Approved Log My Pre-cycle TRT BPC157 healing Log

[ForeverBulk01]

Hey bros, I’ve been encouraged to start a log, so here it is, happy to hear opinions,

History

181 cm (5’11)
78 kg (172 pounds)
Bodyfat: (Dexa Scan – 18.5% total, lean arms, legs, main body-fat remaining sits in mid section)

Working out since 15, serious working out 20-26, commenced again at 30. Started TRT at 31 due to low levels over the course of a year and a half of bloodwork. 120mg a week of test, experimented as low as 80mg to 150mg, 120mg gave me upper levels within range for the past 3+ years without too much E2 issues (normally bloat, acne without low dose aromasin).

Goal

Repair finger pain, wrist and minor shoulder discomfort while trying to cut to less than 15% total BF. I have a lot of inflammatory issues, did medicals, not a condition, seems to be genetics, overall want to improve tendons, joints and anything that pushes for that collagen synthesis to support a proper future bulk without my joints being my downfall.

After initial 8-week period, lean bulk to approx. 85 kg (187 pounds)

Diet

Not 100% accurate as of recently I haven’t been weighting all my food, but have a good idea due to approx. same 5 meals in rotation. I know this is something I will have to fix and start weighting again, so calories/macros below not exact.

2,000 – 2,300 Calories
160-175 grams Protein
230-250 grams Carbs
55-70 grams Fat

No fast food, alcohol and minimal processed foods.

Meals consist between the following, tend to jump between about 5 total different meals;

Meal 1:
Lean bacon, eggs, carb option (toast, oats) + natural Greek yogurt.

Meal 2:
Chicken/Beef/Fish with carb option (pasta, rice, sweet potato) + vegetables.

Meal 3:
Chicken/Beef/Fish with carb option (pasta, rice, sweet potato) + vegetables.

Meal 4:
Protein shake, oats, fiber supplement.

Snack:
Occasional small sweet (less than 100 calories)

Training

Currently a bro-split.

Monday: Chest/Tris
Weds: Back/Bis
Friday: Shoulders/Legs

30 minutes of cardio 6-7 days a week.

This will be adjusted when I start my bulk, have rough plan as of now.

Daily Supplements:

Vitamin C – 500 mg
Vitamin D – 1,000 IU
Vitman K – 180 mcg
Vitamin B Complex
Zinc – 25 mg
CoQ10 – 150 mg
Fish Oil – 2,000 mg
Magnesium 400 mg
Calcium 300 mg
Glucosamine 1500 mg

Digestive Enzyme
Probiotic

Workout Day Supplements

Pre-Workout
Arginine 500 mg
Citrulline 250 mg

Additional Healing Supplements When BPC commences

Vitamin K Complex
MSM
Collagen II

Current PEDs

Test-E: 120mg Week (Mon/Thurs Pin)
HCG: 500 IU Week (Mon/Thurs Pin)

Previous PEDs

TRT+ as below;

BPC, TB4 and CJC to treat injuries during that time (shoulder rotary cuff, knee) in two separates 8-week cycles in a one year period. Found BPC most effective as I have used all on separate occasions and in conjunction with each other with 90% healed alongside physio.

Anavar for composition and collagen synthesis for a 6+ week period of 20mg per day pre-workout. Assisted in tennis elbow issues, but didn’t help fingers, wrist and minor shoulder discomfort.

Planned PEDs

For healing period during last couple months of cut;

BPC-157: 250 mcg daily - 8 weeks to repair any injuries prior to commencing cycle, open to increasing dosage depending on results.

After 8 weeks; potentially;

Test-E: 300mg Week (Mon/Thurs Pin) (8 weeks – if bloods fine, titrate up 100-200 mg more)
HCG: 500 IU Week (Mon/Thurs Pin)

Plan for on-hand PEDs:

Masteron (If E2 elevated more than Aromasin low dose, introduce 100mg+ a week)
BPC-157: 250 mcg daily (if required after 4-8 week break)

I'd love HGH at a 2-3 IU but unfortunately it's not within the budget at this time.

Pharmaceuticals

Aromasin: 6.25mg (Tues/Fri)

 

[LevButlerov]

Hey bros, I’ve been encouraged to start a log, so here it is, happy to hear opinions,

History

181 cm (5’11)
78 kg (172 pounds)
Bodyfat: (Dexa Scan – 18.5% total, lean arms, legs, main body-fat remaining sits in mid section)

Working out since 15, serious working out 20-26, commenced again at 30. Started TRT at 31 due to low levels over the course of a year and a half of bloodwork. 120mg a week of test, experimented as low as 80mg to 150mg, 120mg gave me upper levels within range for the past 3+ years without too much E2 issues (normally bloat, acne without low dose aromasin).

Goal

Repair finger pain, wrist and minor shoulder discomfort while trying to cut to less than 15% total BF. I have a lot of inflammatory issues, did medicals, not a condition, seems to be genetics, overall want to improve tendons, joints and anything that pushes for that collagen synthesis to support a proper future bulk without my joints being my downfall.

