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Overthinking Proviron and Winny during cycle?

JG1133

Proficient Brother
Greetings bros/gals -

Hope y'all had a great Christmas and New Year! I have a cycle coming up in a little over a month and am looking for a little guidance. I have everything I need for the cycle gear/supps/vitamins/my PCT/etc., I just am a little confused on where to use my Proviron and Winny?
Just so everyone knows here are my stats, I don't compete, and just looking to put on more healthy weight.
6' / 192 lbs. / 12.2% BF / 44 YO
Cycle 12 weeks
Test - 300 MG/week
Deca - 250 MG/week
Proviron - 25MG/ED (from day 1 up to the last day of PCT)? *need suggestions on this
Winny? - I know what I'm thinking about, but would like expert advice on when to through it in on this run, and I can do 25 or 50 MG/day?

Thank you all for your help!
 
Greetings bros/gals -

Hope y'all had a great Christmas and New Year! I have a cycle coming up in a little over a month and am looking for a little guidance. I have everything I need for the cycle gear/supps/vitamins/my PCT/etc., I just am a little confused on where to use my Proviron and Winny?
Just so everyone knows here are my stats, I don't compete, and just looking to put on more healthy weight.
6' / 192 lbs. / 12.2% BF / 44 YO
Cycle 12 weeks
Test - 300 MG/week
Deca - 250 MG/week
Proviron - 25MG/ED (from day 1 up to the last day of PCT)? *need suggestions on this
Winny? - I know what I'm thinking about, but would like expert advice on when to through it in on this run, and I can do 25 or 50 MG/day?

Thank you all for your help!
@JG1133 welcome back to the EVO family :D we missed you. Last time I saw you post was in 2023 about a cycle, it was also test deca basically this:
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/how-does-cycle-look.95790/

Stats: 6'1, 180 lbs. 15 % BF. Have been working out consistently for years, but will be my 1st cycle in over 3 years. Looking for 15-20 more good lbs.
Weeks 1-12
Test E - 250 mg/wk
Deca - 200 mg/wk
HGH - 1 IU/day
Proviron - 50 mg/day
Weeks 9-15
Winstrol tabs 30 mg/day
*will continue the Proviron through week 15 before PCT
Supps on cycle: N2Guard, creatine, DIM, ashwaghanda, maca, gingko biloba, etc, etc... (all the usual suspects)
Please critique thanks!
What happened to this cycle? you seemed to gain 12lbs over the year+.

I think its a serious thing you're asking about cycling, and you really do need to share with the EVO family if you want actual answers.
For example, you want expert advice on winstrol use, but we dont even know what you eat or how you train or your sleep or anything else.
You've been here for a long time, I think since 2017 and no shares with the EVO family.

I would really insist, please share your LOG journal with the EVO family, we would welcome it and it's easy, just put up your training and diet and it would take you 15-20min/week. You start the log NOW before you even start the cycle, to prep for it.

If you want us to guide you properly, we need to see your LOG, please start one asap and I will lay out HOW TO below:

To really guide you we need more info, we need you to share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
We have 100s of years of experience between us, you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: Training, testosterone deca cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle


here are examples of LOG Journals

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-recomp-cut-log-2023-2024.96694/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/mobsters-training-diary.84438/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidrage69-log.90127
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/domestic-supply-bulking-log-25homes-max.97609/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...obolan-equipoise-tbol-contest-prep-log.97138/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...osterone-deca-primobolan-hgh-cycle-log.97978/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...igas-hgh-and-bpc157-recovery-cycle-log.97594/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...enbolone-cycle-log-let-the-gains-begin.98399/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsy-new-sponsor-ugl-contest-prep-log.96779/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-2023-2024-log.95956/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...stosterone-cardarine-cutting-cycle-log.97281/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidragewife-female-training-log.95769/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/2024-lean-bulking-cycle-log.97986/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-with-deca-durabolin-log.97962/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...bodybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.97210/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/losiol-primobolan-testosterone-log.96581/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roughy-steroid-cycle-and-training.97944/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/fatboy999-2024-cycle-log.97936/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/testosterone-equipoise-trenbolone-cycle-log.96963/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-log.98284/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/16-week-testosterone-cardarine-n2guard-cycle-log.98034/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/training-log-female.90425
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...tosterone-masteron-primobolan-blast-log.98328
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/25homes-revenge-transformation-log-2023.88570/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...n-season-sponsored-by-nordic-fusion-log.89817
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/

