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Approved Log Pre-Cycle Log - Recommendation/review on my (planned) micro dosing cycle.

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Good day all,

New member of this forum here and I want some suggestions and reviews on a micro dosing cycle I am planning to get on. I am writing some background on me and will try to be as detailed as possible.

I am a 32 year old male 5'6 inch at 106kgs (233lbs) - back in my 20s, I was competing in small gym level bodybuilding but more so in Kickboxing, jujitsu and MMA. My weight was around 75-82kg range and I was pretty good body and strength wise. My test levels at that time were around 600ng/dl natural and later I went on sustanon only cycles (250mg/ml) twice for 2 months each where my cycle was 500mg per week which was 2 injections of 1ml every 3rd day. My test levels shot up to 2000 and 1800 respectively and these cycles were 8 months apart, my PCT was Clomid 10mg for 3 weeks. I did see some good results, better performance in the gym, better gains, better strength, super good recovery from injuries, and more importantly better mentally (cool, calm, confident and calculated, rarely had any "roid rage").

I had some personal stuff happen to me back in mid and late 2010s and I hadn't been at a very good place mentally, had to walk away from almost everything but I got back to it in 2019 and I was feeling good about it, competing in jujitsu and lifting a good amount of weight, managing my demons - stuff was getting better. but then in 2020 when lockdowns hit, we were sadly closed for a long time and I took up bicycling and bodyweight exercises but all that cardio still wasn't enough for someone who was spending about 4 hours in the gym a day (between MMA and lifting), 5 days a week; when winters came (I live in Canada) it was hard for me to go out and workout and staying in for that long, I was already not in a good place mentally, lost my physique and strength, became a blob.

I did however get back to it in December of 2021 for about a month but then we went into a lockdown jail again till Feb of 2022 and then I started to get back to it again, I was already at 112kgs (247lbs) - I have been trying to get down and be better since and when I felt like I was gaining momentum, I got injured twice in 2023, knee the 1st time, still tried to keep it up and then I injured I back. Had to talk over 8 months off MMA and 5 months off lifting but I did what I could. Fast forward to today, I am weighing in at 106kgs and my blood work came back, all is normal but my test is 377ng/dl which I think is on the lower side and maybe the cause of me feeling lazy, brain fog and my strength is low and I am having a hard time losing fat.

With the help from this forum I was able to find that SYN pharma test is recommended as they have a reputation of selling good quality product - I ended up order 20ml from them and will be getting it soon (hopefully).

I am hoping to cut my fat down while improving my recovery and gaining strength and I want to be on a micro dosing cycle to kindda aid myself in it - I am thinking of injecting 0.5ml of cypionate (250mg/ml) every 4th day subcutaneously for a total of 16 weeks, which would be around 16ml of test overtime while taking animal cuts with it from the 2nd week (animal cuts cause that one product helped me lose fat a long time ago when I was 18-20 years old). Planning to do a PCT of Clomid or Nolvadex 10ml every 2nd day for 2 weeks. I am planning to take 2 packs of Animal cuts a day 1st would be 1 hour before kickboxing/jujitsu and 2nd will be 1 hour before lifting.
I want to know what your thoughts are on this, Is this something you think would be beneficial and what do you think I can achieve with it. Below is what my workout schedule roughly looks like.


At noon (during my lunch break):
Monday: kickboxing practice (sparring or drills)
Tuesday: Jujitsu practice (nothing intense)
Wednesday: kickboxing
Thursday: jujitsu practice
After work, around 5:15pm I get to the gym to lift, my current workout is below:

Monday, Arms:
Hammer curls (3x10-12)
EZ bar preacher curls (3x8-12)
EZ bar curls or dumbbell alt curls (3x10)
One arm cable curls (3x10-12)

Tricep Pushdowns (3x10-12)
Overhead cable tricep extensions (3x10-12)
One arm tricep cable pushdowns (3x8-10)
Overhead dumbbell one arm extensions or close grip bench (3x10)

Tuesday, Shoulders:
Dumbbell seated press (3x8-10)
Side lateral raises (3x10-12)
One arm side lateral cable raise (3x10)
Dual pully rear delt fly (3x12-15)
Machine rear delt fly (3x10-12)

Wednesday, Back:
Barbell bent over rows or Landmine rows (3x8-12)
Dumbbell rows or Meadow rows (3x8-10)
Seated cable rows (3x10)
Cable pulldowns (3x10)
One arm kneeling cable pulls (3x12)

Thursday, Off.

