New to steroids and interested. Advice needed.

[stevesmi]

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No not completely sure. Was told that number by someone in the fitness industry recently, but they could have just been trying to be nice.

Will definitely be focused more on getting this fat off before I do anything.

You have a link to these logs?

Thank you!

spend the next X months getting into shape. rather then waste a steroid cycle and set yourself back.

i would say you are 22% body fat but also you don't have much muscle conditioning. you need to fix your diet and fix your training. consistency is going to be key in training your body. that's why a log will be huge so get started with it ASAP and be open to suggestions that we give you

 

[jortothemax]

spend the next X months getting into shape. rather then waste a steroid cycle and set yourself back.

i would say you are 22% body fat but also you don't have much muscle conditioning. you need to fix your diet and fix your training. consistency is going to be key in training your body. that's why a log will be huge so get started with it ASAP and be open to suggestions that we give you

Going to start logging better, especially diet (calories, protein, carbs, etc)… any tips to do so, I feel like it’s going to be a hassle counting everything.

About my muscle conditioning, sure, but underneath the fat there’s something there. It’s not like I’m doing jack squat at the gym, I do go intense and as heavy as my body allows. A lot of this is genetics and age I feel. I should definitely ask to be spotted more.

 

[jortothemax]

spend the next X months getting into shape. rather then waste a steroid cycle and set yourself back.

i would say you are 22% body fat but also you don't have much muscle conditioning. you need to fix your diet and fix your training. consistency is going to be key in training your body. that's why a log will be huge so get started with it ASAP and be open to suggestions that we give you

Also if you want to give me any tips on how to train better that would be very appreciated. You say I’m not training hard enough and to hear that is very intimidating and has me thinking pessimistic… I train very hard and as intense as I can focusing on reps rather than volume.

Today I’m focusing heavy on cardio primarily.

Here is an example of what I did for back:

Deadlift:
135lbs - 8 reps (warm up)
185lbs - 12 reps
225lbs - 10 reps
275lbs - 8 reps
225 lbs - 11 reps

Lat pull down:
120lbs - 8 reps warm up
143lbs - 14 reps
163lbs - 12 reps
170lbs - 8 reps
163lbs - 10 reps

Pull overs (done back and forth with lay pull downs):
44lbs - 8 reps warm up
55lbs - 12 reps
60lbs - 10 reps
65 lbs - 8 reps
60lbs - 11 reps

Close grip pull downs:
121lbs - 14 reps
143lbs - 12 reps
163lbs - 10 reps
143 lbs - 12 reps

Cable rows-
121lbs - 10 reps
143lbs - 12 reps
148lbs - 10 reps
143lbs - 11 reps

Bicep curls:
80lbs - 14 reps
90lbs - 14 reps
100lbs - 12 reps
115 lbs - 12 reps

 

[jortothemax]

Have attached my log from chronometer for today so far. Gotta cut out those red lobster biscuits . Pretty good I would say, need more cals though. Usually eat cottage cheese and yogurt before bed as well. I did an hour and a half of cardio today as well, planning for do 30 mins of cardio when weight training as well.

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Have attached my log from chronometer for today so far. Gotta cut out those red lobster biscuits . Pretty good I would say, need more cals though. Usually eat cottage cheese and yogurt before bed as well. I did an hour and a half of cardio today as well, planning for do 30 mins of cardio when weight training as well.

@jortothemax has a new log up lets move there
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-precycle-diet-training-log.97581/

 

[RickRock]

You need to get in much better shape before running a cycle

 

[jortothemax]

You need to get in much better shape before running a cycle

That’s the plan, Rick.

 

[Noah Wixx]

Cut calories by 300-500 calories cardio atleast 5 days a week 45-60 minutes low carb high protein real food and proper food choices lean protein sources.

 

[jortothemax]

Cut calories by 300-500 calories cardio atleast 5 days a week 45-60 minutes low carb high protein real food and proper food choices lean protein sources.

Noted thank you.

 

[25homes]

bro get your diet locked in and get cardio going for 6 months then lets talk about a cycle. you got a lot of potential naturally to take advantage of b4 you go using aas. get a log going bro. Link to my log right below here bro. can see how a transformation works

 

[jortothemax]

bro get your diet locked in and get cardio going for 6 months then lets talk about a cycle. you got a lot of potential naturally to take advantage of b4 you go using aas. get a log going bro. Link to my log right below here bro. can see how a transformation works

 

[dylangemelli]

Yes I know that. Like Steve said, if I do make the jump, it won’t be until I’m around 15% bf.

sarms would be a good option to look at which could also help accelerate your fat loss...

 

[jortothemax]

sarms would be a good option to look at which could also help accelerate your fat loss...

Aren’t they kind of a no-no though?

 

[ballin2504]

Aren’t they kind of a no-no though?

They would be a great option for you to help cut body fat

 

[jortothemax]

They would be a great option for you to help cut body fat

Recommendations?

 

[LevButlerov]

Recommendations?

@jortothemax lets move convo to your log
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-precycle-diet-training-log.97581/

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

You could even run something as simple as Cardarine only. 20mg per day is plenty. But the real progress will come with the diet. Just keep pushing forward.

 

[jortothemax]

You could even run something as simple as Cardarine only. 20mg per day is plenty. But the real progress will come with the diet. Just keep pushing forward.

You have any sites I can buy from? Based in Canada.

 

[LevButlerov]

You have any sites I can buy from? Based in Canada.

@jortothemax honestly if you want high quality sarms, umbrella labs is the way, they in USA but easy shipping to CA, I use them myself and my clients use them.

also @jortothemax can you tell me why you haven't updated your log journal?
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-precycle-diet-training-log.97581/