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Hi all,

Starting this log after your advice a few days ago, so most of what I am adding here was part of the original post.

TLDR: I m going up a weight class (from 89 to 105kg). I normally stand at 92-93kg without having to overthink it, on a maintenance diet of 3000 cal and 180-200g protein. I regularly see a doctor and supplement whatever needs to be supplemented according to my blood tests (on point). I am disciplined, train hard and stick to my diet and overall routine. I did two 60-day cycles (Anadrol and Anavar, separately) along with a permanent TRT of 200mg week. Since December 2023, I ve been up to 350mg/week Test C. From February, I will stack Deca and possibly Anadrol or Dianabol. Everything, from diet to bloods to TRT to stacks, is supervised by a sports medicine doctor. Yet he is specialised in bodybuilding so I wonder if there is anything I could tweak since my goal is strenght. Suggestions welcome, and thanks for reading.

I was always active and got serious into strength training about 3 years ago, trying different styles to see what s what (crossfit, powerlifting, then strongman). I m 39 yo at 5'11, 210 and about 16-18 bf. My first try at a comp was static monsters (strongman show consisting of top singles : log clean and press; axle deadlift) a few months ago. I did reasonably well and met my goals, so I m now preparing for next year.

I regularly see a sports medicine doctor who put me on TRT since May 2022 with a 100mg gel (natural test at 300 at that point, then 550). In May 2023, I started with 200mg test c / week (test went up to 850-900). During the summer, I took anadrol (60mg day for 60 days) alongside the regular trt. Starting in October, I took anavar (20mg day for 60 days). Bloods in December were on point apart from a mild change in LDL that went from excellent to good, but my doctor indicated this is not a big deal and likely due to recent anavar usage. I also get a diet plan which I follow reasonably well, my sleep schedule is on point and alcohol consumption is minimal (I d say 3-4 times month, about 2-4 glasses of beer or wine max, if at all). I do a shitload of lab tests every 90-120 days following my doctor's requests. My goal is to stay healthy and active in the long run so I m not after anything crazy, but I am willing to compromise here and there since I really enjoy training hard and focusing on amateur level comps.

I am currently going up a weight class (from 90 to 105kg; 198 to 231 pounds) over 12 months (since November). Not reaching peak body weight is not an issue; it will be my heaviest ever so I will check how my body reacts along the way. The first few months of 2024 will be very intense work wise so any changes will be incremental. I do not want to lose body fat at all, as I had way more injuries during heavy lifting when on lower BF levels.

I have no issues with my diet and I can eat the same things over and over. Advice welcome. Rice, mince meat/chicken and leafy greens are a staple. Same as eggs and potatoes. I cook the rice with coconut milk for added fat and taste. I regularly add oats (either with yoghurt or blended with whey) to keep the bowel happy, and take about 4g-6g of fish oil per day. During this happy bulking stage, I can finish my day with substantial pieces of cheesecake. It s a basque style cheesecake that I bake myself, so it has less sugar, no crust and no additives. I know my diet nets about 3500-4000 cal and 200g protein per day because this is the info I get from my doctor, but I never bothered calculating macros other than keeping track of my protein. When life gets in the way, I normally end up eating less calories (sometimes much less) but I always try to maintain the protein intake stable. Weight has been going slightly up (from 90kg by the end of October up to 94-95 kg right now) without noticeable change in terms of body composition.

Since I m moving up, the first 12 months of my training have focused on hypertrophy (currently on week 7). I hit the gym 4 times per week for 100-120 min sessions plus whatever mobility and warmup I do. Going to the gym means cycling for about 5 miles / 8km in the flat each way. This would amount to too much cardio during the heavy weeks, so I cycle in and take the public transport out.

I won't post the full training routine out of respect for my coach, who provides tailored stuff on a weekly basis. The split right now is day 1 lower body, day 2 press, rest, day 3 lower body (same routine as day 1), day 4 pull, two days rest. This results in about 32-36 sets per week for each main body part. Results have been great so I don't want to change this. Hypertrophy training will go on until February for a total of 12 weeks with the aim of hitting an average BW of 96kg.