Friday, Legs:
Leg extensions (5x10-12)
Hack squats (3x8-10) I don't do regular squats cause of my knee and back injuries
Leg press (3x8-10)
Leg press calves raises (3x21)
Seated calves raises (3x21)
Lying leg curls (3x8-12)
Seated leg curls (3x10)

Saturday, Chest:
Flat Barbell press (3x8-12)
Incline Barbell press (3x10)
Decline barbell press (3x10) or slight incline dumbbell press (3x8-10)
Cable Fly (3x10-12)
Pec Dec Fly (3x10)

Sunday, Off.
 
i would get a log going. put up a picture so we can estimate your body fat. its important to get conditioned first before steroids
 
I’d recommend rethinking the cycle duration, considering TRT instead of cycling, re-evaluating PCT, tweaking your training volume, and focusing on consistency rather than aggressive changes.
 
Good day all,

New member of this forum here and I want some suggestions and reviews on a micro dosing cycle I am planning to get on. I am writing some background on me and will try to be as detailed as possible.

I am a 32 year old male 5'6 inch at 106kgs (233lbs) - back in my 20s, I was competing in small gym level bodybuilding but more so in Kickboxing, jujitsu and MMA. My weight was around 75-82kg range and I was pretty good body and strength wise. My test levels at that time were around 600ng/dl natural and later I went on sustanon only cycles (250mg/ml) twice for 2 months each where my cycle was 500mg per week which was 2 injections of 1ml every 3rd day. My test levels shot up to 2000 and 1800 respectively and these cycles were 8 months apart, my PCT was Clomid 10mg for 3 weeks. I did see some good results, better performance in the gym, better gains, better strength, super good recovery from injuries, and more importantly better mentally (cool, calm, confident and calculated, rarely had any "roid rage").

I had some personal stuff happen to me back in mid and late 2010s and I hadn't been at a very good place mentally, had to walk away from almost everything but I got back to it in 2019 and I was feeling good about it, competing in jujitsu and lifting a good amount of weight, managing my demons - stuff was getting better. but then in 2020 when lockdowns hit, we were sadly closed for a long time and I took up bicycling and bodyweight exercises but all that cardio still wasn't enough for someone who was spending about 4 hours in the gym a day (between MMA and lifting), 5 days a week; when winters came (I live in Canada) it was hard for me to go out and workout and staying in for that long, I was already not in a good place mentally, lost my physique and strength, became a blob.

I did however get back to it in December of 2021 for about a month but then we went into a lockdown jail again till Feb of 2022 and then I started to get back to it again, I was already at 112kgs (247lbs) - I have been trying to get down and be better since and when I felt like I was gaining momentum, I got injured twice in 2023, knee the 1st time, still tried to keep it up and then I injured I back. Had to talk over 8 months off MMA and 5 months off lifting but I did what I could. Fast forward to today, I am weighing in at 106kgs and my blood work came back, all is normal but my test is 377ng/dl which I think is on the lower side and maybe the cause of me feeling lazy, brain fog and my strength is low and I am having a hard time losing fat.

With the help from this forum I was able to find that SYN pharma test is recommended as they have a reputation of selling good quality product - I ended up order 20ml from them and will be getting it soon (hopefully).

I am hoping to cut my fat down while improving my recovery and gaining strength and I want to be on a micro dosing cycle to kindda aid myself in it - I am thinking of injecting 0.5ml of cypionate (250mg/ml) every 4th day subcutaneously for a total of 16 weeks, which would be around 16ml of test overtime while taking animal cuts with it from the 2nd week (animal cuts cause that one product helped me lose fat a long time ago when I was 18-20 years old). Planning to do a PCT of Clomid or Nolvadex 10ml every 2nd day for 2 weeks. I am planning to take 2 packs of Animal cuts a day 1st would be 1 hour before kickboxing/jujitsu and 2nd will be 1 hour before lifting.
I want to know what your thoughts are on this, Is this something you think would be beneficial and what do you think I can achieve with it. Below is what my workout schedule roughly looks like.