P.S. are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should; this podcast is about steroids, sarms, peptides, and bodybuilding:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/

P.P.S. download our eBooks and learn more:
https://irongorillas.com
 
Great question, i also need to do more research on Proviron. I was asking myself exactly the same thing but with a planned cycle with Test, Primo and Var. Ive queued up a few evo podcasts/vigorous steve videos to see if i can answer this myself.
@VitalGains whats your plan for cycling? you cycle before? share with the EVO family please
 
@VitalGains whats your plan for cycling? you cycle before? share with the EVO family please
I dont want to hijack this post. But i will be doing a log this year with all the details shortly. I have cycled in the past, but wanting to learn more. At this stage im just getting ready to get my bloods, PED's, and Anciliaries sorted, once these are sorted ill get a log posted.
 
@JG1133 welcome back to the EVO family :D we missed you. Last time I saw you post was in 2023 about a cycle, it was also test deca basically this:
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/how-does-cycle-look.95790/


What happened to this cycle? you seemed to gain 12lbs over the year+.

I think its a serious thing you're asking about cycling, and you really do need to share with the EVO family if you want actual answers.
For example, you want expert advice on winstrol use, but we dont even know what you eat or how you train or your sleep or anything else.
You've been here for a long time, I think since 2017 and no shares with the EVO family.

I would really insist, please share your LOG journal with the EVO family, we would welcome it and it's easy, just put up your training and diet and it would take you 15-20min/week. You start the log NOW before you even start the cycle, to prep for it.

If you want us to guide you properly, we need to see your LOG, please start one asap and I will lay out HOW TO below:

To really guide you we need more info, we need you to share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
We have 100s of years of experience between us, you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: Training, testosterone deca cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle


here are examples of LOG Journals

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-recomp-cut-log-2023-2024.96694/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/mobsters-training-diary.84438/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidrage69-log.90127
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/domestic-supply-bulking-log-25homes-max.97609/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...obolan-equipoise-tbol-contest-prep-log.97138/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...osterone-deca-primobolan-hgh-cycle-log.97978/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...igas-hgh-and-bpc157-recovery-cycle-log.97594/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...enbolone-cycle-log-let-the-gains-begin.98399/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsy-new-sponsor-ugl-contest-prep-log.96779/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-2023-2024-log.95956/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...stosterone-cardarine-cutting-cycle-log.97281/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidragewife-female-training-log.95769/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/2024-lean-bulking-cycle-log.97986/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-with-deca-durabolin-log.97962/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...bodybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.97210/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/losiol-primobolan-testosterone-log.96581/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roughy-steroid-cycle-and-training.97944/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/fatboy999-2024-cycle-log.97936/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/testosterone-equipoise-trenbolone-cycle-log.96963/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-log.98284/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/16-week-testosterone-cardarine-n2guard-cycle-log.98034/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/training-log-female.90425
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...tosterone-masteron-primobolan-blast-log.98328
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/25homes-revenge-transformation-log-2023.88570/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...n-season-sponsored-by-nordic-fusion-log.89817
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/

P.S. are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should; this podcast is about steroids, sarms, peptides, and bodybuilding:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/

P.P.S. download our eBooks and learn more:
https://irongorillas.com
Hey! All is well. On that cycle I dropped the HGH and ended up doing only 25 MG/day Proviron, and got great results. I've gained about 12 lbs since 2023, but not all good lbs of course. I will log my next cycle upon startup.
 
@JG1133 welcome back to the EVO family :D we missed you. Last time I saw you post was in 2023 about a cycle, it was also test deca basically this:
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/how-does-cycle-look.95790/


What happened to this cycle? you seemed to gain 12lbs over the year+.

I think its a serious thing you're asking about cycling, and you really do need to share with the EVO family if you want actual answers.
For example, you want expert advice on winstrol use, but we dont even know what you eat or how you train or your sleep or anything else.
You've been here for a long time, I think since 2017 and no shares with the EVO family.

I would really insist, please share your LOG journal with the EVO family, we would welcome it and it's easy, just put up your training and diet and it would take you 15-20min/week. You start the log NOW before you even start the cycle, to prep for it.

