Approved Log My road to recovery- Testosterone Masteron Log

[sifnezzz]

Hi all just gonna start a log if allowed.... kind of as a motivation to myself to help myself hopefully recover what I've lost in the past year due to severe injuries and surgeries, to hopefully get myself into even better shape than before...
Had to basically stop for a whole year since March 2024 after getting my triceps tendon torn and diagnosed with arthritis in my elbow as well which both required surgery, and also for my ruptured disc on my L5/L4/S1 which plagued me for many years.

Last year before injury:

Currently:

So some basic info:
Previous cycle was from November 2023 to March 2024:
got down to 76kg
100mg test p/w
40mg primo e p/w
160mg mast e p/w
20mg var preworkout on training days only (since January 2024)
10mg tbol preworkout on training days only (only did about a month of tbol from feb)
2mg per week of retatrutide for 5 weeks (1 vial)

• Age: 36
• Height: 179cm
• Weight: 84 atm
• Body Fat % (estimated): 20ish? feeling fat and heavy these days
• Training Experience (in years): 10+ years on and off, mostly cardio and training for sport (Cricket and my racket sport)

Current Training:

Just cardio and staple compound exercises except dead lifts which kills my back still to get hopefully some muscle memory back for a few weeks as right elbow still a bit sore from the November surgery, especially doing any tricep extension exercises.

Diet:

3 Weetbix or some crunchy nut for breakfast or nothing when I do fasted cardio
lunch some instant ramen or banh mi or rare beef pho
Dinner: whatever the wife cooks which usually pretty nutritious
No more desserts unless special occasions.

Supplements:

Either 2 nespresso coffee pods or a can of aldi flying power sugar free pre-workout
Magnesium
Zinc
1000mg agmatine pre workout
1.5g Glucosamine Sulfate

Bloodwork:

Get bloodwork every few months as I've been on prescribed Iso-tretinoin 40mg/day for over half a year now.

Cycle Plan and goals:

To get fitness back and be ready for the next cricket season plus my other winter sports.... lose a lot of weight and get muscle definition back.
To be able to do at least 100 pullups per day again plus weighted ones.
Will start slow and this log will serve as a kind of motivational thing for myself to hopefully not slack and get focused.

Will do 100mg of Test E and 200mg of Mast E per week plus 10mg tbol preworkout as I've still got leftovers and don't want to do anything too crazy out the blocks.
Gonna take it slow and see how the bloodwork goes at the next derma appointment and probably add in some var pre workout as I have a new bottle ready after my overseas trip in May.

Will be looking to hit the gym 6-7 times a week as I used to always do as I'm not looking for actual bodybuilding style training but training more tailored for my sports that I play quite passionately.
Will be doing cardio everyday and do shoulders/back/core everyday as they are very important for me plus mild leg work as well.


Anyways thanks for reading my mumbo jumbo rambling if you could be bothered!
Hopefully in a few months I can feel fit again and not like a lazy fat sloth lol

 

[s.gentz]

Hi all just gonna start a log if allowed.... kind of as a motivation to myself to help myself hopefully recover what I've lost in the past year due to severe injuries and surgeries, to hopefully get myself into even better shape than before...
Had to basically stop for a whole year since March 2024 after getting my triceps tendon torn and diagnosed with arthritis in my elbow as well which both required surgery, and also for my ruptured disc on my L5/L4/S1 which plagued me for many years.

Last year before injury:

Currently:

So some basic info:
Previous cycle was from November 2023 to March 2024:
got down to 76kg
100mg test p/w
40mg primo e p/w
160mg mast e p/w
20mg var preworkout on training days only (since January 2024)
10mg tbol preworkout on training days only (only did about a month of tbol from feb)
2mg per week of retatrutide for 5 weeks (1 vial)

• Age: 36
• Height: 179cm
• Weight: 84 atm
• Body Fat % (estimated): 20ish? feeling fat and heavy these days
• Training Experience (in years): 10+ years on and off, mostly cardio and training for sport (Cricket and my racket sport)

Current Training:

Just cardio and staple compound exercises except dead lifts which kills my back still to get hopefully some muscle memory back for a few weeks as right elbow still a bit sore from the November surgery, especially doing any tricep extension exercises.

