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+NPP into my Test and Primo cycle?

juddy

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Evo Fam,

I’ve always intended to incorporate NPP into my cycle, and now feels like the right time.

My current cycle includes 300 mg/week of Test E and 300 mg/week of Primobolan, administered EOD via IM injection. Additionally, I’ve been using 25 mg of Anavar pre-workout. For more details on my cycle and bloodwork, check out my log link in the signature.

I recently started NPP at a weekly dosage of 100 mg (about 35 mg EOD), but I’m considering increasing it to 200 mg/week to further support muscle growth.

Here’s where I could use your advice:

1. E2 Levels: My estradiol was recently measured at 105, slightly above the reference range. This was before adding NPP, and I anticipate the introduction of NPP might make this more challenging to manage.

2. Stable Dosages: The combination of 300 mg Test E and 300 mg Primobolan feels fantastic for me, so I’d prefer to avoid altering these dosages.


My Questions:

1. What would you recommend as the optimal NPP dosage for this cycle, given my current setup and my desire to minimize adjustments to testosterone and Primobolan?

2. Between Arimidex (1 mg capsules) and Aromasin (10 mg capsules), which do you think is better for managing my estradiol? What dosage would you recommend to effectively control E2 without over-suppressing it?

Juddy
 
I think 200mg of NPP is more than enough and you should be fine with it. Take 10mg of Aromasin on Monday and Friday. You can also take P5P for prolactin levels getting too high. Also take the b vitamins. You also most likely take 25mg proviron per day if your going to use the NPP.
 
Evo Fam,

I’ve always intended to incorporate NPP into my cycle, and now feels like the right time.

My current cycle includes 300 mg/week of Test E and 300 mg/week of Primobolan, administered EOD via IM injection. Additionally, I’ve been using 25 mg of Anavar pre-workout. For more details on my cycle and bloodwork, check out my log link in the signature.

I recently started NPP at a weekly dosage of 100 mg (about 35 mg EOD), but I’m considering increasing it to 200 mg/week to further support muscle growth.

Here’s where I could use your advice:

1. E2 Levels: My estradiol was recently measured at 105, slightly above the reference range. This was before adding NPP, and I anticipate the introduction of NPP might make this more challenging to manage.

2. Stable Dosages: The combination of 300 mg Test E and 300 mg Primobolan feels fantastic for me, so I’d prefer to avoid altering these dosages.


My Questions:

1. What would you recommend as the optimal NPP dosage for this cycle, given my current setup and my desire to minimize adjustments to testosterone and Primobolan?

2. Between Arimidex (1 mg capsules) and Aromasin (10 mg capsules), which do you think is better for managing my estradiol? What dosage would you recommend to effectively control E2 without over-suppressing it?

Juddy
1. What would you recommend as the optimal NPP dosage for this cycle, given my current setup and my desire to minimize adjustments to testosterone and Primobolan?
@juddy It's hard to say on optimal doses but I would start with 100mgs NPP 50/50 split.

2. Between Arimidex (1 mg capsules) and Aromasin (10 mg capsules), which do you think is better for managing my estradiol? What dosage would you recommend to effectively control E2 without over-suppressing it?
10mgs aromasin 2x/week is a better option, its a safer Ai.

@AE1079 @Pigsy can add to this please.
 
I think 200mg of NPP is more than enough and you should be fine with it. Take 10mg of Aromasin on Monday and Friday. You can also take P5P for prolactin levels getting too high. Also take the b vitamins. You also most likely take 25mg proviron per day if your going to use the NPP.

Thank you @RoidRage69, yeah proviron has been mentioned before and B complex vitamins are on shopping list, will find one woth p5p.

With the Asin, ive never used an AI before, as E2 management has been via dropped dosages and using primo to a fair bit of success. 10mg twice per week, too easy.
 
@juddy It's hard to say on optimal doses but I would start with 100mgs NPP 50/50 split.


10mgs aromasin 2x/week is a better option, its a safer Ai.

@AE1079 @Pigsy can add to this please.

I would do half a tab 12.5mg Monday and Friday. But hard spliting a 25mg tab to make 10mg. I found npp effective from 100mg. But most my cycles are 200mg
 
@juddy It's hard to say on optimal doses but I would start with 100mgs NPP 50/50 split.


10mgs aromasin 2x/week is a better option, its a safer Ai.

@AE1079 @Pigsy can add to this please.
Aromasin is way better at managing E2, it’s a type A AI, steroidal back bone so there will be some degree of anabolism associated with it, being suicidal in nature causing less total gyno formation. Where as arimidex is a short term solution as once it’s removed, it can lead to spikes of E2 that can be uncontrolled causing gyno on low test, as the ratio of T:E will lead to subsequent e2 sides
 
i switched to aromasin years ago and its truly the best
 
NPP dose has nothing to do with the dose of the other compounds. There are no magic ratios or anything like that. Just think of them as individual compounds......as they are. If your goal was simply joint relief, I would keep it at 100mg. If you were looking to add more muscle, I would bump it to 300mg.
 
NPP dose has nothing to do with the dose of the other compounds. There are no magic ratios or anything like that. Just think of them as individual compounds......as they are. If your goal was simply joint relief, I would keep it at 100mg. If you were looking to add more muscle, I would bump it to 300mg.
Thanks! Yeah joint pain relief is one of the reasons, and I was thinking 300mg on all 3 sounded good. Not sure if 300mg of a 19-Nor is going to be good for my mental health 🤔
 
Sometimes your joints will end up worse.

The reason is you pound away while on cycle and then when you come off, you've got issues.
 
Best thing you can do here is log this.
This way, we'll know exactly what you're doing.
 
This will be a very good log to follow.
Why don't you post it up for us? And we can definitely hit this hard.
 
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