If you want us to guide you properly, we need to see your LOG, please start one asap and I will lay out HOW TO below:

To really guide you we need more info, we need you to share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
We have 100s of years of experience between us, you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: Training, testosterone deca cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle


here are examples of LOG Journals

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-recomp-cut-log-2023-2024.96694/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/mobsters-training-diary.84438/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidrage69-log.90127
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/domestic-supply-bulking-log-25homes-max.97609/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...obolan-equipoise-tbol-contest-prep-log.97138/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...osterone-deca-primobolan-hgh-cycle-log.97978/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...igas-hgh-and-bpc157-recovery-cycle-log.97594/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...enbolone-cycle-log-let-the-gains-begin.98399/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsy-new-sponsor-ugl-contest-prep-log.96779/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-2023-2024-log.95956/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...stosterone-cardarine-cutting-cycle-log.97281/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidragewife-female-training-log.95769/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/2024-lean-bulking-cycle-log.97986/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-with-deca-durabolin-log.97962/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...bodybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.97210/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/losiol-primobolan-testosterone-log.96581/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roughy-steroid-cycle-and-training.97944/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/fatboy999-2024-cycle-log.97936/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/testosterone-equipoise-trenbolone-cycle-log.96963/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-log.98284/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/16-week-testosterone-cardarine-n2guard-cycle-log.98034/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/training-log-female.90425
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...tosterone-masteron-primobolan-blast-log.98328
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/25homes-revenge-transformation-log-2023.88570/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...n-season-sponsored-by-nordic-fusion-log.89817
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/

P.S. are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should; this podcast is about steroids, sarms, peptides, and bodybuilding:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/

P.P.S. download our eBooks and learn more:
https://irongorillas.com
Thanks will do as soon as I can!
 
i've never felt the need to use winny more then 25mgs. that was plenty for me
 
Hey! All is well. On that cycle I dropped the HGH and ended up doing only 25 MG/day Proviron, and got great results. I've gained about 12 lbs since 2023, but not all good lbs of course. I will log my next cycle upon startup.

Thanks will do as soon as I can!
Welcome back to the EVO family:) @JG1133
I was wondering how the cycle went.
You don’t need to wait for gear to start a log, before even the gear arrives. Let’s dial in your training, cardio and nutrition. Start log today.
Big family here will guide you.
EVO is a judgement free zone so you won’t get judged just support.
 
Welcome back to the EVO family:) @JG1133
I was wondering how the cycle went.
You don’t need to wait for gear to start a log, before even the gear arrives. Let’s dial in your training, cardio and nutrition. Start log today.
Big family here will guide you.
EVO is a judgement free zone so you won’t get judged just support.
I don't ever wait on geat haha 🤣🤣 I always have everything I need before starting cycle (probably 8 months to a year in advance) 🤷🏼😂😂😍
 
Welcome back to the EVO family:) @JG1133
I was wondering how the cycle went.
You don’t need to wait for gear to start a log, before even the gear arrives. Let’s dial in your training, cardio and nutrition. Start log today.
Big family here will guide you.
EVO is a judgement free zone so you won’t get judged just support.
That's some weird vibes my man. 🤣
 
I don't ever wait on geat haha 🤣🤣 I always have everything I need before starting cycle (probably 8 months to a year in advance) 🤷🏼😂😂😍
Never wait on great 😂 I like that lol
Interesting to see how your cycle plays out but the log EVO family will all be interested in training nutrition
So let’s start it now :) @JG1133
 
proviron and winstrol are 2 different steroids entirely.
proviron is much more gentle.
 
Proviron’s a solid addition to your cycle because it helps with androgenic support, lowers SHBG (which boosts free testosterone), and can even give your libido a bit of a kick. The best way to run it is to start on Day 1 of your cycle and keep it going for the full 12 weeks. No need to use it during PCT, though, since it can mess with your natural testosterone recovery. Proviron isn’t really a major anabolic, so it doesn’t add much value in PCT- stick to Clomid or Nolvadex for that.

As for Winstrol, it’s better saved for the last 6-8 weeks of your cycle. It’s great for leaning out, drying up, and adding some definition, especially since by then the Deca and Test will have built a good base for growth. Start with 25mg a day for the first week to see how you handle it. If everything feels fine (no joint aches or liver stress), you can bump it up to 50mg a day. Try splitting the dose between morning and evening to keep things steady. Just keep Winstrol to a max of 6-8 weeks since it’s rough on your liver, especially the oral version.
 
trust me when I say you're not gonna want to run winstrol.

it will shed your hair like nothing else
 
you need to put up a log journal in detail exactly what you're looking for and post up pictures so we know what you look like
 
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