Diet:

3 Weetbix or some crunchy nut for breakfast or nothing when I do fasted cardio
lunch some instant ramen or banh mi or rare beef pho
Dinner: whatever the wife cooks which usually pretty nutritious
No more desserts unless special occasions.

Supplements:

Either 2 nespresso coffee pods or a can of aldi flying power sugar free pre-workout
Magnesium
Zinc
1000mg agmatine pre workout
1.5g Glucosamine Sulfate

Bloodwork:

Get bloodwork every few months as I've been on prescribed Iso-tretinoin 40mg/day for over half a year now.

Cycle Plan and goals:

To get fitness back and be ready for the next cricket season plus my other winter sports.... lose a lot of weight and get muscle definition back.
To be able to do at least 100 pullups per day again plus weighted ones.
Will start slow and this log will serve as a kind of motivational thing for myself to hopefully not slack and get focused.

Will do 100mg of Test E and 200mg of Mast E per week plus 10mg tbol preworkout as I've still got leftovers and don't want to do anything too crazy out the blocks.
Gonna take it slow and see how the bloodwork goes at the next derma appointment and probably add in some var pre workout as I have a new bottle ready after my overseas trip in May.

Will be looking to hit the gym 6-7 times a week as I used to always do as I'm not looking for actual bodybuilding style training but training more tailored for my sports that I play quite passionately.
Will be doing cardio everyday and do shoulders/back/core everyday as they are very important for me plus mild leg work as well.


Anyways thanks for reading my mumbo jumbo rambling if you could be bothered!
Hopefully in a few months I can feel fit again and not like a lazy fat sloth lol

Welcome back @sifnezzz!
Good to see you are in a place where you are injury free and can rebuild!! Will be following.

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Hi all just gonna start a log if allowed.... kind of as a motivation to myself to help myself hopefully recover what I've lost in the past year due to severe injuries and surgeries, to hopefully get myself into even better shape than before...
Had to basically stop for a whole year since March 2024 after getting my triceps tendon torn and diagnosed with arthritis in my elbow as well which both required surgery, and also for my ruptured disc on my L5/L4/S1 which plagued me for many years.

Last year before injury:

Currently:

So some basic info:
Previous cycle was from November 2023 to March 2024:
got down to 76kg
100mg test p/w
40mg primo e p/w
160mg mast e p/w
20mg var preworkout on training days only (since January 2024)
10mg tbol preworkout on training days only (only did about a month of tbol from feb)
2mg per week of retatrutide for 5 weeks (1 vial)

• Age: 36
• Height: 179cm
• Weight: 84 atm
• Body Fat % (estimated): 20ish? feeling fat and heavy these days
• Training Experience (in years): 10+ years on and off, mostly cardio and training for sport (Cricket and my racket sport)

Current Training:

Just cardio and staple compound exercises except dead lifts which kills my back still to get hopefully some muscle memory back for a few weeks as right elbow still a bit sore from the November surgery, especially doing any tricep extension exercises.

Diet:

3 Weetbix or some crunchy nut for breakfast or nothing when I do fasted cardio
lunch some instant ramen or banh mi or rare beef pho
Dinner: whatever the wife cooks which usually pretty nutritious
No more desserts unless special occasions.

Supplements:

Either 2 nespresso coffee pods or a can of aldi flying power sugar free pre-workout
Magnesium
Zinc
1000mg agmatine pre workout
1.5g Glucosamine Sulfate

Bloodwork:

Get bloodwork every few months as I've been on prescribed Iso-tretinoin 40mg/day for over half a year now.

Cycle Plan and goals:

To get fitness back and be ready for the next cricket season plus my other winter sports.... lose a lot of weight and get muscle definition back.
To be able to do at least 100 pullups per day again plus weighted ones.
Will start slow and this log will serve as a kind of motivational thing for myself to hopefully not slack and get focused.

Will do 100mg of Test E and 200mg of Mast E per week plus 10mg tbol preworkout as I've still got leftovers and don't want to do anything too crazy out the blocks.
Gonna take it slow and see how the bloodwork goes at the next derma appointment and probably add in some var pre workout as I have a new bottle ready after my overseas trip in May.

Will be looking to hit the gym 6-7 times a week as I used to always do as I'm not looking for actual bodybuilding style training but training more tailored for my sports that I play quite passionately.
Will be doing cardio everyday and do shoulders/back/core everyday as they are very important for me plus mild leg work as well.


