those values were derived from didnt take into account many factors of the male subjects including age. I didn't really explore this further since I was getting the prescription, but thought it interesting.
I agree completely, my diet needs improving. I will work on this by eating less processed foods, decreasing daily carbs, and increasing proteins from real food.
I'll also bump up the cardio. Regarding carbs, how many grams of carbs should I cut it down to? I know another member said 100, but man that is low. And yes I will begin meal prepping.
Thanks and will do!
Yea man, when you fall off for a little bit best thing to do is just move on and get back on the train. Don't focus too much on it or it could drag you down. Just move forward.
waiting for tomorrow lets see how you do with the changes
I tries quads one time never again lol.
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