Need some assistance with labs on this cycle Test/EQ/tbol

[Hsc318]

Started a cycle of 300mg/wk test E, 300mg/wk EQ, and what was supposed to be 40mg/ed oral tbol kickstart... I am very very confident I was sent oral dbol instead however. I am holding water more, feeling bloated but very strong. It's been 4 weeks on this cycle and I'm up over 15lbs, which is NOT what I was wanting. Needless to say I'm in it now though.

I need some help interpreting my labs. Note both labs were done on Thursday before injecting my second dose for the week (I inject on Monday and Thursday evenings)

These results are on 200-225mg Test C cruise only with Aromasin 6.25mg 3x per week.

Total test: 882ng/dl
Free test: 25.4pg/ml
E2: 36.3pg/ml

These above results were done right before starting and through LabCorp.

Current labs after four weeks on Test E 300/EQ 300 and what I assume is now dbol 40mg per day with the same 6.25mg Aromasin 3x per week

Total test: 575ng/dl
Free test: 171pg/ml
E2: <15pg/ml

These second labs were done through Quest Diagnostics. Now first off why the hell is Quest only giving me a reading of "<15" on my e2 and not an actual number? That pisses me off.

Is this normal on what I assume is dbol? I've never been on it before and wasn't planning to; however, I "feel" like my estrogen is elevated and I am holding water but if that e2 result is to be believed it's low. I've read dbol may or may not show up on e2 but not read anything solid on it. I've also heard EQ acts as it's on AI in a way which is why I wanted to stay on my normal AI dose despite upping test sightly to see how the EQ effected e2. So I'm wondering what to make of this data from my labs at this point and how to press forward. Don't wanna get gyno and I planned to kick start with tbol 5-6 weeks before adding tren in to finish off the cycle. Right now I have no symptoms other than bloat, I planned to go another week on 30mg dbol while starting tren then dropping the dbol. Am I good to do that and just stay with my normal 6.25mg Aromasin dose 3x per week?

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Started a cycle of 300mg/wk test E, 300mg/wk EQ, and what was supposed to be 40mg/ed oral tbol kickstart... I am very very confident I was sent oral dbol instead however. I am holding water more, feeling bloated but very strong. It's been 4 weeks on this cycle and I'm up over 15lbs, which is NOT what I was wanting. Needless to say I'm in it now though.

I need some help interpreting my labs. Note both labs were done on Thursday before injecting my second dose for the week (I inject on Monday and Thursday evenings)

These results are on 200-225mg Test C cruise only with Aromasin 6.25mg 3x per week.

Total test: 882ng/dl
Free test: 25.4pg/ml
E2: 36.3pg/ml

These above results were done right before starting and through LabCorp.

Current labs after four weeks on Test E 300/EQ 300 and what I assume is now dbol 40mg per day with the same 6.25mg Aromasin 3x per week

Total test: 575ng/dl
Free test: 171pg/ml
E2: <15pg/ml

These second labs were done through Quest Diagnostics. Now first off why the hell is Quest only giving me a reading of "<15" on my e2 and not an actual number? That pisses me off.

Is this normal on what I assume is dbol? I've never been on it before and wasn't planning to; however, I "feel" like my estrogen is elevated and I am holding water but if that e2 result is to be believed it's low. I've read dbol may or may not show up on e2 but not read anything solid on it. I've also heard EQ acts as it's on AI in a way which is why I wanted to stay on my normal AI dose despite upping test sightly to see how the EQ effected e2. So I'm wondering what to make of this data from my labs at this point and how to press forward. Don't wanna get gyno and I planned to kick start with tbol 5-6 weeks before adding tren in to finish off the cycle. Right now I have no symptoms other than bloat, I planned to go another week on 30mg dbol while starting tren then dropping the dbol. Am I good to do that and just stay with my normal 6.25mg Aromasin dose 3x per week?

@Hsc318 you can have other hormones like progesterone and prolactin cause water retention but the problem here is you came back after 3 months not updating your log (https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/hsc318-trt-and-training-log.89136). We don't know what you've been eating or how you've been training, it's a HUGE mistake bodybuilders make thinking training and diet doesn't impact hormones.

Please start a new log journal for this cycle so we can properly guide you and advise you, not just play a guessing game with your hormones.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.elitefitness.com/forum/forums/anabolic-steroids.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My testosterone equpoise cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

 

[ceo]

bros thats strange not dbol imo but lets see your LOG first before we say

 

[ROIDDERS]

its like shooting in the dark for example if you eat a lot of SOY that could explain it, can we see an updated log from you man?

 

[chesty]

I think its not dbol based on bloods but your e2 feeling maybe based on what you eat or overtrain, can you share a new LOG journal please?

 

[Ulter]

im guessing this is anadrol maybe thats why no bloat but first please share your log journal so we can see core issue

 

[StevenDarwinMD]

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[e2]

I'm with you strange results this is why seeing your log will help us

 

[2Thick]

I have a good idea whats wrong and lets see your LOG journal so I can confirm my suspicion

 

[Vadim Fedorov]

well we would be guessing your hormones without knowing your log with diet training supplements all is just a guess

 

[MONSTRO]

good to see you back on evo, before we talk hormones can you please share updated log journal? post a new one please

 

[stevesmi]

hard to know this cause you are on the AI.

the bloodwork doesn't lie, you simply could be bloated from the gear

 

[JasonPriest]

what source/brand did you use?

 

[Hsc318]

@Hsc318 you can have other hormones like progesterone and prolactin cause water retention but the problem here is you came back after 3 months not updating your log (https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/hsc318-trt-and-training-log.89136). We don't know what you've been eating or how you've been training, it's a HUGE mistake bodybuilders make thinking training and diet doesn't impact hormones.

Please start a new log journal for this cycle so we can properly guide you and advise you, not just play a guessing game with your hormones.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.elitefitness.com/forum/forums/anabolic-steroids.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My testosterone equpoise cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

I know I know I apologize. I haven't had time to keep updated my log here but I have been tracking it myself. Diet and training has not changed from the previous log. Still slightly above maintenance cals, no change in foods or anything. The only thing that has changed is the gear.

 

[Hsc318]

what source/brand did you use?

One from naps. After some research it appears to be a new one there that was a rebrand of one that was removed.

 

[Hsc318]

well we would be guessing your hormones without knowing your log with diet training supplements all is just a guess

Diet/training/supplementation has not changed since my last log. Literally the exact same minus changing to this cycle

 

[Quadsweep]

your estrogen is under control, maybe you just don't react well to that gear

 

[Hsc318]

I have a good idea whats wrong and lets see your LOG journal so I can confirm my suspicion

I have not changed diet or anything from my last log. I eat the same vertical diet with the same foods and train the same way. Again, only thing that's changed is the gear

 

[Hsc318]

hard to know this cause you are on the AI.

the bloodwork doesn't lie, you simply could be bloated from the gear

I'm just confused as the 300mg test is obviously under dosed compared to my 200mg script... So it's not that. EQ shouldn't be causing bloat, especially at only 300mg a week. Tbol wouldn't cause bloat, and I assume it wouldn't raise my free test levels that drastically being as mild as it is, so the only thing I can think is that this is dbol and the aromatization is not showing up on my e2. This is the only "article" I've read confirming my suspicion

 

[BodyMonster34]

One from naps. After some research it appears to be a new one there that was a rebrand of one that was removed.

bro if it from naps gonna be g2g. maybe yo just sensitive to test