After initial 8-week period, lean bulk to approx. 85 kg (187 pounds)

Diet

Not 100% accurate as of recently I haven’t been weighting all my food, but have a good idea due to approx. same 5 meals in rotation. I know this is something I will have to fix and start weighting again, so calories/macros below not exact.

2,000 – 2,300 Calories
160-175 grams Protein
230-250 grams Carbs
55-70 grams Fat

No fast food, alcohol and minimal processed foods.

Meals consist between the following, tend to jump between about 5 total different meals;

Meal 1:
Lean bacon, eggs, carb option (toast, oats) + natural Greek yogurt.

Meal 2:
Chicken/Beef/Fish with carb option (pasta, rice, sweet potato) + vegetables.

Meal 3:
Chicken/Beef/Fish with carb option (pasta, rice, sweet potato) + vegetables.

Meal 4:
Protein shake, oats, fiber supplement.

Snack:
Occasional small sweet (less than 100 calories)

Training

Currently a bro-split.

Monday: Chest/Tris
Weds: Back/Bis
Friday: Shoulders/Legs

30 minutes of cardio 6-7 days a week.

This will be adjusted when I start my bulk, have rough plan as of now.

Daily Supplements:

Vitamin C – 500 mg
Vitamin D – 1,000 IU
Vitman K – 180 mcg
Vitamin B Complex
Zinc – 25 mg
CoQ10 – 150 mg
Fish Oil – 2,000 mg
Magnesium 400 mg
Calcium 300 mg
Glucosamine 1500 mg

Digestive Enzyme
Probiotic

Workout Day Supplements

Pre-Workout
Arginine 500 mg
Citrulline 250 mg

Additional Healing Supplements When BPC commences

Vitamin K Complex
MSM
Collagen II

Current PEDs

Test-E: 120mg Week (Mon/Thurs Pin)
HCG: 500 IU Week (Mon/Thurs Pin)

Previous PEDs

TRT+ as below;

BPC, TB4 and CJC to treat injuries during that time (shoulder rotary cuff, knee) in two separates 8-week cycles in a one year period. Found BPC most effective as I have used all on separate occasions and in conjunction with each other with 90% healed alongside physio.

Anavar for composition and collagen synthesis for a 6+ week period of 20mg per day pre-workout. Assisted in tennis elbow issues, but didn’t help fingers, wrist and minor shoulder discomfort.

Planned PEDs

For healing period during last couple months of cut;

BPC-157: 250 mcg daily - 8 weeks to repair any injuries prior to commencing cycle, open to increasing dosage depending on results.

After 8 weeks; potentially;

Test-E: 300mg Week (Mon/Thurs Pin) (8 weeks – if bloods fine, titrate up 100-200 mg more)
HCG: 500 IU Week (Mon/Thurs Pin)

Plan for on-hand PEDs:

Masteron (If E2 elevated more than Aromasin low dose, introduce 100mg+ a week)
BPC-157: 250 mcg daily (if required after 4-8 week break)

I'd love HGH at a 2-3 IU but unfortunately it's not within the budget at this time.

Pharmaceuticals

Aromasin: 6.25mg (Tues/Fri)

@ForeverBulk01 welcome welcome to the EVO family start by sharing a picture of you face blurred to see your base.

Please share more day to day information with us.

Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger
cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

supplements
what digestive supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?

pictures
please share pictures of you face blurred (every 1-2 weeks)
pics of your meals as you go
pics of your training as you go
pics of your supps
pics of your gear

eBooks
download our eBooks and learn more about cycling:
https://irongorillas.com

Podcast
are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/

thank you and share more

 

[stevesmi]

looks like a very nice setup so far. will be in !

 

[ForeverBulk01]

@ForeverBulk01 welcome welcome to the EVO family start by sharing a picture of you face blurred to see your base.

Please share more day to day information with us.

Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger
cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

supplements
what digestive supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?

pictures
please share pictures of you face blurred (every 1-2 weeks)
pics of your meals as you go
pics of your training as you go
pics of your supps
pics of your gear

eBooks
download our eBooks and learn more about cycling:
https://irongorillas.com

Podcast
are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/

thank you and share more

Thanks bro, I also aim to drink 3 lts of water a day, only supplement I haven't listed was Gelatin, I'm doing 1,200 mg a day, split in two doses, it seems to be helping with my elbow pain so far 4 weeks in

I'll have to grab some recent photos

looks like a very nice setup so far. will be in !

Thanks man much appreciated!

 

[Mobster]

What are you doing for the hands - grip etc is my specialty

 

[ceo]

Bros, 3 L of water a day is amazing. Good job.

 

[ROIDDERS]

Going to be a good one to follow. Can you post up some pictures ? So we can get a sense of where you're at right now.

 

[chesty]

I'll be following this one for sure.

What are you doing today over the weekend?

 

[Ulter]

Food looks really good. I like the set up looks very healthy to me.

 

[StevenDarwinMD]

APPROVED LOG

 

[e2]

Nice training split. Seems pretty simple.

 

[2Thick]

I wouldn't do a specific shoulder day. Along with legs.

Because you still train your shoulders on Monday and Wednesday.

 

[Vadim Fedorov]

Yeah, definitely don't over-train your shoulders so much that will lead to problems as you get older.