From there, I will switch to strength training over the course again of 12 weeks. The strength season is hard, sometimes brutal, so if I can add stuff to keep me going without screwing my health, I am open to doing it. A sample day would total 3-4 hours in the gym (mind that rest periods get much longer, 5+ minutes) and I normally take one or two short breaks to eat something, like a carb shake or a 200-cal protein bar. I also take 1-2g of kosher salt before training and this definitely helps me keep going on the long days. Since intensity and stimulus will change sharply, I will stack PEDs on top of my (no longer "just") TRT. I m cruising so there is no PCT involved, although I will probably go down on Test C a bit at some point:

- From December until Februrary (12 weeks total): 350mg Test C per week taken as 250mg every 5 days, plus 0.5mg anastrozole on the day of injection (as prescribed by my doctor; keeping estradiol under control due to previous mild gyno symptoms without taking it down too sharply).

- From February (12-16 weeks, still to be decided): 350mg Test C + 350mc Deca (250mg every 5 days as usual) + Anadrol 60mg, plus whatever drugs he recommends to deal with sides (definitely some kidney stuff as before). This is my doctor's plan subject to my training results and bloods.

I looking forward to the joint support users report from Deca. Also, I had stomach issues with Anadrol before so I wonder if I should do Dianabol instead, or Turinabol as someone suggested in my previous thread. Lastly, should I bite the bullet and do Tren maybe, or is it overkill?

I am currently based in the US and using napsgear domestic delivery.

Happy to hear what you think about all this. Thanks for reading!
 
So 5 weeks of anadrol and deca at end of cycle. I would do Tren instead of those. Go 6 weeks. I would never take anadrol if Tren was an option.
I wouldn’t so much recommend Tren, longevity and harm reduction in mind. With strong man and pushing weight up as such will blow BP up to mild hypertension. Tren can further this while adding more issues. Not to mention other lifestyle issues that you don’t need to encounter at such age, best left competitive bodybuilding in my opinion
 
Hi all,

Starting this log after your advice a few days ago, so most of what I am adding here was part of the original post.

TLDR: I m going up a weight class (from 89 to 105kg). I normally stand at 92-93kg without having to overthink it, on a maintenance diet of 3000 cal and 180-200g protein. I regularly see a doctor and supplement whatever needs to be supplemented according to my blood tests (on point). I am disciplined, train hard and stick to my diet and overall routine. I did two 60-day cycles (Anadrol and Anavar, separately) along with a permanent TRT of 200mg week. Since December 2023, I ve been up to 350mg/week Test C. From February, I will stack Deca and possibly Anadrol or Dianabol. Everything, from diet to bloods to TRT to stacks, is supervised by a sports medicine doctor. Yet he is specialised in bodybuilding so I wonder if there is anything I could tweak since my goal is strenght. Suggestions welcome, and thanks for reading.

I was always active and got serious into strength training about 3 years ago, trying different styles to see what s what (crossfit, powerlifting, then strongman). I m 39 yo at 5'11, 210 and about 16-18 bf. My first try at a comp was static monsters (strongman show consisting of top singles : log clean and press; axle deadlift) a few months ago. I did reasonably well and met my goals, so I m now preparing for next year.

I regularly see a sports medicine doctor who put me on TRT since May 2022 with a 100mg gel (natural test at 300 at that point, then 550). In May 2023, I started with 200mg test c / week (test went up to 850-900). During the summer, I took anadrol (60mg day for 60 days) alongside the regular trt. Starting in October, I took anavar (20mg day for 60 days). Bloods in December were on point apart from a mild change in LDL that went from excellent to good, but my doctor indicated this is not a big deal and likely due to recent anavar usage. I also get a diet plan which I follow reasonably well, my sleep schedule is on point and alcohol consumption is minimal (I d say 3-4 times month, about 2-4 glasses of beer or wine max, if at all). I do a shitload of lab tests every 90-120 days following my doctor's requests. My goal is to stay healthy and active in the long run so I m not after anything crazy, but I am willing to compromise here and there since I really enjoy training hard and focusing on amateur level comps.

I am currently going up a weight class (from 90 to 105kg; 198 to 231 pounds) over 12 months (since November). Not reaching peak body weight is not an issue; it will be my heaviest ever so I will check how my body reacts along the way. The first few months of 2024 will be very intense work wise so any changes will be incremental. I do not want to lose body fat at all, as I had way more injuries during heavy lifting when on lower BF levels.

