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Approved Log My test anavar cycle log

Toko

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2/21/23

Thanks to everyone for the input on previous info-gathering thread. Posting a log here, will keep it up weekly. Have a couple questions, towards the end.

QUICK STATS:
38/male
Been lifting for 28 years
5'11, 230 lbs, 18% bf
Chest 51", arms 18", legs 29", waist 38"
Bloods good. Used PrivateMDLabs. No health problems aside from some joint issues.

CYCLE HX:
done 2 cycles.
One was test e / dbol over 10 years ago.
1 year ago I did a conservative anavar only cycle.

GOAL:
Recomp, heavy on the cut, get the bf down to 10% if possible. Sick of being fat. Yes diet is the key, but I need some help. Already cut down from 250 prepping for this.

CYCLE:
Weeks 1-8: Test E 500 mg/wk (2 x 250 mg q 3.5 days)
Weeks 1-8: Anavar 50 mg/day (2 x 25 mg)
Week 1: Clen 20 mcg/day
Week 2: Clen 40 mcg/day
Week 5: Clen 40 mcg/day
Week 6: Clen 60 mcg/day

PCT:
Perfect PCT protocol --> https://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/
Week 7: HCGenerate 5 caps/day // Cardarine (GW-501516) 20 mg/day
Week 8: HCGenerate 5 caps/day // Cardarine (GW-501516) 20 mg/day
Week 9: Cardarine (GW-501516) 20 mg/day // Clomid 50 mg/day // Nolva 40 mg/day // Aromasin 12.5 mg EOD // Ostarine (MK-2866) 25 mg/day //
Week 10: Cardarine (GW-501516) 20 mg/day // Clomid 50 mg/day // Nolva 20 mg/day // Aromasin 12.5 mg EOD // Ostarine (MK-2866) 25 mg/day //
Week 11: Cardarine (GW-501516) 20 mg/day // Clomid 25 mg/day // Nolva 20 mg/day // Aromasin 7.5 mg EOD // Ostarine (MK-2866) 25 mg/day //
Week 12: Cardarine (GW-501516) 20 mg/day // Clomid 25 mg/day // Nolva 20 mg/day // Aromasin 7.5 mg EOD // Ostarine (MK-2866) 25 mg/day //
Week 13: Clomid 12.5 mg/day // Nolva 10 mg/day

QUESTIONS:
1. When is PCT week 1 relative to cycle week 8? Overlaps? The Perfect PCT Protocol has the 2 week pre-PCT kickstart with HCGenerate and Cardarine only on PCT weeks 1-2. That means Clomid, Nolva, Aromasin don't start until PCT week 3. But I don't think you're supposed to wait 2 weeks after last pin or last Anavar dose to start those, right? So does perfect PCT weeks 1-2 overlap with last 2 weeks of cycle? Meaning in this case, weeks 7-8 of cycle = weeks 1-2 of PCT? That's how I figured it above.

2. About Aromasin -- Perfect PCT protocol has Aromasin on PCT weeks 3-6 (9-12 above). But, a lot of guys say to use aromasin throughout the cycle or as needed, including dylangemelli on my info-gathering post. Which is it? Both?

NOTES:
1. All gear sourced from domestic-supply, including the GW and MK (both Odin). The rest was all Sixpex. Very good experience with them. Everything arrived promptly, as ordered. No issues.

2. Yes I went with 8 weeks, to stay on the safe side, avoid HPTA damage, avoid permanent side effects. Also read a bit about plateaus at 8 weeks, and it resounded with my own experience on past cycles. Current plan is to do two 8-week cycles per year. May change/extend to 10 weeks based on how I feel, how it goes and bloods.

3. The clen. I know a lot of guys are against it. Others say it's fine. Some ramp it up to 120mcg. Others say slow and steady. Some say do 2 weeks on, 2 off. Decided to try it, 2 weeks on, 2 off as above, and stay low dose. Increase dose weekly, not every few days. Will play it by ear. If the side effects are too much, I'll stop.