 

[Wootoom]

Wow, I'm surprised you have that much body fat.

Because you're tall, and the only way 172 lbs. So pictures are worth 1000 words on this 1.

 

[JasonPriest]

Going to be good to see how this works for you.

any thoughts of swapping out the hcg for anavar though?

 

[BodyMonster34]

bro good that you eating lots of beef
Hope it is grass-fed. And from Texas, though.

 

[Quadsweep]

Good job man. No alcohol or fast food in minimal processed foods. Sounds really good. That's a great start.

 

[LevButlerov]

Thanks bro, I also aim to drink 3 lts of water a day, only supplement I haven't listed was Gelatin, I'm doing 1,200 mg a day, split in two doses, it seems to be helping with my elbow pain so far 4 weeks in

I'll have to grab some recent photos



Thanks man much appreciated!

Waiting to see your pics please update @ForeverBulk01

 

[ForeverBulk01]

What are you doing for the hands - grip etc is my specialty

I'd do dead hangs and don't laugh too hard but hand grippers haha, but as of recently more so harder stress balls in a physio sense, I always thought about doing the rice bucket training for lower impact on the joints, whats your opinion man?

Going to be a good one to follow. Can you post up some pictures ? So we can get a sense of where you're at right now.

I sure can mate, I have zero posing skills but I'll post some below

I'll be following this one for sure.

What are you doing today over the weekend?

Not much at all to be honest, bit of a difficult Friday, so just low impact cardio and meal prep

Food looks really good. I like the set up looks very healthy to me.

Thanks bro much appreciated!

Nice training split. Seems pretty simple.

Yeah its straight forward and I find the bro split the most fun, I'll break down the exercises for you guys soon

I wouldn't do a specific shoulder day. Along with legs.

Because you still train your shoulders on Monday and Wednesday.

You guys aren't wrong, but when I had my shoulder injury it prevented me doing any shoulder exercises and even limited chest exercises for a year, this made me want to catch up (they were under developed) but I left it in just because I love the look haha

Wow, I'm surprised you have that much body fat.

Because you're tall, and the only way 172 lbs. So pictures are worth 1000 words on this 1.

I'm a little iffy to be honest with the dexa scan, I always have vascular biceps, arms, etc, however I have a literal gut to a extent still, but please let me know your thoughts from the pics

Waiting to see your pics please update @ForeverBulk01

Coming up, didnt have any on hand! These are the only recent ones I have (last fortnight)

 

[ForeverBulk01]

A few more details for you guys:

Other PED uses

I forgot to mention that I did 14 weeks of low dose deca with my TRT+ two years ago.

This was 50 mg per week, split in two doses, along with 120 mg of test per week. To try combat my joint issues, from my notes, it did help discomfort by about 50%, but as most of you know, it didn't heal my issues at all, only lubricated my joints, I never finished the vial, and stopped it 2 weeks earlier than intended, as I was unfortunately susceptible to the mental sides of 19nors. E.g. quick to anger, somewhat paranoid, and even somewhat depressed. My bloods only shown elevated E2 levels at the time, everything else seemed fine (other than minor LDL and HDL out of range) but not something I'd consider again.

Home gym (Currently)

Currently I workout from my home gym, which consists of the following equipment:

• Adjustable bench
• Home gym multi-station (various attachments - added image for example) with horizontal leg press
• Stationary bike
• Magnet rowing machine (I honestly don't use it and really feel I should)
• Various basic dumbbells, straight bar, easy curl bar, etc

I plan on joining another gym this year, more so when I have some extra funds (everything's expensive as hell nowadays as you all know) so if I can make due with what I go that'll definitely be the go for me

One of my main issues (joints, joints and joints)

As mentioned above, I have joint issues, I do have mild arthritis in my wrist caused from impact/small fracture and overall wear and tear. I'm prone to these kinds of injuries overall and have many small areas with issues, hence the plan to do this healing pre cycle for my eventual bulk and blast this year where I'm not afraid of of progressive overload, I tend to do other methods, e.g.

• Slowing down certain reps (3-6 seconds)
• Always focusing on technique
• Other ways of progressive overload, e.g. adding a 4th set but doing 6 reps, then 8, 10, eventually raising the weight and going back to 3 sets

I do have a fear of getting more injuries, especially in my age, I'm sure most of you know this feeling, how do you get over the fear of pushing yourself harder at risk of injury?

Supplement research

I've been doing more research into improving joints/collagen through supplements, as mentioned I have past experience using peptides to recover which were very successful, but I think I screwed up where I didn't feed my body enough nutrients/micro-nutrients as I thought I was, no point forcing collagen synthesis but not feeding it.

The new addition as mentioned above which I already started will definitely be gelatin at 1,200 mg a day, I plan on potentially bringing this up to 1,800 mg during my BPC cycle, based on this study for osteoarthritis https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9003490/

Collagen type 2, but perhaps a complex to include type 1 and 3? I understand this is more so for skin, nails, hair etc, but what are your collagen supplements like?

General note: I also keep E2 on the higher reference level for joint health, I don't want anything to inhibit collagen synthesis and joint health.