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“Roid Rage” Vision's write up, plus an article by 📰📺"The Associated Press"📺📰 at the end


The "Myth" of Roid rage!
The unvarnished truth
(for beginners and educational value ONLY)


One of the most shrouded topics in most online body-building communities is the subject of roid rage, and does it really exist?

Today let's discuss anecdotal reports vs a study that's recognized by the endocrine society.
Whenever an individual decides to openly share his/her AAS usage there will be a stigma that may follow and unfortunately they might be subjected to accusations of mishandling their emotions,
these accusations can even occur when one is merely under speculation of usage with/without concrete evidence to support it.

Due to media and other false reports from nonsupporting outlets that seem to wage-war against the bodybuilding community and the use of PED's in sports, over exaggerated claims in blatantdisregards, and at times fueled with lies have been known to circulate, as the populace has no real understanding what the truth is, stories sell and that's the truth..


However, Co-workers, spouses, GF/wives have made anecdotal reports of actual encounters with their significant other in what appears to be a steroid induced rage, and at times being attached to a violent domesticated crime..

PED users don't have a leg to stand on, or do they?


The whole theory has been flawed as recent studies suggest, in fact most violent domesticated crimes have more of a correlation with underlining mental-health issues and/or drug/alcohol usage..

In a study of over 10,000 Swedish males, Lundholm et al found that men who had been convicted of a violent crime were much more likely to report having used anabolic steroids
(although the rates were still low in absolute terms: 2.7%, vs. 0.6% in men not convicted.)
However, they say, “this association was substantially attenuated and lost statistical significance after adjusting for other lifetime substance abuse.”
In other words, men who’ve used steroids are not more likely to be convicted of violence after accounting for other drug use.

You're not off the hook yet, so decelerate my dude and read on!

Aside from outside influences such as drug/alcohol usages, what other aliments could contribute to some of these overzealous,
preconceived notions that our society has branded PED user with?
How about and ill mental health/cognitive thought process or simply just instability in ones normal day to day life..
Many people go undiagnosed their entire life with a mental health issue that may be a hereditary genetic predisposition, or even simply in denial due to a matter of "ones pride".
This is a cocktail for a disaster when it pertains to AAS and other PED usages.

We can slice and dice specific compounds/AAS that are more pronounced to attribute to a feeling of uneasiness/irritability with added aggression (often at times it's desired by users for the added advantage during sports/weight training, this is dose/compound dependent, i.e Trenbolone, Halotestin, TNE etc etc)..
But, the unvarnished truth no singular AAS will influence one to react or respond with "uncontrollable" behavior where one was unable to contain themselves...


If you do it, you own it!
asshole.jpg


RAGE; Everything in life that had consequences due to an outburst where we have to deal with the ramifications of our actions were made by a clear conscience decision,
there can/may be an outside influence whether socially or mentally or even alcohol in which may slightly dictates ones emotions and feelings in particular circumstances and situations.
However, nothing with a clear sober mind make one completely and utterly out of control where there was no reasoning when it concerns AAS use/cause and effects..

asshole1.png


Now for the study that finally supports the PED users suggesting that Androgen use eccentially comes with no inward/outward anger,
anger arousal and hostile outlook and anger eliciting situations..

The effects of supraphysiological doses of testosterone on angry behavior in healthy eugonadal men--a clinical research center study.