4. HCGenerate and N2Guard are both out of stock, can't get either one, tried hard. I'm sure everybody knows. So I went through the ingredients and spent a few hours on Amazon finding substitutes to cover the essentials. Here is what I went with if anyone is interested, or to save time for someone going through the same process:
- ON OPTI-MEN daily multi-vitamin
- Nutriissa "Cycle Support"
- Prime Labs Power Tribulus capsules
- aSquared nuturition Fadogia Agrestis with tongkat ali
- VitaMonk FenuTrax Fenugreek Extract capsules
- Carlyle Stinging Nettle Leaf Extract capsules
- Horbaach Triple Born Complex 6mg tabs

DIET:
- Low carb. Mostly based on macros, not calories. 250 g of protein / day, generally over 5-6 meals, couple of those are shakes, mostly lean meat, pork, fish, chicken, some beef. Plenty of vegetables. Sweets only immediately after workouts. Otherwise, clean carbs. Banana in the am if morning workout. Sweet potato, brown rice, whole wheat bread, no garbage.

CARDIO:
- Lift weights faster, play sports. Every workout starts with abs, low-weight hi-rep leg press machine or just 10-12 mins stepmill, calves (weak point). Workout itself is intense, high volume, all super-sets, fast-paced, little to no rest. Mostly just resting before big compound sets (bench, deads, squats).

TRAINING SPLIT:
- I've done so many different splits over the years. Always changing it up, usually once or twice a year. Right now, for weight loss, I'm doing a four day split which has a core body area each day, rounded out with total body sets. It's all super sets, high volume, fast and fun. Pretty advanced and time-consuming. I can post it if anyone is interested.
 
have you used clen before?

clen can ruin a steroid cycle cause you feel like crap on it and it messes with your heart health bigtime

i would recommend you go about losing 8% body fat in a different direction
 
2/21/23

Thanks to everyone for the input on previous info-gathering thread. Posting a log here, will keep it up weekly. Have a couple questions, towards the end.

QUICK STATS:
38/male
Been lifting for 28 years
5'11, 230 lbs, 18% bf
Chest 51", arms 18", legs 29", waist 38"
Bloods good. Used PrivateMDLabs. No health problems aside from some joint issues.

CYCLE HX:
done 2 cycles.
One was test e / dbol over 10 years ago.
1 year ago I did a conservative anavar only cycle.

GOAL:
Recomp, heavy on the cut, get the bf down to 10% if possible. Sick of being fat. Yes diet is the key, but I need some help. Already cut down from 250 prepping for this.

CYCLE:
Weeks 1-8: Test E 500 mg/wk (2 x 250 mg q 3.5 days)
Weeks 1-8: Anavar 50 mg/day (2 x 25 mg)
Week 1: Clen 20 mcg/day
Week 2: Clen 40 mcg/day
Week 5: Clen 40 mcg/day
Week 6: Clen 60 mcg/day

PCT:
Perfect PCT protocol --> https://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/
Week 7: HCGenerate 5 caps/day // Cardarine (GW-501516) 20 mg/day
Week 8: HCGenerate 5 caps/day // Cardarine (GW-501516) 20 mg/day
Week 9: Cardarine (GW-501516) 20 mg/day // Clomid 50 mg/day // Nolva 40 mg/day // Aromasin 12.5 mg EOD // Ostarine (MK-2866) 25 mg/day //
Week 10: Cardarine (GW-501516) 20 mg/day // Clomid 50 mg/day // Nolva 20 mg/day // Aromasin 12.5 mg EOD // Ostarine (MK-2866) 25 mg/day //
Week 11: Cardarine (GW-501516) 20 mg/day // Clomid 25 mg/day // Nolva 20 mg/day // Aromasin 7.5 mg EOD // Ostarine (MK-2866) 25 mg/day //
Week 12: Cardarine (GW-501516) 20 mg/day // Clomid 25 mg/day // Nolva 20 mg/day // Aromasin 7.5 mg EOD // Ostarine (MK-2866) 25 mg/day //
Week 13: Clomid 12.5 mg/day // Nolva 10 mg/day

QUESTIONS:
1. When is PCT week 1 relative to cycle week 8? Overlaps? The Perfect PCT Protocol has the 2 week pre-PCT kickstart with HCGenerate and Cardarine only on PCT weeks 1-2. That means Clomid, Nolva, Aromasin don't start until PCT week 3. But I don't think you're supposed to wait 2 weeks after last pin or last Anavar dose to start those, right? So does perfect PCT weeks 1-2 overlap with last 2 weeks of cycle? Meaning in this case, weeks 7-8 of cycle = weeks 1-2 of PCT? That's how I figured it above.

