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I would go the TRT route since your leydig cells are not functioning properly. Start low though. 75mg is a good starting dose and give it time to level out. Then get bloods and see where everything is at. You have to be patient because it can take a while to get the proper dose sorted out. You want your test to be in the upper normal range but not high enough that it is driving estrogen above normal. In that case, you will want to lower your test dose.
I notice if I do over 100mg -150mg my libido is rubbish I did an experiment and pinned test p sub cue EOD , 150mg total my libido was insane ! Far better then when I pinned test c IM it’s just the eod pinning but sub cue it’s not really a issue
 
I notice if I do over 100mg -150mg my libido is rubbish I did an experiment and pinned test p sub cue EOD , 150mg total my libido was insane ! Far better then when I pinned test c IM it’s just the eod pinning but sub cue it’s not really a issue
Its possible you have an E2 spike at over 150mgs which is what causes the drop.
Hard to guess as no info on your diet and training which can also cause libido drops (like overtraining) @Truckyboy1971
can you update us more please?
 
Its possible you have an E2 spike at over 150mgs which is what causes the drop.
Hard to guess as no info on your diet and training which can also cause libido drops (like overtraining) @Truckyboy1971
can you update us more please?
Well I’m getting bloods next week my bp is fine tho but I noticed like last time test e same has c it kills my libido , using prop its night and day just sub cue it eod
 
Well I’m getting bloods next week my bp is fine tho but I noticed like last time test e same has c it kills my libido , using prop its night and day just sub cue it eod
@Truckyboy1971 the issue is that you cant do bloods every few weeks, you'll need to find a middle level, have you spoked to @Mobster or any coach yet?
 
@Truckyboy1971 the issue is that you cant do bloods every few weeks, you'll need to find a middle level, have you spoked to @Mobster or any coach yet?
Yes I’m thinking same it’s not the ester it’s the dose prob takes a while level out I know over in the USA they all seem to be on 200mg a week don’t think any trt clinic here does that high a dose most seem to be on 80 to 125 a week
 
Well I’m getting bloods next week my bp is fine tho but I noticed like last time test e same has c it kills my libido , using prop its night and day just sub cue it eod
On this. Few thoughts
1) While Test Cyp is probably THE go to TRT test of choice it's not carved in stone that you GOTTA use it. I've had several forms of AAS that work great and others that I was 'meh' over which others LOVE (Adrol for one). I do well on Test C but if prop works better use it. Adjust as we discussed via DM. So if Test E is a no no look at Test C or, as you say, prop.
2) I remain unconvinced on the sub-q thing. But if you are seeing benefits... well do what works for YOU. In the past I could be very 'fixed' (having looked up what was best) vs manipulating things a little to suit. But these should only be 'moved' as it were to improve not to allow lazy aspects etc to creep in.
3) And, on the EOD, I'd still prefer less pinning but again if it works for you do it.

Not enough members monitor their BP. Mine, when tested, has always been good. I recently added a baby aspirin to my protocol and also use Beet Juice in my intra drink at the gym. Ditto a half cialis daily.
 
On this. Few thoughts
1) While Test Cyp is probably THE go to TRT test of choice it's not carved in stone that you GOTTA use it. I've had several forms of AAS that work great and others that I was 'meh' over which others LOVE (Adrol for one). I do well on Test C but if prop works better use it. Adjust as we discussed via DM. So if Test E is a no no look at Test C or, as you say, prop.
2) I remain unconvinced on the sub-q thing. But if you are seeing benefits... well do what works for YOU. In the past I could be very 'fixed' (having looked up what was best) vs manipulating things a little to suit. But these should only be 'moved' as it were to improve not to allow lazy aspects etc to creep in.
3) And, on the EOD, I'd still prefer less pinning but again if it works for you do it.

Not enough members monitor their BP. Mine, when tested, has always been good. I recently added a baby aspirin to my protocol and also use Beet Juice in my intra drink at the gym. Ditto a half cialis daily.
Yes I do take half a tab cials it’s ugl but works ok I did use test e but only got cyp cos all they had and mate at gym told me use sub cue with test e 0.3 mon and same Thurs if it’s 250mg - ml thats 150mg pw ? Tbh only doing sub cue for the prop cos eod IM woukd be a pain !! Might change to Mon thurs IM if that is what u recommend also is test e better then cyp ?
 
Yes I do take half a tab cials it’s ugl but works ok I did use test e but only got cyp cos all they had and mate at gym told me use sub cue with test e 0.3 mon and same Thurs if it’s 250mg - ml thats 150mg pw ? Tbh only doing sub cue for the prop cos eod IM woukd be a pain !! Might change to Mon thurs IM if that is what u recommend also is test e better then cyp ?
problem with sub Q bro is the absorption you never know
and whats been happening to your diet training bro?
 
problem with sub Q bro is the absorption you never know
and whats been happening to your diet training bro?
Well I’ve switched 4 day upper lower trying it out , upper A
Incline smith / or machine
Chest fly movement
Latpull down
Lat raise
Seated row machine
Face pull / or cable rear delts
Bicep curl
Tricep push down

Lower A
Leg press
Leg extension
Leg curl
Seated calf’s
Ab roll outs

Upper B
Flat dumbbell press
Latpull ( chin up grip )
Shoulder press smith or machine
Barbell row or machine row
Pec dec
Dumb bell shrugs
Hammer curls
Overhead tri extension

Lower B
Squats
Leg extension
Dumbbell rdl
Standing calf raise
Hanging leg raise
also 30 min incline 12 speed 3 after every workout

Working nights right now , trying work my cals out has I am gaining weight but I put that down to trt has I wasn’t before and I eat the same ? Need lose some belly fat really my job don’t help me sat down all night trucking my knee is getting better tbh oddly due to doing squats again , started doing the 531 workout just didn’t feel enough volume tho
 
problem with sub Q bro is the absorption you never know
and whats been happening to your diet training bro?
Can you do once a week IM with cup ? I hear you can or mon Thurs does it stay in the body 7 days unlike E 5 days ? I know prop is 3 ? What is the best protocol ? Thinking ditching prop has EOD is a pain
 
Well I’ve switched 4 day upper lower trying it out , upper A
Incline smith / or machine
Chest fly movement
Latpull down
Lat raise
Seated row machine
Face pull / or cable rear delts
Bicep curl
Tricep push down

Lower A
Leg press
Leg extension
Leg curl
Seated calf’s
Ab roll outs

Upper B
Flat dumbbell press
Latpull ( chin up grip )
Shoulder press smith or machine
Barbell row or machine row
Pec dec
Dumb bell shrugs
Hammer curls
Overhead tri extension

Lower B
Squats
Leg extension
Dumbbell rdl
Standing calf raise
Hanging leg raise
also 30 min incline 12 speed 3 after every workout

Working nights right now , trying work my cals out has I am gaining weight but I put that down to trt has I wasn’t before and I eat the same ? Need lose some belly fat really my job don’t help me sat down all night trucking my knee is getting better tbh oddly due to doing squats again , started doing the 531 workout just didn’t feel enough volume tho
did you talk to @Mobster about this layout bro?
seems you need to add cardio
and whats the volume?
 
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