I have no issues with my diet and I can eat the same things over and over. Advice welcome. Rice, mince meat/chicken and leafy greens are a staple. Same as eggs and potatoes. I cook the rice with coconut milk for added fat and taste. I regularly add oats (either with yoghurt or blended with whey) to keep the bowel happy, and take about 4g-6g of fish oil per day. During this happy bulking stage, I can finish my day with substantial pieces of cheesecake. It s a basque style cheesecake that I bake myself, so it has less sugar, no crust and no additives. I know my diet nets about 3500-4000 cal and 200g protein per day because this is the info I get from my doctor, but I never bothered calculating macros other than keeping track of my protein. When life gets in the way, I normally end up eating less calories (sometimes much less) but I always try to maintain the protein intake stable. Weight has been going slightly up (from 90kg by the end of October up to 94-95 kg right now) without noticeable change in terms of body composition.

Since I m moving up, the first 12 months of my training have focused on hypertrophy (currently on week 7). I hit the gym 4 times per week for 100-120 min sessions plus whatever mobility and warmup I do. Going to the gym means cycling for about 5 miles / 8km in the flat each way. This would amount to too much cardio during the heavy weeks, so I cycle in and take the public transport out.

I won't post the full training routine out of respect for my coach, who provides tailored stuff on a weekly basis. The split right now is day 1 lower body, day 2 press, rest, day 3 lower body (same routine as day 1), day 4 pull, two days rest. This results in about 32-36 sets per week for each main body part. Results have been great so I don't want to change this. Hypertrophy training will go on until February for a total of 12 weeks with the aim of hitting an average BW of 96kg.

From there, I will switch to strength training over the course again of 12 weeks. The strength season is hard, sometimes brutal, so if I can add stuff to keep me going without screwing my health, I am open to doing it. A sample day would total 3-4 hours in the gym (mind that rest periods get much longer, 5+ minutes) and I normally take one or two short breaks to eat something, like a carb shake or a 200-cal protein bar. I also take 1-2g of kosher salt before training and this definitely helps me keep going on the long days. Since intensity and stimulus will change sharply, I will stack PEDs on top of my (no longer "just") TRT. I m cruising so there is no PCT involved, although I will probably go down on Test C a bit at some point:

- From December until Februrary (12 weeks total): 350mg Test C per week taken as 250mg every 5 days, plus 0.5mg anastrozole on the day of injection (as prescribed by my doctor; keeping estradiol under control due to previous mild gyno symptoms without taking it down too sharply).

- From February (12-16 weeks, still to be decided): 350mg Test C + 350mc Deca (250mg every 5 days as usual) + Anadrol 60mg, plus whatever drugs he recommends to deal with sides (definitely some kidney stuff as before). This is my doctor's plan subject to my training results and bloods.

I looking forward to the joint support users report from Deca. Also, I had stomach issues with Anadrol before so I wonder if I should do Dianabol instead, or Turinabol as someone suggested in my previous thread. Lastly, should I bite the bullet and do Tren maybe, or is it overkill?

I am currently based in the US and using napsgear domestic delivery.

Happy to hear what you think about all this. Thanks for reading!
Some recommendations from point of view,
Drop the anastrazole, I understand that this prescribed to people on TRT And higher, buts it’s not needed, you are much better off running masteron 1:1 ration with test. This not only will enchance blood flow to the working muscles, but mitigation of e2 where it can. It will not kill estrogen, but it will keep this stable. DHT being a powerful substrate of Test, will also increase strength, which I assume is what you want, plus a nice boost in free test will help keep that aggression high and nitrogen retention at a max. Anadrol is great for strength but can kill appetite. Sure it can put superficial weight on, but it will make eating a chore, not to mention acid reflux and lethargy. If you are okay with 60mg as you have done in the past and haven’t presented these symptoms then its good to go, TUDCA is recommended which will also help detoxification of the liver and help breakdown your food for better absorption.

Deca is great for joints, however you need to keep this within the 200-300mg range, injected once per week. It’s easy to overdo this and can effect other compounds and their effectiveness to some degree. Also if you have never used a progesterone, you want to start low and see how your body reacts as nandrolone effects everyone differently. You can mitigate Alot of these side effects through masteron and steady dose of test if your progesterone prone to side effects.
 