Anyways thanks for reading my mumbo jumbo rambling if you could be bothered!
Hopefully in a few months I can feel fit again and not like a lazy fat sloth lol

@sifnezzz welcome to the EVO family bro fully welcome now.

Can you share your bloods please? blur info

Please share more day to day information with us.

Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger
cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

supplements
what digestive supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?

pictures
please share pictures of you face blurred (every 1-2 weeks)
pics of your meals as you go
pics of your training as you go
pics of your supps
pics of your gear

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[sifnezzz]

Day 1 so far Morning:

50mg Test E / 100mg Mast E
1 x 10mg Tbol 7am in the morning
2 shots of Nespresso Intensity 8 Lungo crema coffee pods

Fasted Cardio 45 minutes on the Stair climbing machine -150 floors 500+ cals

Went to have a delicious feed of Rare Beef Pho for early lunch:

Drank 5.9g Metamucil fibre
Will hit some weights later after work.

 

[sifnezzz]

Had a decent mild session this arvo just to try and get all the cylinders firing a bit.

3 x 1min Planks
3 x 20 reps abs machine 15kg
3 sets x 15 x 55kg Machine Press warmup
3 sets x 12 x 85kg Machine Press
4 sets x 12 leg extensions 46kg
3 sets x 10 reps basic squats
3 x 2reps full body straight pullups full extension
3 x 6reps dips (any tricep exercise flares up the elbow joint at the moment still)
4 sets machine tricep extensions 5kg-10kg-15kg-20kg
4 x 10kg machine assisted goodmornings
Shadow training for footwork training 10minutes

Don't want to go too hard as the body will need ages to adjust back to training

Drank another 5.9g Metamucil post workout orange flavor very addictive.

Had a excellent cooked meal from the wife, satisfying noodles egg + beef

 

[LevButlerov]

Day 1 so far Morning:

50mg Test E / 100mg Mast E
1 x 10mg Tbol 7am in the morning
2 shots of Nespresso Intensity 8 Lungo crema coffee pods

Fasted Cardio 45 minutes on the Stair climbing machine -150 floors 500+ cals

Went to have a delicious feed of Rare Beef Pho for early lunch:

Drank 5.9g Metamucil fibre
Will hit some weights later after work.

Had a decent mild session this arvo just to try and get all the cylinders firing a bit.

3 x 1min Planks
3 x 20 reps abs machine 15kg
3 sets x 15 x 55kg Machine Press warmup
3 sets x 12 x 85kg Machine Press
4 sets x 12 leg extensions 46kg
3 sets x 10 reps basic squats
3 x 2reps full body straight pullups full extension
3 x 6reps dips (any tricep exercise flares up the elbow joint at the moment still)
4 sets machine tricep extensions 5kg-10kg-15kg-20kg
4 x 10kg machine assisted goodmornings
Shadow training for footwork training 10minutes

Don't want to go too hard as the body will need ages to adjust back to training

Drank another 5.9g Metamucil post workout orange flavor very addictive.

Had a excellent cooked meal from the wife, satisfying noodles egg + beef

That is Vietnamese Pho soup right? You need extra beef on it. love the training

 

[stevesmi]

Don't worry muscle memory is a real thing in fact you'll have an amazing transformation because it'll be a lot easier for you to get back to where you were

 

[Mobster]

Tell us more about that surgery

 

[sifnezzz]

That is Vietnamese Pho soup right? You need extra beef on it. love the training

Thanks there was plenty of beef and tendon in there

Don't worry muscle memory is a real thing in fact you'll have an amazing transformation because it'll be a lot easier for you to get back to where you were

Thanks hope so!

Tell us more about that surgery

Well apologies firstly for the long stories I'll try and condense...


Have had chronic back issues since like 2004 which was originally a slipped disc on my left side only going down the sciatic nerves of the glutes and hamstrings. Was funny because originally the injury wasn't so severe and was from excessive bowling practice for cricket, and was advised 2 weeks rest by the docs, which meant during school I wasn't participating in any the sports etc during P.E. but instead doing the scoring from a top of the gym where you had to climb a ladder... and the serious back injury was actually from slipping on the ladder as I was climbing down and landing extremely awkwardly...

