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Veteran Log PrinceDaddy 2024 Bodybuilding Log (Masters 55+ Competitor)

Got my blood work in from 12/06. From 09/01 it has been only Test Cyp 200mg Weekly. Nothing else.
Just ancillary supplements.

Pre-Blood work Keto Mojo
Glucose 79
Ketones 0.2
GKI 22.0
Not in Ketosis
Was water fasted for 15 hours
Weight has been anywhere from 196 dry to 204 full.

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LDL is slightly out of range. Maybe to do with diet. When on cycle and all bband clean foods seemed to be better.
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Estrogen is high. I don't feel it. Sensitive nipples or overly emotional. Regardless. I will add a AI in weekly after injection.
Blood seems thicker. Maybe diet related. AST and ALT are better than my previous showings. I still do work out just about every day.


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I will start logging daily in the new year. My diet is still a mix of bb foods and off season food. Work outs are good. My joints still feel pretty weak and are the limiting factor. Still pressing 225 on the upper body and squatting between 315 (Free) and 405 (Box). Not much else has changed since my last post.

Have a great day EVO peeps!
@PrinceDaddy happy to see you back with the EVO family :)

are you estrogen prone? because with 200mgs test cyp your estrogen way too high, you taking anything else now?

also this is the exact thing I was talking to @AE1079 about, guys on TRT with high estrogen and they dont even know it
 
Got my blood work in from 12/06. From 09/01 it has been only Test Cyp 200mg Weekly. Nothing else.
Just ancillary supplements.

Pre-Blood work Keto Mojo
Glucose 79
Ketones 0.2
GKI 22.0
Not in Ketosis
Was water fasted for 15 hours
Weight has been anywhere from 196 dry to 204 full.

View attachment 65692

LDL is slightly out of range. Maybe to do with diet. When on cycle and all bband clean foods seemed to be better.
View attachment 65693

Estrogen is high. I don't feel it. Sensitive nipples or overly emotional. Regardless. I will add a AI in weekly after injection.
Blood seems thicker. Maybe diet related. AST and ALT are better than my previous showings. I still do work out just about every day.


View attachment 65694

View attachment 65698
I will start logging daily in the new year. My diet is still a mix of bb foods and off season food. Work outs are good. My joints still feel pretty weak and are the limiting factor. Still pressing 225 on the upper body and squatting between 315 (Free) and 405 (Box). Not much else has changed since my last post.

Have a great day EVO peeps!
Good to hear from you! Thanks for the share. Looks like things are slowly normalizing. Blood volume pretty high. Does donating blood help clean up numbers any? Maybe cholesterol. You know that you gotta do. Smart that you watch bloods good job on that. Keep on keeping on! I know a job offer will turn up for you bro!🙏🏻💪🌸🎄
 
200mgs bloodwork looks standard. those numbers though i bet would come back to earth if you dropped your cruise dose to 125 or even 100.. also would donate blood for sure as well
 
Good to hear from you! Thanks for the share. Looks like things are slowly normalizing. Blood volume pretty high. Does donating blood help clean up numbers any? Maybe cholesterol. You know that you gotta do. Smart that you watch bloods good job on that. Keep on keeping on! I know a job offer will turn up for you bro!🙏🏻💪🌸🎄
@PrinceDaddy happy to see you back with the EVO family :)

are you estrogen prone? because with 200mgs test cyp your estrogen way too high, you taking anything else now?

also this is the exact thing I was talking to @AE1079 about, guys on TRT with high estrogen and they dont even know it
Your blood is thicker because you have fasted..
once you rehydrate your blood volume will reduce, this is well known. Don’t donate blood if you can bring this down simply by hydrating yourself.

I encourage you guys to think outside the box with stuff like this, blood dumping isn’t always a solution and I feel as a forum we should be giving better advise. Not to be negative by all means but it will be good to look at other options before you go to last resort 💪
 
Your blood is thicker because you have fasted..
once you rehydrate your blood volume will reduce, this is well known. Don’t donate blood if you can bring this down simply by hydrating yourself.

