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Progesterone as a natural Anti-Estrogen/Hormonal Balancer?

Beastly

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Been reading quite a few articles lately regarding how progesterone is a natural antagonist of estrogen and can act as an anti-estrogen in the body as well as having a whole host of other beneficial effects such as having the same effect as viagara without the negative sides as it performs the same function as viagara does in the body...

Also stated how progesterone could actually help increase Test levels and some are thinking that progesterone deficiency is at the root of low T in men in many cases...

interesting read and info...think I am going to start using some progesterone cream in addition to TRT and aromasin...apparently is has virtually no negative effects and many positive ones, especially for those who have low levels, which is likely in people with low T...
 
Why? It counteracts the effects of estrogen and is a precursor to testosterone in men. It also can elevate T levels by itself and can prevent gyno.

It prevents estrogen dominance and as estrogen levels rise, progesterone levels plummet in males.

Did you know that progesterone reference levels in males and females are near identical other than near a woman's period/ pregnancy?

All the research I have done indicates there are zero sides to this and numerous benefits

https://www.bodylogicmd.com/hormones-for-men/progesterone
 
as men we need these hormones bro... you are absolutely correct.

ask anyone who takes letro and has low estrogen how they feel.. it's not pretty
 
take dim bro that's all natural supplement to support normal estro levels

I already use DIM, DIM only preferentially converts estrogen into "better" metabolites and speeds the processing of estrogen out of the body. Not even close to what progesterone in its entirety would do.
 
Theres an endless list of natural remedies but I really dont know how significant they are , would need bloods
 
I'd be interested in hearing from someone who has actually already done this

Rick, here is a post of someone who was on TRT for 5 years and swears by using progesterone along side it:

http://www.mindandmuscle.net/forum/42250-progesterone-missing-link

actually 3 or 4 guys chimed in that they love using it...

Here is another post from a guy who was tested after using progesterone and raised T levels significantly:

"Update from new test results:
For over a year now, I have been taking a regimen of 60 mg of topical progesterone a day, 100 mg of prognenolone tablets every other day, 25 mg of DHEA a week, and 1500 to 2000 mg of d-aspartic acid (increases LH) per day. All are over the counter. I also take 5000 IU of Vitamin D a day.

The results have been amazingly good. In August of 2013 my testosterone was up to 448 (estradiol not taken) and my LH was 3. Then last month, April of 2014, my testosterone had increased to 590 and my estradiol was way down to 10.5. My Sex hormone binding globulin was 52.3 (LH not taken). Vitamin D was 49 last August but was not tested this time.
I have come a long way.

In November of 2010 before I began my first hormone therapy my testosterone was 155, my estradiol was 46, my LH was 2.1, and in February of 2011 my sex hormone binding globulin was only 30 after ten weekly shots of testosterone. I had low Vitamin D for a long time even though I live in Memphis.

I had really low LH and that could have been a lot of my problem. For men who have that, here is the article showing d-aspartic acid boosts LH:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19860889
But I would not take d-aspartic acid long term without taking plenty of testosterone precursors (the three I take) to make sure you don’t deplete yourself of them. Several men I know are now trying my routine and I will continue to update as warranted."


http://chestsculpting.com/progesterone-for-men-the-missing-link-in-man-boob-reduction/

Apparently a little goes a long way, so I will use very sparingly to start...
 
Makes sense because masteron has all those qualities. And it's a progesterone or progesterone derived hormone if I'm not mistaken.


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Makes sense because masteron has all those qualities. And it's a progesterone or progesterone derived hormone if I'm not mistaken.


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Yes and Deca is a progesterone based steroid as well...

Progesterone Pro's(from what I read):

-Has a synergistic effect on Testosterone that enhances its muscle building effects, to the point some consider it a secondary male sex hormone

-Most potent known inhibitor of the 5-alpha-reductase enzyme(DHT) via its metabolite 17-0H-progesterone. By blocking this enzyme it promotes higher T levels in the body while reducing male pattern baldness and prostate enlargement issues. Used in the treatment of benign prostate hyperplasia (BPH) in men via a transscrotal delivery system.

-Antagonizes Estrogen via several mechanisms. It competes for the receptor with estrogen and regulates cell metabolism to promote the oxidative pathway preventing the conversion of the weaker Estrone into the stronger Estradiol.

-Increases the body's use of fat stores for energy

-Increases Libido

-Corrects ED via the same pathway as Viagara, enhancing NO production. A progesterone/testosterone cream was able to help correct the hormonal imbalance commonly found in men with erectile dysfunction

-Helps to normalize blood sugar levels

-Helps to normalize thyroid function

-Stimulates new bone formation

-Improves brain function and has anti-depressant properties

-Acts as a natural diuretic in opposition to estrogen's tendency to hold in water.

-Improves skin problems such as acne, rosacea, seborrhea and PSORIASIS

-Effective as a gyno treatment

-Diminishes muscle and joint aches and pains and has anti-inflammatory properties via activation of the p53 gene and increase in natural anti-inflammatory compounds IL-10 and TH-2 cytokines which suppress the pro inflammatory TH-1 cytokines. Also reduces the Natural Killer(NK) cells and other markers of inflammation in the body. Matrix Metalloproteinases (MMP) play a key role in inflammation--estrogen maintains secretion of these proteins while progesterone inhibits them. Reduces the expression of pro-inflammatory genes and their protein products.

-Prevents lipid peroxidation and confers vascular protection. It has an anti-atherogenic action by preventing the conversion of cholesterol into cholesteryl ester.

-Prevents vasoconstriction by increasing levels of nitric oxide (NO), which causes vasodilation allowing blood vessels to relax, and so widens them allowing more blood to flow through and it inhibits platelet aggregation.

-Helps with both depression and insomnia as it raises serotonin levels in the brain. Serotonin is our 'happy' neurotransmitter, it is also the precursor to melatonin (the 'sleep' hormone).

-Has a calming effect by activating the GABA receptor sites via its metabolite Allopreganolone. GABA is our most calming, inhibitory neurotransmitter and effective against some forms of epilepsy.

-Stimulates leptin secretion

-Acts indirectly to increase aldosterone by mechanisms similar to sodium restriction

-Promotes regeneration and myelination of axons

-Has a neuroprotective and antioxidant effect in injured nervous system

-Has multiple effects on glial cells

-The progesterone metabolite allopregnanolone reduces the brain's response to stress
 
having to much or to little isnt good either way. having the right balance of estrogen is key

Yes, that is true, but what most people don't understand is that even if you have estrogen in range, you can still have symptoms of estrogen dominance if you do not have the proper levels of progesterone to balance it. Low estrogen and low progestrone=Estrogen dominance.
 
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