Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below No worries man, good luck with your journey! Don’t get discouraged if it takes a little while to dial in. When I first started trt, even under doctor care I was around 9 months before being stable. Leaning on the guys in here, making small changes and getting regular bloods, you’ll be able to dial in much faster I’d say.
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I personally like that effect. Lower SHGB means there’s more free test floating around on your system to put to work. More gains, stronger libido.
Yeah according to Dr. James (Some YouTube guy) If you drop your SHGB too low, It could have some negative effect like low libido, cannot maintain your boner and irritable. Not sure how relevant is this guy, I'm just trying to learn about PED because I have very little knowledge.
But according to this video, ive my SHGB is low (getting low for me) I should not block my Estradiol E2.
But according to this video, ive my SHGB is low (getting low for me) I should not block my Estradiol E2.
Hes a Doctor in Dubai.. not sure if he really is or not but he seems to talk about gear well.
His videos have also gotten much better
Vigorous Steve is around also but I take it with a grain of salt.
Yeah he is not a real Doctor, haha it's just his name. But he have some good information I think.
As Pur Pharma Canada mention. Nolvadex would be the better AI to use in my Case. As it is gonna produce more SHGB from my liver.
I will order Nolvadex instead.
Really good video, I definitely didn’t know all of that and will keep it in mind. After a primo run mine is usually really low.
At what dose? And with what in mind?
Nolvadex is not an aromatase inhibitor, it’s a SERM. It will eliminate the risk of gyno by blocking the receptor in your breast tissue but you will still have high estrogen circulating in the blood. Just a heads up.
I will add some Sublingual Anavar (Pre-workout) when I will starting the Calories deficit to cut some weight for the summer to support the Energy in the Gym. planning to run 10mg pre workout daily for 12 weeks.
okay thanks I was wondering, I will also tune down Test Cyp / Primo dose, and will redo some bloodwork in 2-3 months to see where I'm at. E2 should go down.
Bloodwork is where you'll find allot of hidden truths about what's going on inside.
As written it might need explanation.
Here's my thoughts such as they are:
1. I've seen more than a few fairly recent posts discussing the use of a steroid as a preworkout. Considering the popularity of stim based PWO's I understand the logic. Thus: If a PWO is good then surely a steroid is better... I disagree. I'll address a few PED options (to be used sparingly if at all).
2. But you'll be on test / PEDs anyway. An oral PED as a PWO will give you a small (between 10-50mg if using a standard sized var pill) boost vs the amount of other forums of test (lets assume a TRT/Test Cyp for example). Let's say that TRT was 200mg a week (an average self TRT dose). That averages out at 28mg a day (it doesn't actually work like that but it's wayyyyy to complicated to work out an actual number lol)
3. What about the day/s you pin? Is there a boost then? What about the time? Or the time you train?
4. How quickly is it absorbed/digested etc? What about the actual design for it when it was created? That's orally (via the gut). If it was better sub-lingually that's what the pharma company would recommend. Sub-lingually might be (and probably is) LESS efficient. So, assuming ANY absorption you'd need to use more. It works thus (depends on the meds obvs) topical needs the most/highest dose, sub-lingual next, oral next and injectable the least to get an effective for 1-2 hour workout. And you'd still have the rest of the half life etc in your system.
5. One HUGE issue, which you touch upon, is being in a calorie deficit and then trying to have a kick ass workout. I've suggested elsewhere having a high percentage of your daily carbs around the workout. Stevesmi has (and we've both addressed it on podcasts) how little calories are used (circa 400-600 in an hours weight training) and how most bodybuilders would be better to train fasted (us lucky lifters can eat lol). I train in the morning after breakfast. Which is usually a bowl of cereal. My PWO is strong coffee.
6. On food. What you ate the night before if you train in the am will have an effect as will what you eat in the day if you train later. I've done (don't anymore) proper physical work and, providing I had a snack (100g oatmeal flapjack was the bollocks) between work (as well as a small black coffee) I was golden. F**ked when I got home though ha.
Now there ARE kinda hardcore options and I've used these but VERY, VERY rarely.
1. Ephedrine. Hell I still have a load of (probably old as fuck now) 5mg pills. But these are a stim and come with their own issues. I'd now only use them for a PR day. I use to use 5-15mg on leg days years ago. Never any other time
2. Cheque drops. Again day of a competition/max PR attempt.
3. Halotestin - MAYBE. Both Halo (at a high day dose) and Cheque drops (there was another I cant think of right now) should only be used for, VERY short periods of time. The potential risk vs reward with the above is high.
4. Might as well go balls out (this used to be done but was a crazy bad idea) and use adrenaline
I suspect 90% or more of those using an oral steroid as a preworkout are getting a mental boost rather than an actual boost - in other words a placebo. I've used Var solo and I've NEVER felt stronger within an hour of using it so why would I suddenly feel a boost using it as a preworkout. Still one of my fave orals.
There's also, in my case, how I use var. I use it for an increase in strength. Not as an energy boost when I'm cutting kcals. Heck, TBol might be a better option. Ditto GW. And both work well enough that you don't need to dose them just before.
Be sure to note the doses as part of an overall weekly intake even if you only train 3-4x a week and use something on those days. The human body can do a LOT of sub-maximal sh*t on little to no food. You can adapt.
One final thought on PWO stims and PEDS. The issue of using stims, then orals then whatever the fuck comes next is you've not got anywhere else to go short of sniffing coke etc. I've seen the younger users of stim talking about LIKING being wired to train. IF you still wanna try var and 'feel' it works use it ONLY when you absolutely gotta. Leg days is kinda obvious
If you look at my log you'll see what I know is a) a LOW volume sets and reps approach compared to most (and esp bodybuilders) and b) fkin heavy ass weights. The reality, rarely noted in my log, is it's fkin hard. I'll be muttering away trying to get my head space switched on and then do it. I can be, and often was back in the day, tired. But I'm only lifting even in an 8-12 rep sets for a max of 75-90 seconds. I do have the pleasure of longer rests between sets as a 'lifter' but my percentages of max a re a lot higher
Thanks for sharing your Experience. I only did Anavar 1 time and it was more than 10 years ago. Im coming back to PED with a different approach and want to try to use the minimal effective dose rather that the maximal tolerate dose. I came across that video about subL Anavar. According to this video, there some evidence that SubL have some benefit and could be much less harsh on the organs. I think imma give it a try too see how it feel. Alsp Anavar from Pur Pharma Canada come in Capsules, so its gonna be super ez to take it SubL. Don't need to crush it.
Pur winstrol is good.
And nolvadex from elitebody.ca.. I've used both.
Thanks.. joe
Cheers
I talk to my doctor today about my testosterone level and he said that my actually test could be > or = to 52 (>=1500 ng/dl). So my real test could be around 2000ng/dl or even higher. As some people said, I could be a high responder as I only run 150mg of test week for about 8 weeks, (+150 mg primo for about 3 weeks). So I lowered my test cyp to 100mg per week and increased my Primo to 200mg per week. Will do blood work in about 6-8 weeks. My testosterone level should decreased as Primo are not suppose to increased test level in blood. I keep you informed of my result.
Interesting and possible, but you realise food can be estrogenic? Example soy and overtraining is the same issue, think cortisol wbc.
I didn’t talk about E2 level here. Also I eat a carnivore diet. 90% of my diet are beef and eggs. No soy or junk food. Can this explain my very high test level with only 150 mg of test?