2. About Aromasin -- Perfect PCT protocol has Aromasin on PCT weeks 3-6 (9-12 above). But, a lot of guys say to use aromasin throughout the cycle or as needed, including dylangemelli on my info-gathering post. Which is it? Both?

NOTES:
1. All gear sourced from domestic-supply, including the GW and MK (both Odin). The rest was all Sixpex. Very good experience with them. Everything arrived promptly, as ordered. No issues.

2. Yes I went with 8 weeks, to stay on the safe side, avoid HPTA damage, avoid permanent side effects. Also read a bit about plateaus at 8 weeks, and it resounded with my own experience on past cycles. Current plan is to do two 8-week cycles per year. May change/extend to 10 weeks based on how I feel, how it goes and bloods.

3. The clen. I know a lot of guys are against it. Others say it's fine. Some ramp it up to 120mcg. Others say slow and steady. Some say do 2 weeks on, 2 off. Decided to try it, 2 weeks on, 2 off as above, and stay low dose. Increase dose weekly, not every few days. Will play it by ear. If the side effects are too much, I'll stop.

4. HCGenerate and N2Guard are both out of stock, can't get either one, tried hard. I'm sure everybody knows. So I went through the ingredients and spent a few hours on Amazon finding substitutes to cover the essentials. Here is what I went with if anyone is interested, or to save time for someone going through the same process:
- ON OPTI-MEN daily multi-vitamin
- Nutriissa "Cycle Support"
- Prime Labs Power Tribulus capsules
- aSquared nuturition Fadogia Agrestis with tongkat ali
- VitaMonk FenuTrax Fenugreek Extract capsules
- Carlyle Stinging Nettle Leaf Extract capsules
- Horbaach Triple Born Complex 6mg tabs

DIET:
- Low carb. Mostly based on macros, not calories. 250 g of protein / day, generally over 5-6 meals, couple of those are shakes, mostly lean meat, pork, fish, chicken, some beef. Plenty of vegetables. Sweets only immediately after workouts. Otherwise, clean carbs. Banana in the am if morning workout. Sweet potato, brown rice, whole wheat bread, no garbage.

CARDIO:
- Lift weights faster, play sports. Every workout starts with abs, low-weight hi-rep leg press machine or just 10-12 mins stepmill, calves (weak point). Workout itself is intense, high volume, all super-sets, fast-paced, little to no rest. Mostly just resting before big compound sets (bench, deads, squats).

TRAINING SPLIT:
- I've done so many different splits over the years. Always changing it up, usually once or twice a year. Right now, for weight loss, I'm doing a four day split which has a core body area each day, rounded out with total body sets. It's all super sets, high volume, fast and fun. Pretty advanced and time-consuming. I can post it if anyone is interested.

good to see you post this log and nice questions here we go

1) The pct starts 2 weeks after your last injection so start there

2) aromasin I would only use week 1-2 in pct thats all 5mgs e3d

3) I had heart issues with clenbuterol so stick to 20-60mcg maximum with it

4) n2guard is in stock, you have not checked, its back
https://www.needtobuildmuscle.com/store/N2-GUARD-p75.html

and instead of hcgenerate/n2generate use ostazol m1mk, 2-3 caps
https://www.needtobuildmuscle.com/store/Ostazol_M1-MK

read about it
https://www.bannednutrition.com/product/m1-mk/

lets see your face blurred picture too

and we need to see your diet as you go food and meals
and your training as you go reps sets its crucial to share
 
Overall log is perfect to start
can we see a face blurred pic?
 