Abstract

Anecdotal reports of "roid rage" and violent crimes by androgenic steroid users have brought attention to the relationship between anabolic steroid use and angry outbursts.
However, testosterone effects on human aggression remain controversial. Previous studies have been criticized because of the low androgen doses,
lack of placebo control or blinding, and inclusion of competitive athletes and those with preexisting psychopathology.
To overcome these pitfalls, we used a double-blind, placebo-controlled design, excluded competitive athletes and those with psychiatric disorders,
and used 600 mg testosterone enanthate (TE)/week. Forty-three eugonadal men, 19-40 yr, were randomized to 1 of 4 groups:
Group I, placebo, no exercise; Group II, TE, no exercise; Group III, placebo, exercise; Group IV, TE plus exercise. Exercise consisted of thrice weekly strength training sessions.
The Multi-Dimensional Anger Inventory (MAI), which includes 5 different dimensions of anger (inward anger, outward anger, anger arousal, hostile outlook,
and anger eliciting situations), and a Mood Inventory (MI), which includes items related to mood and behavior,
were administered to subjects before, during, and after the 10 week intervention.
The subject's significant other (spouse, live-in partner, or parent) also answered the same questions about the subject's mood and behavior (Observer Mood Inventory, OMI).
No differences were observed between exercising and nonexercising and between placebo and TE treated subjects for any of the 5 subdomains of MAI.
Overall there were no significant changes in MI or OMI during the treatment period in any group.

CONCLUSION:

Supraphysiological doses of testosterone, when administered to normal men in a controlled setting,
do not increase angry behavior. These data do not exclude the possibility that still higher doses of multiple steroids
might provoke angry behavior in men with preexisting psychopathology.

Take home notes:
There's many factors to examine here.. Let's consider the age & genetics/mental health,
the cycle length and the Compound/compounds used and quantity/dosage..These are just a few examples to review!

Beyond anything else here: It's fair enough to generalize that "roid rage" is in fact a myth,
and that we have a moral obligation in society "a set of rules" the do's and don'ts in life.

However this becomes dependent on the individual and how much they diligently their values and responsibility in life..
There may not be a definitive answer bit I firmly believe if you're and asshole - gearz will make you an even bigger asshole,
but ultimately at the end of the day one should take great measures to assure no real ramifications or issues that may follow for irresponsibility,
and if they feel they are immune to the laws and principles in life and anything that may transpire than I'm not sympathetic..

If one is boundless with their action to take the plunge and use AAS, than they should expected a course of action to follow suit there after,
whether it's mentally or physically, you do it, than you own it!
Written by Team PSL -
Vision
_________________
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Steroids Don't Cause Roid Rage

BOSTON - Body builders already believe it, and science has finally proved it: Steroids make big muscles. But researchers found no evidence that steroids make users prone to outbursts of anger known as "'roid rage." The carefully controlled study showed convincingly for the first time that a few weeks of male sex hormone injections substantially beef up arms and legs and increase strength.

Men who exercised and took steroids for 10 weeks put on an average of 13 pounds of virtually pure muscle and could bench press an extra 48 pounds. In addition, psychological tests and questioning of the men's spouses found no evidence that steroids made them angrier or more aggressive.

Steroids are widely thought to cause extreme mood swings, and people charged with violent crimes have pleaded roid rage as a defense. But among steroid users who are mentally healthy, "testosterone doesn't turn men into beasts," said Dr. Shalender Bhasin of Charles R. Drew University in Los Angeles. Bhasin left open the possibility that in people who are mentally unbalanced to begin with, steroids can make them worse.

Bhasin and his colleagues said their results in no way legitimize steroid use by athletes. But they do suggest steroids might be a good way to help AIDS patients and others whose muscles waste away because of disease.

Possession and distribution of steroids without a prescription is a federal crime, punishable by up to a year in prison and a fine of at least $1,000. Doctors have warned that the potential side effects include sterility, testicular shrinkage, acne, abnormal liver function, baldness, high blood pressure and heart disease. In 1991, former football star Lyle Alzado publicly blamed steroid use for his inoperable brain cancer.

Despite the seemingly obvious evidence of weightlifters' bulging pecs, some doctors have doubted whether steroids really work. They argue that exercise, not injections, explains their muscles. "Intense debate on this issue has been raging for 30 or 40 years," Bhasin said. Earlier studies were flawed, in part because researchers gave only small amounts of steroids and failed to control the volunteers' exercise or diets.

To help settle the question, Bhasin and colleagues recruited 43 male volunteers and put them on a standard diet. They randomly assigned them to get either dummy shots or moderately high injections of testosterone enanthate, one of several anabolic steroids used by athletes.

