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PCT advice?

Sorry Eddie, not been very clear in my reply’s.. don’t bang too had. I am shelving the cycle of Deca/Sus for now and I’ll try the HGH cycle to help my injury along the road to recovery.

Oh. Okay. Yes, that's a good choice, Seanspero. Please keep us privy to your results.

Too, I didn't bang me dome against a wall because of anything that you wrote. I did so due to my having asked "HGH for as a part of PCT?" rather than "HGH as a part of PCT?"
Duhhhh, my name is "Eddie."
 
Oh. Okay. Yes, that's a good choice, Seanspero. Please keep us privy to your results.

Too, I didn't bang me dome against a wall because of anything that you wrote. I did so due to my having asked "HGH for as a part of PCT?" rather than "HGH as a part of PCT?"
Duhhhh, my name is "Eddie."


Ha! That’s no problem Eddie, I’ll keep you up to date for sure once I learn more about the doses! The injury I have started with damage to the posterior scalene muscle in my neck which caused me to hurt the tricep tendon on the same side of my body! It’s been 8 weeks down the road with plenty of physio and I am struggling along with not much improvement in the muscle and only slight pain relief in the tendon.... I am 45 so I get the slow recovery, but geez really! That being said the info I got from the guys about HGH etc has made me feel very positive!
 
Ha! That’s no problem Eddie, I’ll keep you up to date for sure once I learn more about the doses! The injury I have started with damage to the posterior scalene muscle in my neck which caused me to hurt the tricep tendon on the same side of my body! It’s been 8 weeks down the road with plenty of physio and I am struggling along with not much improvement in the muscle and only slight pain relief in the tendon.... I am 45 so I get the slow recovery, but geez really! That being said the info I got from the guys about HGH etc has made me feel very positive!

What were you doing when you sustained that injury?


"I am 45 so I get the slow recovery..."

No shit, you're 45?
Aside from recovering slowly, what's it like to be so damned old?
 
No shit, you're 45?
Aside from recovering slowly, what's it like to be so damned old?[/QUOTE]

Hey hey! Slowly now! Did I mention my brain still tells me I am 16! CrossFit injury, funny thing is it was doing something I have done for years!( being old and all!)
 
No shit, you're 45?
Aside from recovering slowly, what's it like to be so damned old?

Hey hey! Slowly now! Did I mention my brain still tells me I am 16! CrossFit injury, funny thing is it was doing something I have done for years!( being old and all!)[/QUOTE]

So what you're saying, old man, is that your having injured yourself while performing a CrossFit exercise that you had performed a thousand times over your many years, was a classic case of injury born of complacency. Gotcha! :-)

I hope that I never get that old.
 
Hey hey! Slowly now! Did I mention my brain still tells me I am 16! CrossFit injury, funny thing is it was doing something I have done for years!( being old and all!)

So what you're saying, old man, is that your having injured yourself while performing a CrossFit exercise that you had performed a thousand times over your many years, was a classic case of injury born of complacency. Gotcha! :-)

I hope that I never get that old.[/QUOTE]

Oh! But we all do!ill blame Alzheimer’s and stick to it!
 
So what you're saying, old man, is that your having injured yourself while performing a CrossFit exercise that you had performed a thousand times over your many years, was a classic case of injury born of complacency. Gotcha! :-)

I hope that I never get that old.

Oh! But we all do!ill blame Alzheimer’s and stick to it![/QUOTE]

Okay. Once I grow old, I'll do that ... should I be able to remember all that.
 
Hey Everyone,
I am new to this website and I was hoping to get some input about the PCT for my upcoming cycle? I’ll be starting a Deca/Sus stack soon for an injury that I am trying to rehab and I would like to be as bang on with the results as I can be. The cycle I’ll using will be as follows,
Week 1, 500mg SUS, week 2-10, 300mg Deca and 500mg Sus, then week 11-12 back to 500 mg Sus only.
The PCT I had in mind is Proviron at 25mg from week 4 until Week 14 and then Clomid from week 14 until week 17 starting at 100mg every day, then 50mg for the remaining two weeks. I don’t want to use Nolvadex with Deca but some have suggested an Hcg during the cycle and before the Clomid and I have even had suggestion of using AROMASIN through the cycle. Since I have never used other Hcg or AROMASIN I outdone appreciate thoughts on this?