Thanks for the input and encouragement

Week 1 update

Gear:
test e (SixPex) 500 mg weekly, dosed 250 mg q 3.5 days
anavar (SixPex) 50 mg daily, dosed 25 mg BID
cardarine (Odin, from d-s) 20 mg daily, dosed 10 mg BID
clen (SixPex) 40 mcg daily, dosed 20 mcg am, 20 mcg lunch

1. Sorry I haven't been able to update daily. I'm a physician with four kids, 3 under 3 yo, very busy, doing my best here.

2. Sorry I forgot the photos. Week 1 start photos uploaded to public album. Let me know if they are not easy to see. When I try to post them on this reply, the photo doesn't appear, just some DOS-text-looking Matrix code

3. I made one change to the cycle: added cardarine now. Taking 20 mg daily (10 mg BID). Read what all the vets were saying about SARMS, planned on following the "Perfect PCT Protocol," so I got the cardarine and ostarine for PCT per that protocol. But lots of guys recommend taking cardarine on cycle, and ostarine after cycle. Thought I would try that. Actually, since it's just an 8 week cycle, the cardarine will run through both cycle and 4 weeks of PCT as well (12 weeks total). Saving the ostarine for PCT only. So, about the cardarine, this stuff is incredible and I highly recommend it. If you are reading this and have not tried SARMS, take it from someone who has been lifting almost 30 years and has no vested interest in selling or promoting any products -- I have never experienced anything quite like this. People say increased endurance. Let me explain what I am feeling. During workouts, I am now regularly taking sets to failure (that's normal), but without any feeling of fatigue at all (not normal). So after x reps, my muscle cannot do any more reps, the strength is used up, but I don't actually feel tired or fatigued, no burning, etc. And I can move on to the next set immediately. Supersets, triple sets, no delay. Able to do more volume in less time. I know I'm tearing the muscle up more than usual, but I just don't feel torn up. I feel fresh, feel like I could lift for 5 hours. I am pushing sets much farther than usual, farther than I would expect even on cycle. It is more than can be explained in terms of strength gains, especially after only 1 week. Been on test before, never felt this. It's like being Wolverine. I hope I don't get cancer, looks like the evidence is very reassuring on that score. Good thing, because cardarine is my new best friend.

4. Any tips on the above, taking cardarine 10 mg twice daily x 12 weeks, for duration of 8 week cycle plus 4 weeks PCT. Kosher?

5. The clen. First time trying it. Stayed on 20 mg daily (2 x 10 mg) for the first week. Day 1 was a trip, crazy feeling. Feels like you've been running sprints, when you're just sitting doing nothing. No hand-shaking or psych issues, just the racing heart, and some bad GERD which I think was from hyped sympathetic nervous system from the clen. Hot, sweaty all day. That stuff has subsided, taking it well, guess I'm lucky. Will increase to 20 mg twice daily tomorrow. I do see how it is unpleasant and could potentially "ruin" a cycle. I'm not giving up yet, really want to drop fat, don't mind the side effects so far at this low dose.

6. Strength gains: moderate at this point. Some exercises seeing 20% increase is reps at certain weights. Probably largely due to the cardarine as well. Low weight leg press, doing 50% more reps.

7. Weight loss: None. Of course recomp is not weight-based, but midsection tape measurements unchanged as well. Little bit disappointed, but it's early. Diet has been on point, carbs very low, almost keto, just 40-50g per day. Thought I would have dropped some quick water weight. Instead, muscles popping but still fat. Anyways it's only week 1.

8. Training: switched back to the good-old Arnold 3 day split for more volume. So for those that don't know, that goes like this:
Day 1: Chest and Back, with deadlifts
Day 2: Shoulders and arms
Day 3: Legs
Day 4: either rest, then go back to day one, or you can do like arnold did, and repeat days 1-3 twice in a row, so you only rest on day 7. I'm probably going to want more rest than one day per week. Going by feel atm.

Always alternating opposing muscle groups, usually supersets, high volume and fast-paced
 

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