I encourage you guys to think outside the box with stuff like this, blood dumping isn’t always a solution and I feel as a forum we should be giving better advise. Not to be negative by all means but it will be good to look at other options before you go to last resort 💪
I dont think fasting increased his estrogen levels, doubtful. I think this is another example of guys on TRT walking around with high estrogen, I've seen it so many times @AE1079
over the years many times I see guys no results on TRT because they estrogen prone and high E2 already
 
I dont think fasting increased his estrogen levels, doubtful. I think this is another example of guys on TRT walking around with high estrogen, I've seen it so many times @AE1079
over the years many times I see guys no results on TRT because they estrogen prone and high E2 already
I was talking about the haematology observation in this case. But yeah generally you will see guys on TRT with higher than normal E2. I think leaner guys can get away with it. But people generally are completely unaware of it
 
over the years many times I see guys no results on TRT because they estrogen prone and high E2 already
Higher body fat often leads to lower test levels and higher aromatisation. So, when someone starts TRT, they aromatise more easily because of their higher body fat %. I'd say that self TRT is more of an issue, because through a clinic generally require bloodwork and they catch elevated E2 levels. Self TRT users assume a ‘low’ dose of testosterone is safe, but without proper monitoring, E2 can creep up and cause issues.
 
Higher body fat often leads to lower test levels and higher aromatisation. So, when someone starts TRT, they aromatise more easily because of their higher body fat %. I'd say that self TRT is more of an issue, because through a clinic generally require bloodwork and they catch elevated E2 levels. Self TRT users assume a ‘low’ dose of testosterone is safe, but without proper monitoring, E2 can creep up and cause issues.
Thats true higher bodyfat is higher estrogen and prolactin, but @PrinceDaddy in this example is very lean, he's a competitor. So thats not an issue as you can see.
 
I was talking about the haematology observation in this case. But yeah generally you will see guys on TRT with higher than normal E2. I think leaner guys can get away with it. But people generally are completely unaware of it
This is why ai use is important imo, high estrogen has real dangers. @AE1079
 
Thats true higher bodyfat is higher estrogen and prolactin, but @PrinceDaddy in this example is very lean, he's a competitor. So thats not an issue as you can see.
Yeah sorry I was meaning in general (as in it might be a reason you see it more often than you'd like where a person on TRT has higher E2 levels).
 
This is why ai use is important imo, high estrogen has real dangers. @AE1079
AI use is applicable in TRT use yes. Low doses to control and not too crash E2, yes. No argument there. But I would rather use as a last resort and based on individual circumstances, it’s not for everyone, it’s a tool to use when needed.
 
Got my blood work in from 12/06. From 09/01 it has been only Test Cyp 200mg Weekly. Nothing else.
Just ancillary supplements.

Pre-Blood work Keto Mojo
Glucose 79
Ketones 0.2
GKI 22.0
Not in Ketosis
Was water fasted for 15 hours
Weight has been anywhere from 196 dry to 204 full.

View attachment 65692

LDL is slightly out of range. Maybe to do with diet. When on cycle and all bband clean foods seemed to be better.
View attachment 65693

Estrogen is high. I don't feel it. Sensitive nipples or overly emotional. Regardless. I will add a AI in weekly after injection.
Blood seems thicker. Maybe diet related. AST and ALT are better than my previous showings. I still do work out just about every day.


View attachment 65694

View attachment 65698
I will start logging daily in the new year. My diet is still a mix of bb foods and off season food. Work outs are good. My joints still feel pretty weak and are the limiting factor. Still pressing 225 on the upper body and squatting between 315 (Free) and 405 (Box). Not much else has changed since my last post.

Have a great day EVO peeps!
Are you using any products for this?
 
AI use is applicable in TRT use yes. Low doses to control and not too crash E2, yes. No argument there. But I would rather use as a last resort and based on individual circumstances, it’s not for everyone, it’s a tool to use when needed.
This. Just yesterday I spoke to as gym member re his using 300mg weekly for TRT and recent blood tests
 
@PrinceDaddy happy to see you back with the EVO family :)

are you estrogen prone? because with 200mgs test cyp your estrogen way too high, you taking anything else now?

also this is the exact thing I was talking to @AE1079 about, guys on TRT with high estrogen and they dont even know it
I am a high estrogen conveyer. My doctor had me on Anastrozole. I have noticed when at my peak off season weight i convert more so. Also during my clean bulk I will see the same conversion on wet compounds. When on the contest cut cycle and dry compounds my estrogen crashes.
 
I think it's important to donate blood regardless.
People in the community Need it every day.
 
Yes, it's true. If you're not hydrated, it can throw off some numbers.

But at the end of the day, it's still important To take the number seriously.
 
Overall, your blood work isn't bad at all.
You're keeping things where they need to be.
 
It's important to make sure that you get your estrogen under control.

Even if you don't feel issues.
 
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