Phlebotomy During Cycle. Heart Health

[JasonPriest]

This is going to be a really cool log to take a look at
I'm looking forward to seeing it just like the other people

 

[BodyMonster34]

bro you don't want to mess too much with your doctor
you're gonna find out you're messing around too much

 

[Quadsweep]

definitely get the blood work on your own that is a smart decision
let us know if you find the link and everything that working for you

 

[MadStacker]

you can get bloodwork independently from the link in steve's signature
do you see it?

I didn't at first glance. Still getting used to it all. My first forum but definitely enjoying the community here. That's big for me. I will definitely get the ball rolling on all of this.

 

[dylangemelli]

Donating is important, especially when using equipoise, however the concerns long term for cholesterol and blood pressure are very real and should be taken very seriously... Donating blood is not going to rectify those areas... I have extensive work that I have done in terms of cholesterol, heart health etc and so the seriousness I put particularly in that area is serious and may seem over board to some, however IMO it should be taken that serious... regardless, basic lipid panels tell you next to nothing.. It is IMPERATIVE to look at LPa, APoB and particle sizes... The best cardiologists will tell you than you need an advanced or comprehensive lipid panel to really understand and know your risk.. basic LDL, HDL and triglycerides are not going to identify the issues... HCRP is also quite important

 

[MadStacker]

Donating is important, especially when using equipoise, however the concerns long term for cholesterol and blood pressure are very real and should be taken very seriously... Donating blood is not going to rectify those areas... I have extensive work that I have done in terms of cholesterol, heart health etc and so the seriousness I put particularly in that area is serious and may seem over board to some, however IMO it should be taken that serious... regardless, basic lipid panels tell you next to nothing.. It is IMPERATIVE to look at LPa, APoB and particle sizes... The best cardiologists will tell you than you need an advanced or comprehensive lipid panel to really understand and know your risk.. basic LDL, HDL and triglycerides are not going to identify the issues... HCRP is also quite important

Good info here. I agree 100% donating blood will not fix a shit diet and lifestyle. It's a "both, and" conversation for sure.

Thanks for the additional health markers to consider. I notated them so I can bring them up to cardiologist. I have a phlebotomy appointment on the 22nd. (Referred out)

The following week when I analyze these with my physician I will ask for a referral to cardiologist here in town so I can get in depth on this.

In my family high cholesterol is there. It sucks but at the same time it allows me to consider it in a responsible fashion instead of being reckless.

I see a lot of youngsters get into this without thinking about these things and I don't think it's right. I see a lot of posts like "hey I'm gonna run 600mg test a week for 18 weeks, how much muscle can I put on."

So much goes to the wayside and I think you highlighted some of that here.

(I will have my log up for sure fam)

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Good info here. I agree 100% donating blood will not fix a shit diet and lifestyle. It's a "both, and" conversation for sure.

Thanks for the additional health markers to consider. I notated them so I can bring them up to cardiologist. I have a phlebotomy appointment on the 22nd. (Referred out)

The following week when I analyze these with my physician I will ask for a referral to cardiologist here in town so I can get in depth on this.

In my family high cholesterol is there. It sucks but at the same time it allows me to consider it in a responsible fashion instead of being reckless.

I see a lot of youngsters get into this without thinking about these things and I don't think it's right. I see a lot of posts like "hey I'm gonna run 600mg test a week for 18 weeks, how much muscle can I put on."

So much goes to the wayside and I think you highlighted some of that here.

(I will have my log up for sure fam)

@MadStacker would like to see more you give blood first if you can but fixing diet is crucial
we are waiting for your LOG journal please post it asap

 

[dylangemelli]

Good info here. I agree 100% donating blood will not fix a shit diet and lifestyle. It's a "both, and" conversation for sure.

Thanks for the additional health markers to consider. I notated them so I can bring them up to cardiologist. I have a phlebotomy appointment on the 22nd. (Referred out)

The following week when I analyze these with my physician I will ask for a referral to cardiologist here in town so I can get in depth on this.