At noon (during my lunch break):
Monday: kickboxing practice (sparring or drills)
Tuesday: Jujitsu practice (nothing intense)
Wednesday: kickboxing
Thursday: jujitsu practice
After work, around 5:15pm I get to the gym to lift, my current workout is below:

Monday, Arms:
Hammer curls (3x10-12)
EZ bar preacher curls (3x8-12)
EZ bar curls or dumbbell alt curls (3x10)
One arm cable curls (3x10-12)

Tricep Pushdowns (3x10-12)
Overhead cable tricep extensions (3x10-12)
One arm tricep cable pushdowns (3x8-10)
Overhead dumbbell one arm extensions or close grip bench (3x10)

Tuesday, Shoulders:
Dumbbell seated press (3x8-10)
Side lateral raises (3x10-12)
One arm side lateral cable raise (3x10)
Dual pully rear delt fly (3x12-15)
Machine rear delt fly (3x10-12)

Wednesday, Back:
Barbell bent over rows or Landmine rows (3x8-12)
Dumbbell rows or Meadow rows (3x8-10)
Seated cable rows (3x10)
Cable pulldowns (3x10)
One arm kneeling cable pulls (3x12)

Thursday, Off.

Friday, Legs:
Leg extensions (5x10-12)
Hack squats (3x8-10) I don't do regular squats cause of my knee and back injuries
Leg press (3x8-10)
Leg press calves raises (3x21)
Seated calves raises (3x21)
Lying leg curls (3x8-12)
Seated leg curls (3x10)

Saturday, Chest:
Flat Barbell press (3x8-12)
Incline Barbell press (3x10)
Decline barbell press (3x10) or slight incline dumbbell press (3x8-10)
Cable Fly (3x10-12)
Pec Dec Fly (3x10)

Sunday, Off.
@zucchini welcome to the EVO family. :D I think your post is a real log if you ask me.

I just put in a request to upgrade you to a log.

To really help you, we need to make this a Cycle Planning Log.

Can you wait to start the cycle so we can plan more?

Meanwhile

Please share more day to day information with us.

Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger
cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

supplements
what digestive supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?

pictures
please share pictures of you face blurred
pics of your meals as you go
pics of your training as you go
pics of your supps
pics of your gear

eBooks
download our eBooks and learn more about cycling:
https://irongorillas.com

Podcast
are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/

thank you and share more :)
 
i would get a log going. put up a picture so we can estimate your body fat. its important to get conditioned first before steroids
Hello,

Oh I am gonna be a fatty in my current pictures haha. But let me take a few tonight and I will post them up.
I’d recommend rethinking the cycle duration, considering TRT instead of cycling, re-evaluating PCT, tweaking your training volume, and focusing on consistency rather than aggressive changes.
Hello,

I am not looking for aggressive changes, I have done it before in the past all natural and have been on light gear as mentioned in my first, I just want to get on a cycle to kickstart or to give me a boost!
I am super consistent with my workouts and try to be with my diet as well.
My Macro goals for the past few months have been 175g carbs 175g protein and 60g fat - Now I will confess that I an not always able to meet my protein goals and have cheated a bunch of times but about 60% of the time I am able to maximize my proteins and go maybe 140grams of carbs. I have already lost a bit more than 7kgs while gaining strength and healing my injuries to a certain point.
 
Oh I am gonna be a fatty in my current pictures haha. But let me take a few tonight and I will post them up.
EVo family is a no judgement zone, no matter how you look we support you. :D

I am not looking for aggressive changes, I have done it before in the past all natural and have been on light gear as mentioned in my first, I just want to get on a cycle to kickstart or to give me a boost!
I am super consistent with my workouts and try to be with my diet as well.
My Macro goals for the past few months have been 175g carbs 175g protein and 60g fat - Now I will confess that I an not always able to meet my protein goals and have cheated a bunch of times but about 60% of the time I am able to maximize my proteins and go maybe 140grams of carbs. I have already lost a bit more than 7kgs while gaining strength and healing my injuries to a certain point.
We should go slow but we need to dial in the diet training first before you pin self TRT imo
would be great to get full meals and foods please. @zucchini
 
@zucchini welcome to the EVO family. :D I think your post is a real log if you ask me.