Throughout the study, no one knew who was getting the real steroid shots. In both groups, half the men were either put on a weightlifting program or asked not to work out. The results, published in Thursday's issue of the New England Journal of Medicine, were clear and dramatic.

Those who took steroids but did nothing else improved their muscles and strength about as much or more than did those who exercised but got dummy shots. By far the most impressive change was seen in men who both exercised and got steroids. By the end of the experiment, men who got steroids but didn't exercise could bench press an extra 20 pounds, about the same as those who worked out but didn't get steroids. However, those who both took steroids and exercised could bench press an additional 48 pounds, a 23% increase.
Those who got steroid shots but did not exercise gained seven pounds of fat-free mass, which is mostly muscle, compared with an extra four pounds in those who exercised without steroids. Men who both exercised and got steroids put on 13 pounds.

The researchers saw similar differences in the size of the men's thigh and forearm muscles and in their ability to lift in squatting exercises. "The major implication is not to rationalize the abuse of steroids by athletes," Bhasin said. "It provides a rationale for testing the idea that short-term, cautious use of testosterone may prevent muscle wasting in cancer, HIV, obstructive lung disease and other chronic illnesses."

In the study, the men took weekly injections of 600-milligram doses for 10 weeks. This gave them about six to eight times more testosterone than their bodies produced naturally. Dr. C. Wayne Bardin of the National Institute of Child Health and Human Development said the study also holds good news for athletes who don't resort to steroids. "It shows what a powerful stimulant to muscle growth exercise is," he said. "It ought to reassure athletes that if they exercise and train properly, they will get big muscles."


By The Associated Press
 
One of the HUGE (insert anger emoji lol) red flag issues was media reporting of court cases. Now it's not great shakes to dispute that we'd want good legal support if we do some stupid shit. Ergo that a defense team tries to excuse our stupidity by trying to suggest it was 'roid rage't that's ok. The trouble is (and of course under reported) was it has NEVER EVER stood up. There is, to the best of my knowledge, NOTHING in scientific literature beyond that it's been studied, to prove it exists.

We've all got gym buddies who deffo feel more horny on. But, again to date, none have then gone on to commit heinous crimes as far as I know.

Heck, as per a podcast Stevesmi and I did today, there WAS a study which looked at the testosterone levels of violent and aggressive prison inmates and it found their levels were actually a little below the norm. I'd go so far as to say that the reason that we MIGHT get antsy 'on' has less to do with the HIGHER test but the out of true test/estrogen ratios.

As we've also discussed (we're doing another on this soon) the reason why you can 'feel' some (see Visions examples above) forms is NOT test level connected but 'forcing' anabolism etc. Your body doesn't like it.
 
I think "roid rage" is possible with guys loosing their cool easily. I see guys on trenbolone fly off the handle easily, thats a fact. Besides trenbolone, I found only superdrol and tbol to have effect on anger mainly.
Testosterone only or primobolan only dont have much of an issue.
 
i will say using trenbolone changed a lot of myself mentally especially due to the androgenic nature of it. it was a 100% relationship killer for me every time !
 
I'm not sure I believe in the whole roid rage thing
there are a lot of Cycles out there that I encounter on the roads all the time and I bet most of them aren't even on steroids
 
this is a great thread vision
you back up your post with facts I like that
 
I wouldn't really call it rage, there are times I noticed when the cycle kicked in and peaked I had a much shorter fuse with irritation or getting upset internally, typically only latest a few short weeks feeling like that and then I'd go back to feeling normal and happy.

Now none of those times made me fly off the handle and hurt someone or myself, if anything when I go on cycle I try even harder to remain relaxed and not be a jerk to people in my everyday life.

Overall I've never physically or verbally hurt anyone while on a cycle as some say will happen if you use peds, I'm just mindful of what I run and how much of it I run, overall I have never become unhinged and lost my temper I always can keep myself in check and contained and everything under control.
 
I think steroids are just a fun topic for the media
they have such a bad boy image about them that they're fun to talk about
 
I've never struck my wife and 25 years on steroids
I'm proud of that
 
Good info right here!
 
