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Primobolan and Estradiol levels

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This may interest some who like my self enjoy stacking primobolan with their test base either to enjoy the quality lean tissue gains or to use as a makeshift AI/REBA.

- Was pinning 800mg EW Test

- Started the primo at 200mg then went up to 400mg EW

After about 3 weeks on 400mg i began getting a really itchy scalp, noticing thinning hair spots, energy and libido both crushed, strength was rubbish ,gains were slowing and mentally felt fatigued and very apathetic.

With knowledge that estradiol Levels can be significantly lowered using primobolan i decided to lower the dosage and let the test bring my estrogen back up a bit.

Definitely felt alot better after a week or so - scalp no longer itching, energy levels back up, way better performance in the gym and modt importantly balls full and libido GTG.

I love primobolan as a compound (when it’s actually legit primo) but just a general warning to guys who are using DHT derivatives such as primo and masteron to ensure you have a good ratio with your test base and get bloods done to get your serum estradiol levels and test levels checked if you get the above symptoms.

BO
 
I definitely agree and also feel it Is on a case by case basis since everyone responds so differently with all of these compounds.

Me for example I ran 225mg test cyp and 400mg primo for 12 weeks and mg strength exploded compared to when I was just on trt.

My libido greatly improved and I had a killer cycle with no sides at all with excellent bloodwork.

Generally you see it run 1:1 or test 2:1 ratio with primo. I definitely agree I love primo and the lean tissue gains, vascularity was also good on it.
 
My libido got crushed on primo. But I’ve used other dht with no problems.
the truth is primo is different then other dhts. It’s a combo of factors. How you react to androgens and estrogen is also a factor
 
Nice information. I didn’t get those issues with primo personally
 
This may interest some who like my self enjoy stacking primobolan with their test base either to enjoy the quality lean tissue gains or to use as a makeshift AI/REBA.

- Was pinning 800mg EW Test

- Started the primo at 200mg then went up to 400mg EW

After about 3 weeks on 400mg i began getting a really itchy scalp, noticing thinning hair spots, energy and libido both crushed, strength was rubbish ,gains were slowing and mentally felt fatigued and very apathetic.

With knowledge that estradiol Levels can be significantly lowered using primobolan i decided to lower the dosage and let the test bring my estrogen back up a bit.

Definitely felt alot better after a week or so - scalp no longer itching, energy levels back up, way better performance in the gym and modt importantly balls full and libido GTG.

I love primobolan as a compound (when it’s actually legit primo) but just a general warning to guys who are using DHT derivatives such as primo and masteron to ensure you have a good ratio with your test base and get bloods done to get your serum estradiol levels and test levels checked if you get the above symptoms.

BO
@Blackout welcome welcome the evolutionary.org family is happy to see you here.

DHTs primobolan related can cause libido issues for sure but the first question is not in steroids for me, it's in your situation. Like knowing what you inject, aka steroids is NOT the same as knowing you as a person right? If you're drinking 2 gallons of soy milk per day (not saying you are lol) that would cause the issue you're talking about but we dont know do we right?
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https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/contest-peak-cycle-this-year.85007/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/new-cycle.84662/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/summer-bulking-cycle.85543/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/lefr34ks-training-log.85141/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pigsys-training-log.83248/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/echos-hgh-log-and-cycle.85429/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-cycle-log.85538/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-contest-prep-log.87619/

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bros you look like a beast in your picture that we can see
but would be nice to see more pictures can you do a log
 
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Help us help you by putting up a log Journal
this will be awesome and it will be fun to follow
 
it would be a really good idea to put up a log here
this way we can track your estrogen and see where things go
 
I'm really looking forward to this log
make sure you do testosterone and Primo
 
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