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Need counseling and advice on a cycle I am planning to be on

deepjray

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Hello everyone, hope everyone is fine and pumping iron in the gym !

I will explain my body structure a bit. I am a 5 ft 11 30 years old and I have been obese since childhood, but have always had somewhat good muscular structure albeit hidden under layers of fat. I currently stand at 26 % body fat with 100 kgs of total weight. BMR is around 1900. I have been in the gym since a year and half and do lift heavy weights. But there is a stubborn fat in the belly and chest area. I am planning to be on the below cycle of 2 months duration and 1 month PCT.

  1. Clen : 20 mcg for 2 weeks then off for 2, continue for 8 weeks
  2. Anavar ED
  3. Test C : 10 ml once a week for 8 weeks
I am getting married in Feb. Is there any way this is worth the side effects ? Thank you in advance.
 
Hello everyone, hope everyone is fine and pumping iron in the gym !

I will explain my body structure a bit. I am a 5 ft 11 30 years old and I have been obese since childhood, but have always had somewhat good muscular structure albeit hidden under layers of fat. I currently stand at 26 % body fat with 100 kgs of total weight. BMR is around 1900. I have been in the gym since a year and half and do lift heavy weights. But there is a stubborn fat in the belly and chest area. I am planning to be on the below cycle of 2 months duration and 1 month PCT.

  1. Clen : 20 mcg for 2 weeks then off for 2, continue for 8 weeks
  2. Anavar ED
  3. Test C : 10 ml once a week for 8 weeks
I am getting married in Feb. Is there any way this is worth the side effects ? Thank you in advance.
Diet is sorted 90 %.
I would drop the clen. Not worth the possible cardiac issues. Get your diet to 100% instead.
What does your current training and cardio look like?
Make sure if you do this you have an AI on hand before you start. At a higher bodyfat you will aromatize at a higher rate. You need to keep this under control from day1.
Did you get any bloodwork prior to making the decision to start gear?
 
I would drop the clen. Not worth the possible cardiac issues. Get your diet to 100% instead.
What does your current training and cardio look like?
Make sure if you do this you have an AI on hand before you start. At a higher bodyfat you will aromatize at a higher rate. You need to keep this under control from day1.
Did you get any bloodwork prior to making the decision to start gear?
Thank you, even I was thinking of dropping the clen and trying Yohimbine instead.
My current training is intense with each muscle being targetted twice a week. Cardio is 20 minutes everyday.
I am planning on twice a day workout with each session having 20 minutes cardio.
About the AI, could you please suggest some ? And I wonder why does my trainer not suggest this, atleast let me know the options/side effects possible.
 
About the AI, could you please suggest some
I would use aromasin(exemestane) 12.5mg 3-4 times a week would prob be fine but only bloodwork can accurately tell you.

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20 mcg is a clinical dose in the countries in which clen is used for asthma, I believe. I don’t think people in South America are dropping dead on the street every time they take their asthma meds. I also don’t think 20 mcg is a sufficient dose for fat loss.
 
I certainly would never advise steroid use at your current body fat.. you are over 1/4 fat.. its NOT safe to use steroids at that kind of body fat.. your diet and training consistency and discipline has to come first... you could definitely look at sarms and peptides but as it stands, it would be an extremely bad idea to use them at your current body fat.. not to mention steroids are not weight loss drugs and would not be the answer to your goals and what you need
 
so here is the rule with clen

if you are using a low dose of it and not feeling sides then it won't do shit for you lol
so no need to even include it. and its a nasty drug at higher dosages you need to run it at. i felt like i was having a heart attack on it, daily heartburn, headaches, and it absolutely murdered my cardio and sleep health.. . i would say 5-10% of people who use clen actually like it and are already on tons of crap already so the sides are just par for the course.

you being in India should be aware of fasting protocols because a lot of people there fast due to religious reasons. so you need to do that
frankly the best thing you can do is get a log up and post pics so we can actually see what you look like. 20% body fat could really mean 10% or 30%.

also in India your diets are going to hell super fast. too much fast food and restaurant foods. you have gone away from the natural diets over the past decade which is a damn shame. go back to eating the way your parents and grandparents were eating and you will lose weight fast
 
Hello everyone, hope everyone is fine and pumping iron in the gym !