That issue with the back was slowly getting better year by year until unfortunately in 2008 due to a bad relationship state and some other factors, basically completely popped my back and crushed the nerves on my right side doing squats excessively and too heavy for myself.
That back injury has been the absolute long term bane for me ever since... I had to get sent to the emergency room and popped like 10 diff pills to manage the pain at the time.

The pain was insane and I couldn't believe how fast my right calves completely atrophied and I could not walk without a limp and the numbness was unbearable, plus could barely find a position where I could sleep properly without feeling like death.

Was going to get private surgery at the time as the public wait times in Aus was and still is ridiculous, but the surgeon was adamant and I quote what he said was "If it was my son, I wouldn't do the surgery now" and recommended instead some cortisone epidural and nerve injections instead along with rest and rehab.... He also said the numbness would go away in maybe 5 years lol... (never did)

It did eventually slowly get manageable over the years but my right calves never fully recovered and the numbness definitely did not go away all the way down the right side of my hamstrings and calves all the way down to the toes.

I always tried my hardest to focus a lot of the training onto the calves but no matter how much I trained, the left and right calves were just not the same. The right calves even with some muscle always was flat with a bit of a dent in (dunno how to accurately describe) and would always tire faster and felt weaker than my left.

It would cramp often too if I did a bit more calf raises and there always seemed to be DOM's for my right calves if i didn't train it for like a week and retrain it, it was like starting all over again kind of thing.

For my elbow injury, it was from extreme overuse and probably less than perfect technique for my 'racket' sport. I did play to a fairly high level (State) for it, so a lot of repetitive training was done weekly and I basically played it around 6 times a week, and I guess injury just developed over time from one which I'd pass off as a minor strain to a persistent issue.

The issue I think became exacerbated after 2016 and I began consulting a very reputable specialist Dr who's worked with the AUS cricket teams and also various Olympians. I think I've had literally had over 15+ scans to try and find the issue with the elbow which they say is one of the worst and most difficult to diagnose... Xrays/Ultrasounds/CT's/MRI's all done multiple times and through multiple Clinics and non could really pin point the issue which was the most frustrating aspect as people cannot really visualize the pain and distress that my kind of elbow injury was exhibiting.
We'd ended up deciding on the best form of treatment was doing rehab exercises and constant cortisone injections into the joint.

At first the cortisone worked well and the pain relief lasted for like 3-4 weeks and i could play freely, but every subsequent injection the relief plus duration seemed to be less and less, which was when the Dr decided I needed to get surgery on it back in 2020.

Unfortunately the surgery was less than successful, and it took me out of action for nearly a year before I tried playing cricket and my other sport again. I managed to try my best to play through the issues and reduced the cortisone injections for my elbow and for my back to just before tournaments which helped me at least perform to a respectable level during those periods.

I tried my best to train my body to as fit it could be with a ton of cardio and various other sports based gym training which managed to get me to get into a pretty good shape, even though I was quite 'gym fit' I was still severely hampered by my elbow and back issues and it all went to poop last year at a tournament literally a couple of days before I was flying overseas for a holiday.

I not only managed to somehow cause a minor stress fracture to my back, but I completely ruptured my triceps tendon in the finals...
Needless to say the overseas trip was a horror show and I had to eat and go to the loo with my left hand ... plus a whole host of other issues which I won't mention.

Getting referred to a elbow specialist surgeon was the first thing I did when i got back (not the same surgeon as the previous surgery) and after a few more scans, I managed to get diagnosed with a torn tendon and also Osteoarthritis on my elbow joint. So I managed to get both surgeries done for my lower back and also for my elbow which they had to make 4 different incisions to fix and clean up the tendon plus joint stuff.

So here I am after months and finally getting the approval from the Dr + Surgeon to resume training again... and I've spent a couple of weeks doing light cardio and stretches already prior to this log and I gotta say oh boy... it is quite hard to train up again haha, kind of like going down from near the top of a mountain and trying to climb from the bottom again! Especially when there is still some lingering pains that doesn't ever seem they will fully go away with both my elbow and my back even though they are already much better than previously.
Will try my best to strengthen up and hopefully fingers crossed stay injury free from now on... Still wanna enjoy sports !

 

[sifnezzz]

Today the body was suffering a fair bit of dom's from yesterday, especially in the knees and legs from the stair-master.
So took it easy with no gym till the arvo.