I wouldn’t so much recommend Tren, longevity and harm reduction in mind. With strong man and pushing weight up as such will blow BP up to mild hypertension. Tren can further this while adding more issues. Not to mention other lifestyle issues that you don’t need to encounter at such age, best left competitive bodybuilding in my opinion
You think taking anadrol is safer? I don't. You don't need to run more than 150mg/week of tren to be effective. LIke I said if I had a choice between tren or anadrol tren would win out everytime. As far as blood pressure goes, you can get a script from your doc if there were any issues. He could even just go 100mg/week to test the waters. I plan on going 150mg/week when I use it again. Dorian Yates used 152mg per week. I think as long as he keeps his total weekly dosage of injectables to 500mg he will be fine as long as he watches his sodium intake and takes proper herbal support. I think its the guys who decide to take 1000mg and over where they start to run into problems. I think 500mg is the sweet spot. I have great genetics and dont need much to grow like a weed.
 
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You think taking anadrol is safer? I don't. You don't need to run more than 150mg/week of tren to be effective. LIke I said if I had a choice between tren or anadrol tren would win out everytime. As far as blood pressure goes, you can get a script from your doc if there were any issues. He could even just go 100mg/week to test the waters. I plan on going 150mg/week when I use it again. Dorian Yates used 152mg per week. I think as long as he keeps his total weekly dosage of injectables to 500mg he will be fine as long as he watches his sodium intake and takes proper herbal support. I think its the guys who decide to take 1000mg and over where they start to run into problems. I think 600mg is the sweet spot. I have great genetics and dont need much to grow like a weed.
Taking Anadrol or any steroid is not safer. But taking anadrol can cause less harm then what tren could, there is strong evidence of what trenbolone can do to bio markers, it can cross the blood brain barrier, cause neurological harm and inflame your kidneys, you have only a set of kidneys that aren’t regenerative, the liver can heal. I could go on for hours what tren can do to you systematically and the different effects of cascades that can affect the body at cellular level, not to mention the amount of reactive oxygen species in the cell that can degrade and age you quicker then any steroid. Longevity is key.

Throwing more drugs at the kitchen sink isn’t the best way to approach the situation. Sure Telmisartan can help hypertension and reduce inflammatory markers via its ARB mechanisms but again I don’t think it’s viable when it can be controlled by taking a different substance.. not more.

Dorian Yates is a anamoly, 99% of us do not have his set of genetics, so comparing this wouldn’t be the best way to justify use of tren.

Sodium intake is important for function of the nervous system, why reduce for the sake of running a toxic substance? So many benefits of sodium especially on strongmen circles. The body will simply not recover or peform correctly without. Just my 2c on it all.
 
Taking Anadrol or any steroid is not safer. But taking anadrol can cause less harm then what tren could, there is strong evidence of what trenbolone can do to bio markers, it can cross the blood brain barrier, cause neurological harm and inflame your kidneys, you have only a set of kidneys that aren’t regenerative, the liver can heal. I could go on for hours what tren can do to you systematically and the different effects of cascades that can affect the body at cellular level, not to mention the amount of reactive oxygen species in the cell that can degrade and age you quicker then any steroid. Longevity is key.

Throwing more drugs at the kitchen sink isn’t the best way to approach the situation. Sure Telmisartan can help hypertension and reduce inflammatory markers via its ARB mechanisms but again I don’t think it’s viable when it can be controlled by taking a different substance.. not more.

Dorian Yates is a anamoly, 99% of us do not have his set of genetics, so comparing this wouldn’t be the best way to justify use of tren.

Sodium intake is important for function of the nervous system, why reduce for the sake of running a toxic substance? So many benefits of sodium especially on strongmen circles. The body will simply not recover or peform correctly without. Just my 2c on it all.
My whole point was I gave a specific number in mg to use versus his alternative so lets agree to disagree. I believe he will get better results from 150mg tren stacked with his 350mg Test per week rather than 350mg deca/week and 60mg anadrol per day stacked with his 350mg test. I believe the sides from 150mg tren will be minimal. I never said to drop sodium. I said to watch out for it. Some people eat like crap. Everything is a compromise. If your taking steroids your already throwing longevity out the window. Its what you want in return with the best results. If he really cared about longevity he would give up steroids altogether. As far as myself goes. I dont care if I live 10 years less as long as I have a heck of a fun ride. Longevity to me means nothing if its just miserable. Who wants to be average? I sure dont. Its quality of life not quantity. Dorian even admitted his genetics was not that great. Its his training mindset that pushed him to the next level. If you take dosages in reasonable amounts he will be perfectly fine as long as he doesnt use tren longer than 8 weeks. Personally I would go only 6. He is talking about going 12 weeks on anadrol at the end of his monster length cycle.
 