You NEVER want to run proviron in a PCT as it is suppressive.

On cycle you want to use aromasin for estrogen support -> https://www.evolutionary.org/aromasin-exemestane

Run the perfect PCT after every steroid cycle you do -> https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/perfect-pct-simplified!-49252.html
 
You NEVER want to run proviron in a PCT as it is suppressive.

This is the sort of conflicting information I mentioned in another topic about proviron. Some drug profiles say it's not suppressive, others say it is, some users flame it's not, others say it it is. Vision claims it's not and he says he has his bloods results to prove it.
I always believed proviron is not a suppressive drug.

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This is the sort of conflicting information I mentioned in another topic about proviron. Some drug profiles say it's not suppressive, others say it is, some users flame it's not, others say it it is. Vision claims it's not and he says he has his bloods results to prove it.
I always believed proviron is not a suppressive drug.

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If it is, it never affected me.
 
This is the sort of conflicting information I mentioned in another topic about proviron. Some drug profiles say it's not suppressive, others say it is, some users flame it's not, others say it it is. Vision claims it's not and he says he has his bloods results to prove it.
I always believed proviron is not a suppressive drug.

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And there it is, Reason #10,000 why this completely illogical prohibition against AAS must end.
 
This is the sort of conflicting information I mentioned in another topic about proviron. Some drug profiles say it's not suppressive, others say it is, some users flame it's not, others say it it is. Vision claims it's not and he says he has his bloods results to prove it.
I always believed proviron is not a suppressive drug.

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BroScience works for some things. But when it can be tested, look for the real thing.



Int J Gynaecol Obstet. 1988 Feb;26(1):121-8.

The effect of mesterolone on sperm count, on serum follicle stimulating hormone, luteinizing hormone, plasma testosterone and outcome in idiopathic oligospermic men.

Varma TR, Patel RH.

Department of Obstetrics & Gynaecology, St. George's Hospital Medical School London, U.K.

Two hundred fifty subfertile men with idiopathic oligospermia (count less than 20 million/ml) were treated with mesterolone (100-150 mg/day) for 12 months. Seminal analysis were assa 3 times and serum follicle stimulating hormone (FSH - follicle stimulating hormone - ) luteinizing hormone (lh - leutenizing hormone - ) and plasma testosterone were assa once before treatment and repeated at 3, 6, 9 and 12 months after the initiation of treatment. One hundred ten patients (44%) had normal serum FSH - follicle stimulating hormone - , lh - leutenizing hormone - and plasma testosterone, 85 patients (34%) had low serum FSH - follicle stimulating hormone - , lh - leutenizing hormone - and low plasma testosterone. One hundred seventy-five patients (70%) had moderate oligospermia (count 5 to less than 20 million/ml) and 75 patients (30%) had severe oligospermia (count less than 5 million/ml). Seventy-five moderately oligospermic patients showed significant improvement in the sperm density, total sperm count and motility following mesterolone therapy whereas only 12% showed improvement in the severe oligospermic group. Mesterolone had no depressing effect on low or normal serum FSH - follicle stimulating hormone - and lh - leutenizing hormone - levels but had depressing effect on 25% if the levels were elevated. There was no significant adverse effect on testosterone levels or on liver function. One hundred fifteen (46%) pregnancies resulted following the treatment, 9 of 115 (7.8%) aborted and 2 (1.7%) had ectopic pregnancy. Mesterolone was found to be more useful in patients with a sperm count ranging between 5 and 20 million/ml. Those with severe oligospermia (count less than 5 million) do not seem to benefit from this therapy.
 
Great find E!

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Thx man. Drives me nuts reading bullshit people spew and really just using broscience when the real science is there.

Save the broscience for shit like “what is the equivalent of a 50mg winny compared to beer”. Being that no one will ever test that, it is pure broscience. And I accept that.
 
This is the sort of conflicting information I mentioned in another topic about proviron. Some drug profiles say it's not suppressive, others say it is, some users flame it's not, others say it it is. Vision claims it's not and he says he has his bloods results to prove it.
I always believed proviron is not a suppressive drug.

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Proviron is a steroid. It is suppressive
 
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