Rhino Labs Fraud and Permanent Ban Community Discussion

[Liquid Gold Labs]

Hello brothers and sisters of EVO, we hope you are all going well and smashing your fitness goals!

We have been in consultation with the mods about the recent banning of "Rhino UGL".

Staff would like to hear what the community has to say about Rhino, as he would like to make a return to the Aussie approved section. It is up to you, members of the Australian EVO family, to make this decision.

As a trusted member of the EVO family, we have been offered the opportunity to post this thread. It was felt most appropriate that it would be best coming from a member of the Australian branch of the family. As such we have humbly accepted this task.

Down to the business of this post:

We would like to know your views regarding whether "Rhino UGL" should be allowed to return to the community or if his ban should remain in place.

 

[vialturn]

Rhino was a massive FRAUD, he was very shady, constantly attacking people with he's multiple accounts, and loggers using he's shit
He would make multiple accounts with all the same game, posting about other vendors being scammers to promote he's own shit,
One time he even told me , that he was armed which is a very strange thing to say, I called him out for he's bullshit, which he got my account banned, he lied about being Australian and selling domestic, when he's whole operation is international,
Everyone on Evo hates he's guts,
And even if he does post on here, it's just spam now , he wouldn't get any customers for the hole he dug for himself

 

[Liquid Gold Labs]

@Pigsy @B3rnie @Seventieschild @AE1079 @PopRox19 @Oracle911 @Smiley G
@TeeGee @MarshMonsta @mads @PopRox19 @Snayaz @Yuri @CypherOCE @codezz @Eveflorence
@Smidday @coolguy77711 @Dirt
@Tommo2398
@juddy

 

[Flak]

All seemed a bit weird to me.

His website looked a lot like a previous vendor primeozpharma who was operating from overseas and seemingly scammed/exit scammed a few people.

Haven’t dealt with them directly but the similarities were enough to put me off

 

[R&Dpharma]

the fact that he deceived the members of evo and the staff should be enough for this vendor to be perma banned

i don't like the way he constantly spoke down about other vendors a lot of who have been around longer than he has

big no from me

 

[B3rnie]

Once bitten twice shy as they say. Once that trust is broken it is very hard to gain it back. I got bad vibes from the start from the guy with his long winded posts that wreaked of chatgpt. Also how he implied that another vendor was selling compounds as something else by getting a fake account to dm me. I knew it was bullshit but someone not as well up to date with who is who in the scene might believe the lies. Got plenty of great vendors here and some up and comers on the way, we don't need scam artists in here tarnishing the reputations of others.

 

[Pigsy]

No from me

@I Need it @Bluebone @HatoriHanzo @FluffyBunny @FlexyMcFlexFace @King.odyssey @ODINLABS @Allupfromhere
@FattyAU @Trenhead3cc @Grumpy @Heavygripper

 

[AE1079]

i have gone back and forth with Rhino - firstly with the price increases he tried to justify when no vendors were doing the same, trying to take advantage of people and sway the market.

He secondly lied and deceived everyone by saying, that his vials were from “Beligas” and “Ultima” when they were simply manufactured in china with the sticker. He refused testing and used the online Beligas testing “in house” to justify his products.

He slandered all the vendors to try and one notch himself a bit. This is why is was at him and continued to give him flak because eventually this would all come out. He was not genuine and wreaked of chat GPT.

I can say so many things about this, but he does not deserve to be back here, especially now that he has slandered the whole of evo on his new forum.

 

[I Need it]

Nope I think that's unacceptable to run down other labs.

 

[R&Dpharma]

so far no rhino loggers have stepped forward, were they all alts?

 

[Mobster]

Just on the in-house testing thing - more of a helpful guideline / prompt

In house is the easiest to 'fix'. ALL of the bigger better US/UK and EU based sources should and usually do have
1) In house first. If only to see that production aren't being lazy and cutting corners.
2) Second party / Independent outside labs. You'll often see the same labs used as they are well known and recognized by all
3) Third party (actual customers using their own cash) buying and sending off product. Used to be costly but now isn't.

All testing should be for a) product (does it have what it says) b) close to the claimed mg claimed and 3) bacterial / cleanliness / purity / contaminants (up to, if poss, heavy metal in the common Chinese sourced raws).

ANY decent source should welcome outside testing to PROVE they're solid and good to go. If you're 100% what have you to worry about? Of course there MIGHT be some variation. But, to date, all of the main forum approved sources have been with 2-3% of where they should be (better than the allowance by big Pharma). When they haven't (it's been a while) they've been retested and if they failed they're gone asap. It's been a while but one source was GTG for years and then fell off big time. Here one Friday and gone never to be mentioned again the following Monday.

 

[Bluebone]

No from me

@I Need it @Bluebone @HatoriHanzo @FluffyBunny @FlexyMcFlexFace @King.odyssey @ODINLABS @Allupfromhere
@FattyAU @Trenhead3cc @Grumpy @Heavygripper

That would also be a no from me.

Some extremely suspect behaviour was going down. Especially trying to trash other vendors.

I always thought some of his loggers stats sounded made up as well. Like their photos, weight and height didn’t match up. So was interesting to see some of his loggers turned out to be fake.

Can’t have lying, alts, fake loggers when evo is trying to maintain a trustworthy community.

My 2c

 

[Seventieschild]

Rhino is banned,gone,not to return imo,leave it at that and let's get back to basics for our vendors, business,sales,logs and good ethics.leave the shit behind and be done with it.

 

[Snayaz]

Just fuck him off. As a source once trust is broken and become shady that source will always have his name tainted.

Don’t bother and keep him banned.

 

[Trenhead3cc]

I share the common views of those above.
Evo will be better off without him. Good riddance

 

[CypherOCE]

He lied from the beginning and had ample chances to improve his behaviour. He didn’t, he still acts like a clown as evidenced by the slander he gives to other reputable vendors on EVO.

He’s banned and should stay banned.

He’s faked loggers, initiated international shipping was “safer” which we all know is total BS. Slander vendors, multiple fake accounts, faked loggers, refused HPLC testing… the list goes on.

I’m fairly certain he’s not even from Australia and probably fakes the gear and uses Chinese crap boxed up to look like Beligas and ultima.

If he’s allowed back that would be a slap I the face.

Notice how none of the “loggers” have come forward in support of him? Hmmmm.

Should stay banned and cop an IP / MAC address ban also. We can’t allow him to ever return.

 

[Eveflorence]

I had a few back and forths with him and his inability to answer relatively straight forward questions was not only frustrating but, like you've all said, lead me to believe he was lying about his whole operation.

To claim he was importing legitimate Beligas, boxed and everything mind you, into the toughest customs in the world was a flat lie and he used this to prey on the naive and gain a competitive edge.

He tried to manipulate the Aussie market here and spoke negatively of a number of reputable vendors, as well as any member who challenged him.

I see no reason why he should be allowed back.

 

[Grumpy]

Honesty don't think there would be any point
Agree with the general consensus above no

 

[coolguy77711]

Don't know about everyone else but trying to offer Credit card as a payment method seems extremely suspicious.
On top of what most people said.
Hopefully the gear was all legit for the lads who brought it.
Honestly he wasn't located domestic anyway and his own ugl gear has some questionable ratios and blends

 

[Snayaz]

fake loggers
Fake testing
Fake cunt


Not a trusted source nor should he be allowed to operate on here.