My whole point was I gave a specific number in mg to use versus his alternative so lets agree to disagree. I believe he will get better results from 150mg tren stacked with his 350mg Test per week rather than 350mg deca/week and 60mg anadrol per day stacked with his 350mg test. I believe the sides from 150mg tren will be minimal. I never said to drop sodium. I said to watch out for it. Some people eat like crap. Everything is a compromise. If your taking steroids your already throwing longevity out the window. Its what you want in return with the best results. If he really cared about longevity he would give up steroids altogether. As far as myself goes. I dont care if I live 10 years less as long as I have a heck of a fun ride. Longevity to me means nothing if its just miserable. Who wants to be average? I sure dont. Its quality of life not quantity. Dorian even admitted his genetics was not that great. Its his training mindset that pushed him to the next level. If you take dosages in reasonable amounts he will be perfectly fine as long as he doesnt use tren longer than 8 weeks. Personally I would go only 6. He is talking about going 12 weeks on anadrol at the end of his monster length cycle.
Can agree to disagree, tren has its place, but I don’t believe in this circumstance it’s a good idea. You need to think of safety, 150mg of tren is still more harmful then what you think.. anyway it’s food for thought when it comes to compound selection. Sometimes we have to look under the hood extensively before making such conclusions, I think OP has a great log and looks to be under control.
 
You both have good points but when we're providing advice for someone who is trusting us I agree we should be extra cautious to have their health and wellbeing in mind. When we decide to take a drug or engage in riskier behaviors to do with enhancing physique it's on us and it's our body so if we mess it up we had it coming... but when it's someone else if something were to happen it would play on your mind for sure. Just be careful. Both opinions are respected and welcome on here of course, but people always say they don't care about their health that much until they have a health scare and it wakes them up
 
You both have good points but when we're providing advice for someone who is trusting us I agree we should be extra cautious to have their health and wellbeing in mind. When we decide to take a drug or engage in riskier behaviors to do with enhancing physique it's on us and it's our body so if we mess it up we had it coming... but when it's someone else if something were to happen it would play on your mind for sure. Just be careful. Both opinions are respected and welcome on here of course, but people always say they don't care about their health that much until they have a health scare and it wakes them up
Agreed, some duty of care to be taken
 
Hi all,

Starting this log after your advice a few days ago, so most of what I am adding here was part of the original post.

TLDR: I m going up a weight class (from 89 to 105kg). I normally stand at 92-93kg without having to overthink it, on a maintenance diet of 3000 cal and 180-200g protein. I regularly see a doctor and supplement whatever needs to be supplemented according to my blood tests (on point). I am disciplined, train hard and stick to my diet and overall routine. I did two 60-day cycles (Anadrol and Anavar, separately) along with a permanent TRT of 200mg week. Since December 2023, I ve been up to 350mg/week Test C. From February, I will stack Deca and possibly Anadrol or Dianabol. Everything, from diet to bloods to TRT to stacks, is supervised by a sports medicine doctor. Yet he is specialised in bodybuilding so I wonder if there is anything I could tweak since my goal is strenght. Suggestions welcome, and thanks for reading.

I was always active and got serious into strength training about 3 years ago, trying different styles to see what s what (crossfit, powerlifting, then strongman). I m 39 yo at 5'11, 210 and about 16-18 bf. My first try at a comp was static monsters (strongman show consisting of top singles : log clean and press; axle deadlift) a few months ago. I did reasonably well and met my goals, so I m now preparing for next year.

I regularly see a sports medicine doctor who put me on TRT since May 2022 with a 100mg gel (natural test at 300 at that point, then 550). In May 2023, I started with 200mg test c / week (test went up to 850-900). During the summer, I took anadrol (60mg day for 60 days) alongside the regular trt. Starting in October, I took anavar (20mg day for 60 days). Bloods in December were on point apart from a mild change in LDL that went from excellent to good, but my doctor indicated this is not a big deal and likely due to recent anavar usage. I also get a diet plan which I follow reasonably well, my sleep schedule is on point and alcohol consumption is minimal (I d say 3-4 times month, about 2-4 glasses of beer or wine max, if at all). I do a shitload of lab tests every 90-120 days following my doctor's requests. My goal is to stay healthy and active in the long run so I m not after anything crazy, but I am willing to compromise here and there since I really enjoy training hard and focusing on amateur level comps.