Had 2 pieces of wholemeal bread with some Cholesterol lowering butter for breakfast.

2 x 2 nespresso capsule shots no milk, one at breakfast and one 30min pre-gym training.

5 minutes of shadow training
45 minutes of elliptical machine at mild pace level 15
Fullbody pullups - 4 / 2
Barbell wrist extensions 10kg - 50/30/20/20/20
Barbell wrist curls 10kgs - 50-40-30 15kgs - 30-20-20
4kg Dumbbell Forearm pronations each arm - 15/15/15
4kg Dumbbell Forearm supinations each arm - 15/15/15
4kg Dumbbell standing full forearm pronation and supination with arms extended straight - 12/12/12

Didn't have too much time, just wanting to focus on my forearm and grip strength a bit these days as I can feel it when i'm doing pullups the left arm is giving away and the grip is significantly weaker than previously.

Drank 5.9g metamucil post workout

Had a nice meal for dinner with some fried eggs and 1 banger

Will try to bed earlier but Monster Hunter Wilds is very addictive

 

[haldencapital]

Great log !! Will follow ! Glad to see that you have the motivation to get back to training after your injury. Sometimes very demotivating to get back on track. But don't worry, you are my age and with your foundation, muscle memory will kick in very quick. No doubt. Just stay consistent Thank you for sharing your story !

 

[LevButlerov]

Thanks there was plenty of beef and tendon in there


Thanks hope so!

Well apologies firstly for the long stories I'll try and condense...


Have had chronic back issues since like 2004 which was originally a slipped disc on my left side only going down the sciatic nerves of the glutes and hamstrings. Was funny because originally the injury wasn't so severe and was from excessive bowling practice for cricket, and was advised 2 weeks rest by the docs, which meant during school I wasn't participating in any the sports etc during P.E. but instead doing the scoring from a top of the gym where you had to climb a ladder... and the serious back injury was actually from slipping on the ladder as I was climbing down and landing extremely awkwardly...

That issue with the back was slowly getting better year by year until unfortunately in 2008 due to a bad relationship state and some other factors, basically completely popped my back and crushed the nerves on my right side doing squats excessively and too heavy for myself.
That back injury has been the absolute long term bane for me ever since... I had to get sent to the emergency room and popped like 10 diff pills to manage the pain at the time.

The pain was insane and I couldn't believe how fast my right calves completely atrophied and I could not walk without a limp and the numbness was unbearable, plus could barely find a position where I could sleep properly without feeling like death.

Was going to get private surgery at the time as the public wait times in Aus was and still is ridiculous, but the surgeon was adamant and I quote what he said was "If it was my son, I wouldn't do the surgery now" and recommended instead some cortisone epidural and nerve injections instead along with rest and rehab.... He also said the numbness would go away in maybe 5 years lol... (never did)

It did eventually slowly get manageable over the years but my right calves never fully recovered and the numbness definitely did not go away all the way down the right side of my hamstrings and calves all the way down to the toes.

I always tried my hardest to focus a lot of the training onto the calves but no matter how much I trained, the left and right calves were just not the same. The right calves even with some muscle always was flat with a bit of a dent in (dunno how to accurately describe) and would always tire faster and felt weaker than my left.

It would cramp often too if I did a bit more calf raises and there always seemed to be DOM's for my right calves if i didn't train it for like a week and retrain it, it was like starting all over again kind of thing.

For my elbow injury, it was from extreme overuse and probably less than perfect technique for my 'racket' sport. I did play to a fairly high level (State) for it, so a lot of repetitive training was done weekly and I basically played it around 6 times a week, and I guess injury just developed over time from one which I'd pass off as a minor strain to a persistent issue.

The issue I think became exacerbated after 2016 and I began consulting a very reputable specialist Dr who's worked with the AUS cricket teams and also various Olympians. I think I've had literally had over 15+ scans to try and find the issue with the elbow which they say is one of the worst and most difficult to diagnose... Xrays/Ultrasounds/CT's/MRI's all done multiple times and through multiple Clinics and non could really pin point the issue which was the most frustrating aspect as people cannot really visualize the pain and distress that my kind of elbow injury was exhibiting.
We'd ended up deciding on the best form of treatment was doing rehab exercises and constant cortisone injections into the joint.

