If you have seen my log you definitely would have a better understanding of the potential primo has, I don't need compounds that are going to kick the shit out of me, I want slow steady results and something that works when I lift and I don't feel it when I'm not in the gym, I've made shuch big strides on a mild test primo combo. I love the golden Era of body building so for ke using primo had always been on my radar, I run para pharma primo and test from ugfreak.to and it's been fantastic.