I just put in a request to upgrade you to a log.

To really help you, we need to make this a Cycle Planning Log.

Can you wait to start the cycle so we can plan more?

Meanwhile

Please share more day to day information with us.

Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger
cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

supplements
what digestive supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?

pictures
please share pictures of you face blurred
pics of your meals as you go
pics of your training as you go
pics of your supps
pics of your gear

eBooks
download our eBooks and learn more about cycling:
https://irongorillas.com

Podcast
are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/

thank you and share more :)
Hi Lev, i am grateful to be here!
I do not mind it being a log as i am looking to get all the knowledge, suggestions and help i can get.

I just finished my shoulder workout today and idd it exactly as planned.

I didn't understand if you were asking for pictures of my weight that i lift or pictures of me while lifting? If you can clarify that i can start taking them from tomorrow, gotta say i dont have a tripod or anything thou so they might be wonky if they are of myself.
I can also just keep on logging my daily workout here (weights and mma) if thats something you prefer.

My diet is nothing fixed but i try keep it clean as much as i can, i am attaching pictures of how my diet is today so far and i have to say its definitely on the cleaner of days so far. Once home, i will consume about 300-500 grams of cottage cheese and maybe some baked potatoes... MAYBE.
I will take pictures of my food as well if you prefer them.

I dont have progress pictures of myself but did take a few back pictures (side) today and i am attaching them.
I will take more n post em here as soon as possible.

The only supplement i have been on is protein, was on hydrolyzed protein before and just got a bag of iso.
I would like to be on a few cheap digestive supps as i do feel bloated and heavy sometimes when waking up in the morning and it takes a few hours before i can go to the bathroom and actually feel not bloated. Would also like to be on some multi vits. (Any recommendations of the supps?)

Other than my MMA stuff there's really no more cardio in my routine.

My usual week day goes like this:

7:00am wake up
7:30am get ready for work
8:15am at work
9:00am - 11:15am finish my protein shake
12:00 pm jujitsu/kickboxing
1:00pm back to work
2:00pm to 2:30pm ish Finish my lunch if i brought any (like i did today)
5:00pm get off work head to gym
6:30 pm at home and relax and wind down till 8:00 pm ish.

8:30 cook and eat and pack for the next day.

10:30pm get ready for bed and try n sleep till 11:00. Which only happens if i am lucky or i jist stay in bed n cant sleep.
 

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Since this is now a log, I thought i should put this in.

Today's workout was fun, felt strong and was able to push constant weight:
*Warmup*
Dumbbell seated press (3x10 55lb dumbbells)
Side dumbbell lateral raises (2x12 1x10 25lb dumbbells)
One arm side lateral cable raise (1x8 25lbs 2x12 15lbs)
Dual pully rear delt fly (1x16 25lbs each side 2x12 30lbs each side)
Machine rear delt fly (3x10 140lbs)

Just had 400 grams of cottage cheese while i cooked.

Meal prep for tomorrow done, this is 2 scoops of protein powder in 500ml of that protein milk. That would be my sipping breakfast from 9am ish till 11am. This is before kickboxing.

After i get back i will chow up on that 250 grams boneless skinless chicken i pan fried in 2 tb extra virgin olive oil with half cup of those veggies.

Tomorrow is a back day and i will post my exact workout here tomorrow as well.

Once i am home, i will pound of 300 grams of cottage cheese and maybe 100gm of air fried potatoes.
 

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, that's okay. That you don't have the physique you want.
That's the whole point of starting this log, right?
 
It will be crucial to food prep.

This way, you can avoid the junky foods and eat healthier.
 
Definitely lay out your diet. We want to see it.
Diet is extremely crucial.
 
I mean, if you can post pictures of you training, that's very good. We'll be able to see if you're making any correctable mistakes.
 
That's good that you're doing kickboxing and getting in your cardio.

It's a fun way to do it, for sure.
 
So I didn't read all that. I did look to see if I could see any thought process behind micro-dosing. I've seen it here as a concept before.

But there is no point to it at all. None. I mean heck your MD'ing a long acting ester. One that's in your system 19+ days just on the half life. Literally designed to be pinned infrequently
 
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