At first the cortisone worked well and the pain relief lasted for like 3-4 weeks and i could play freely, but every subsequent injection the relief plus duration seemed to be less and less, which was when the Dr decided I needed to get surgery on it back in 2020.

Unfortunately the surgery was less than successful, and it took me out of action for nearly a year before I tried playing cricket and my other sport again. I managed to try my best to play through the issues and reduced the cortisone injections for my elbow and for my back to just before tournaments which helped me at least perform to a respectable level during those periods.

I tried my best to train my body to as fit it could be with a ton of cardio and various other sports based gym training which managed to get me to get into a pretty good shape, even though I was quite 'gym fit' I was still severely hampered by my elbow and back issues and it all went to poop last year at a tournament literally a couple of days before I was flying overseas for a holiday.

I not only managed to somehow cause a minor stress fracture to my back, but I completely ruptured my triceps tendon in the finals...
Needless to say the overseas trip was a horror show and I had to eat and go to the loo with my left hand ... plus a whole host of other issues which I won't mention.

Getting referred to a elbow specialist surgeon was the first thing I did when i got back (not the same surgeon as the previous surgery) and after a few more scans, I managed to get diagnosed with a torn tendon and also Osteoarthritis on my elbow joint. So I managed to get both surgeries done for my lower back and also for my elbow which they had to make 4 different incisions to fix and clean up the tendon plus joint stuff.

So here I am after months and finally getting the approval from the Dr + Surgeon to resume training again... and I've spent a couple of weeks doing light cardio and stretches already prior to this log and I gotta say oh boy... it is quite hard to train up again haha, kind of like going down from near the top of a mountain and trying to climb from the bottom again! Especially when there is still some lingering pains that doesn't ever seem they will fully go away with both my elbow and my back even though they are already much better than previously.
Will try my best to strengthen up and hopefully fingers crossed stay injury free from now on... Still wanna enjoy sports !

Today the body was suffering a fair bit of dom's from yesterday, especially in the knees and legs from the stair-master.
So took it easy with no gym till the arvo.

Had 2 pieces of wholemeal bread with some Cholesterol lowering butter for breakfast.

2 x 2 nespresso capsule shots no milk, one at breakfast and one 30min pre-gym training.

5 minutes of shadow training
45 minutes of elliptical machine at mild pace level 15
Fullbody pullups - 4 / 2
Barbell wrist extensions 10kg - 50/30/20/20/20
Barbell wrist curls 10kgs - 50-40-30 15kgs - 30-20-20
4kg Dumbbell Forearm pronations each arm - 15/15/15
4kg Dumbbell Forearm supinations each arm - 15/15/15
4kg Dumbbell standing full forearm pronation and supination with arms extended straight - 12/12/12

Didn't have too much time, just wanting to focus on my forearm and grip strength a bit these days as I can feel it when i'm doing pullups the left arm is giving away and the grip is significantly weaker than previously.

Drank 5.9g metamucil post workout

Had a nice meal for dinner with some fried eggs and 1 banger

Will try to bed earlier but Monster Hunter Wilds is very addictive

I find DOMs can easily go away if you boost your protein. @sifnezzz
Monster hunter? you watching on netflix?

 

[LevButlerov]

Great log !! Will follow ! Glad to see that you have the motivation to get back to training after your injury. Sometimes very demotivating to get back on track. But don't worry, you are my age and with your foundation, muscle memory will kick in very quick. No doubt. Just stay consistent Thank you for sharing your story !

@haldencapital happy to see you support EVO family brothers like @sifnezzz

 

[StevenDarwinMD]

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[Ulter]

It's funny how the doctor told you not to do surgery that he wouldn't have his son do it.

you never have that happen in the USA. doctors here are only after $$$

 

[chesty]

Yeah, I think surgery should be a last resort. Only in a dire situation.

 

[ROIDDERS]

I'm glad that you are doing better today.

I hear you, man. Nobody wants to not be able to do Sports.

 

[ceo]

Bros, just be careful with weight training because they will compress the discs in the back. do smart training going forward and stretch.

 

[Quadsweep]

Wow, thanks for laying out your story about the medical treatment.
Really a tough situation and I feel for you,

 

[BodyMonster34]

bro sound like you had rough time.

i once fell off tanker, came 1 inch away from hitting wrong thing and dying.