I am currently going up a weight class (from 90 to 105kg; 198 to 231 pounds) over 12 months (since November). Not reaching peak body weight is not an issue; it will be my heaviest ever so I will check how my body reacts along the way. The first few months of 2024 will be very intense work wise so any changes will be incremental. I do not want to lose body fat at all, as I had way more injuries during heavy lifting when on lower BF levels.

I have no issues with my diet and I can eat the same things over and over. Advice welcome. Rice, mince meat/chicken and leafy greens are a staple. Same as eggs and potatoes. I cook the rice with coconut milk for added fat and taste. I regularly add oats (either with yoghurt or blended with whey) to keep the bowel happy, and take about 4g-6g of fish oil per day. During this happy bulking stage, I can finish my day with substantial pieces of cheesecake. It s a basque style cheesecake that I bake myself, so it has less sugar, no crust and no additives. I know my diet nets about 3500-4000 cal and 200g protein per day because this is the info I get from my doctor, but I never bothered calculating macros other than keeping track of my protein. When life gets in the way, I normally end up eating less calories (sometimes much less) but I always try to maintain the protein intake stable. Weight has been going slightly up (from 90kg by the end of October up to 94-95 kg right now) without noticeable change in terms of body composition.

Since I m moving up, the first 12 months of my training have focused on hypertrophy (currently on week 7). I hit the gym 4 times per week for 100-120 min sessions plus whatever mobility and warmup I do. Going to the gym means cycling for about 5 miles / 8km in the flat each way. This would amount to too much cardio during the heavy weeks, so I cycle in and take the public transport out.

I won't post the full training routine out of respect for my coach, who provides tailored stuff on a weekly basis. The split right now is day 1 lower body, day 2 press, rest, day 3 lower body (same routine as day 1), day 4 pull, two days rest. This results in about 32-36 sets per week for each main body part. Results have been great so I don't want to change this. Hypertrophy training will go on until February for a total of 12 weeks with the aim of hitting an average BW of 96kg.

From there, I will switch to strength training over the course again of 12 weeks. The strength season is hard, sometimes brutal, so if I can add stuff to keep me going without screwing my health, I am open to doing it. A sample day would total 3-4 hours in the gym (mind that rest periods get much longer, 5+ minutes) and I normally take one or two short breaks to eat something, like a carb shake or a 200-cal protein bar. I also take 1-2g of kosher salt before training and this definitely helps me keep going on the long days. Since intensity and stimulus will change sharply, I will stack PEDs on top of my (no longer "just") TRT. I m cruising so there is no PCT involved, although I will probably go down on Test C a bit at some point:

- From December until Februrary (12 weeks total): 350mg Test C per week taken as 250mg every 5 days, plus 0.5mg anastrozole on the day of injection (as prescribed by my doctor; keeping estradiol under control due to previous mild gyno symptoms without taking it down too sharply).

- From February (12-16 weeks, still to be decided): 350mg Test C + 350mc Deca (250mg every 5 days as usual) + Anadrol 60mg, plus whatever drugs he recommends to deal with sides (definitely some kidney stuff as before). This is my doctor's plan subject to my training results and bloods.

I looking forward to the joint support users report from Deca. Also, I had stomach issues with Anadrol before so I wonder if I should do Dianabol instead, or Turinabol as someone suggested in my previous thread. Lastly, should I bite the bullet and do Tren maybe, or is it overkill?

I am currently based in the US and using napsgear domestic delivery.

Happy to hear what you think about all this. Thanks for reading!
@major.ast this is a great start to your log I'm happy to see you really sharing.

on the training part, I dont get why you can share exercises? I mean it cant be secret ;) lol and it would help us understand where you are.

To mod your diet, we need you to share what you're eating meals foods and when you eat them times and how much.
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

what supplements you taking now?

why not swap the anadrol for tbol? better choice and deca is easier on your than trenbolone for sure, you worry about deca dick?
 
I've always had good results using Deca for joints
but then when I stop using it the joint pain comes back so keep that in mind
 
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