In my family high cholesterol is there. It sucks but at the same time it allows me to consider it in a responsible fashion instead of being reckless.

I see a lot of youngsters get into this without thinking about these things and I don't think it's right. I see a lot of posts like "hey I'm gonna run 600mg test a week for 18 weeks, how much muscle can I put on."

So much goes to the wayside and I think you highlighted some of that here.

(I will have my log up for sure fam)

yes if there is high cholesterol, you most certainly want to stay on top of it.. i have a large supplemental regimen i do as well.. i may even go a bit over board but i found heredity issues with my LPa and then found plaque in my arteries.. had i not done a CAC score, I would have NEVER known anything about this...

 

[Noah Wixx]

I just always donate as a precaution

 

[Mobster]

Sometimes family issues are not genetic but family habits

 

[MadStacker]

Sometimes family issues are not genetic but family habits

Nature vs. nurture, baby. Mobster, I didn't know you were a behavioral therapist. Haha

 

[Mobster]

Nature vs. nurture, baby. Mobster, I didn't know you were a behavioral therapist. Haha

Old man wisdom. How many claim 'fat genes' and when you look... fat habits. If you're surrounded by fat it becomes normal

 

[ballin2504]

I donate blood about every 2-3 months

 

[MadStacker]

Old man wisdom. How many claim 'fat genes' and when you look... fat habits. If you're surrounded by fat it becomes normal

"I got a thyroid problem."

QUIT EATING THYROIDS - Chris Tucker

 

[MadStacker]

@MadStacker IMO the easiest way is to donate blood but that doesnt work for everyone.

We have a member @dominion7 that had a phlebotomy recently, you can check his LOG:
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-trt-with-deca-durabolin-log.97962/

The issue here @MadStacker is we dont know anything about you. It would be nice for you to share your cycle with us, training diet, in a NEW LOG journal thread. We can discuss your cycle and your need for a potential phlebotomy and why, how your diet is realted to it, how your training and lifestyle is too. Either way, having a log up is a MUST in our community. This way we can help and guide you.

To really guide you we need more info, we need you to share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.

If you want us to really guide you, and we have 100s of years of experience between us, you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

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___ = the name of your log
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in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

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https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/hsc318-testosterone-trenbolone-cycle-log-part-2.90696/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-pre-cycle-diet-training-log.90712/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/supertiredwantfood-high-protein-log-female.95670/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsy-log-for-2023.87439/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/littletimetrouble-big-time-trt-log.90656/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ning-strength-staying-lean-third-cycle.96026/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/log-macs-bulk-2023.89802/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/dbol-and-test-cypionate-10-week-log.90745/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/training-log-female.90425/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pre-cycle-trt-log.90735/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/powerlifting-2023-2024-cycle-log-female.95657/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/mobsters-training-diary.84438/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidragewife-female-training-log.95769/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-2023-2024-bulk-log.89292/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/princedaddy-2023-log-here-we-go-again.87659/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-cycle-training-log.86383/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/dozers-journey-to-the-stage-and-cycle.84184/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/roidrage69-log.90127
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/first-time-tren-log.87653/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/25homes-revenge-transformation-log-2023.88570/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...n-season-sponsored-by-nordic-fusion-log.89817
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-anavar-rad140-cardarine-cycle-log.86174/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/contest-peak-cycle-this-year.85007/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/new-cycle.84662/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/summer-bulking-cycle.85543/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/lefr34ks-training-log.85141/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsys-training-log.83248/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/echos-hgh-log-and-cycle.85429/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-cycle-log.85538/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/

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[Mobster]

"I got a thyroid problem."

QUIT EATING THYROIDS - Chris Tucker

I'm that old we used to go on 'eyeballs' after chatting to girls (we was late teens) on CB radio. The number that would sound great but talk about being 'big boned'... damn!! We literally ran away more than once ha ha