I will explain my body structure a bit. I am a 5 ft 11 30 years old and I have been obese since childhood, but have always had somewhat good muscular structure albeit hidden under layers of fat. I currently stand at 26 % body fat with 100 kgs of total weight. BMR is around 1900. I have been in the gym since a year and half and do lift heavy weights. But there is a stubborn fat in the belly and chest area. I am planning to be on the below cycle of 2 months duration and 1 month PCT.

  1. Clen : 20 mcg for 2 weeks then off for 2, continue for 8 weeks
  2. Anavar ED
  3. Test C : 10 ml once a week for 8 weeks
I am getting married in Feb. Is there any way this is worth the side effects ? Thank you in advance.
Diet is sorted 90 %. Being in India we tend to have a bit oily food. But I have been able to minimize almost the majority of oily foods and there are carbs of course but very minimal like pre and post workout.
@deepjray welcome to the evolutionary.org family, your bodyfat 26% is very high for steroid use, especially for clenbuterol use
steroids can have serious side effects especially high estrogen with your bodyfat

before you do this cycle and since you're getting married soon, we need to see your diet training right now

you need to start a new thread with your LOG journal on diet training cardio supplements, and if you cant put up a log you have no business using steroids so waiting for your log to really guide you because i bet your diet needs a LOT of work precycle

To really guide you we need more info, we need you to share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.

If you want us to really guide you, and we have 100s of years of experience between us, you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My Pre-cycle diet training Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-2023-2024-bulk-log.89292/
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https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-cycle-training-log.86383/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/dozers-journey-to-the-stage-and-cycle.84184/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidrage69-log.90127
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/first-time-tren-log.87653/
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https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/contest-peak-cycle-this-year.85007/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/new-cycle.84662/
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https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/lefr34ks-training-log.85141/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsys-training-log.83248/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/echos-hgh-log-and-cycle.85429/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-cycle-log.85538/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/

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Hello everyone, hope everyone is fine and pumping iron in the gym !

I will explain my body structure a bit. I am a 5 ft 11 30 years old and I have been obese since childhood, but have always had somewhat good muscular structure albeit hidden under layers of fat. I currently stand at 26 % body fat with 100 kgs of total weight. BMR is around 1900. I have been in the gym since a year and half and do lift heavy weights. But there is a stubborn fat in the belly and chest area. I am planning to be on the below cycle of 2 months duration and 1 month PCT.

  1. Clen : 20 mcg for 2 weeks then off for 2, continue for 8 weeks
  2. Anavar ED
  3. Test C : 10 ml once a week for 8 weeks
I am getting married in Feb. Is there any way this is worth the side effects ? Thank you in advance.
lets see your diet please
 
Hello everyone, hope everyone is fine and pumping iron in the gym !

I will explain my body structure a bit. I am a 5 ft 11 30 years old and I have been obese since childhood, but have always had somewhat good muscular structure albeit hidden under layers of fat. I currently stand at 26 % body fat with 100 kgs of total weight. BMR is around 1900. I have been in the gym since a year and half and do lift heavy weights. But there is a stubborn fat in the belly and chest area. I am planning to be on the below cycle of 2 months duration and 1 month PCT.

  1. Clen : 20 mcg for 2 weeks then off for 2, continue for 8 weeks
  2. Anavar ED
  3. Test C : 10 ml once a week for 8 weeks
I am getting married in Feb. Is there any way this is worth the side effects ? Thank you in advance.
no clen use GW bro
 
don't use clen at your body fat
There is a chance of you developing a blood clot or a stroke from it I've seen it happen plenty of times
 
I have no issues with you using steroids I've seen people and worse shape use them
just make sure you log it and you're using n2guard so we can help
 
no point in using steroids quite yet if your numbers are accurate
you need to get a log journal with your full diet and training and let's go from there
 
before we hop on steroids and drugs like clenbuterol you should get your body fat down
I recommend a log journal and I recommend posting your full diet and your cardio
 
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