One of the HUGE (insert anger emoji lol) red flag issues was media reporting of court cases. Now it's not great shakes to dispute that we'd want good legal support if we do some stupid shit. Ergo that a defense team tries to excuse our stupidity by trying to suggest it was 'roid rage't that's ok. The trouble is (and of course under reported) was it has NEVER EVER stood up. There is, to the best of my knowledge, NOTHING in scientific literature beyond that it's been studied, to prove it exists.

We've all got gym buddies who deffo feel more horny on. But, again to date, none have then gone on to commit heinous crimes as far as I know.

Heck, as per a podcast Stevesmi and I did today, there WAS a study which looked at the testosterone levels of violent and aggressive prison inmates and it found their levels were actually a little below the norm. I'd go so far as to say that the reason that we MIGHT get antsy 'on' has less to do with the HIGHER test but the out of true test/estrogen ratios.

As we've also discussed (we're doing another on this soon) the reason why you can 'feel' some (see Visions examples above) forms is NOT test level connected but 'forcing' anabolism etc. Your body doesn't like it.
May I join that pod cast?? :p:p:p:p:p
 
“Roid Rage” Vision's write up, plus an article by 📰📺"The Associated Press"📺📰 at the end


The "Myth" of Roid rage!
The unvarnished truth
(for beginners and educational value ONLY)


One of the most shrouded topics in most online body-building communities is the subject of roid rage, and does it really exist?

Today let's discuss anecdotal reports vs a study that's recognized by the endocrine society.
Whenever an individual decides to openly share his/her AAS usage there will be a stigma that may follow and unfortunately they might be subjected to accusations of mishandling their emotions,
these accusations can even occur when one is merely under speculation of usage with/without concrete evidence to support it.

Due to media and other false reports from nonsupporting outlets that seem to wage-war against the bodybuilding community and the use of PED's in sports, over exaggerated claims in blatantdisregards, and at times fueled with lies have been known to circulate, as the populace has no real understanding what the truth is, stories sell and that's the truth..


However, Co-workers, spouses, GF/wives have made anecdotal reports of actual encounters with their significant other in what appears to be a steroid induced rage, and at times being attached to a violent domesticated crime..

PED users don't have a leg to stand on, or do they?


The whole theory has been flawed as recent studies suggest, in fact most violent domesticated crimes have more of a correlation with underlining mental-health issues and/or drug/alcohol usage..

In a study of over 10,000 Swedish males, Lundholm et al found that men who had been convicted of a violent crime were much more likely to report having used anabolic steroids
(although the rates were still low in absolute terms: 2.7%, vs. 0.6% in men not convicted.)
However, they say, “this association was substantially attenuated and lost statistical significance after adjusting for other lifetime substance abuse.”
In other words, men who’ve used steroids are not more likely to be convicted of violence after accounting for other drug use.

You're not off the hook yet, so decelerate my dude and read on!

Aside from outside influences such as drug/alcohol usages, what other aliments could contribute to some of these overzealous,
preconceived notions that our society has branded PED user with?
How about and ill mental health/cognitive thought process or simply just instability in ones normal day to day life..
Many people go undiagnosed their entire life with a mental health issue that may be a hereditary genetic predisposition, or even simply in denial due to a matter of "ones pride".
This is a cocktail for a disaster when it pertains to AAS and other PED usages.

We can slice and dice specific compounds/AAS that are more pronounced to attribute to a feeling of uneasiness/irritability with added aggression (often at times it's desired by users for the added advantage during sports/weight training, this is dose/compound dependent, i.e Trenbolone, Halotestin, TNE etc etc)..
But, the unvarnished truth no singular AAS will influence one to react or respond with "uncontrollable" behavior where one was unable to contain themselves...


If you do it, you own it!
asshole.jpg


RAGE; Everything in life that had consequences due to an outburst where we have to deal with the ramifications of our actions were made by a clear conscience decision,
there can/may be an outside influence whether socially or mentally or even alcohol in which may slightly dictates ones emotions and feelings in particular circumstances and situations.
However, nothing with a clear sober mind make one completely and utterly out of control where there was no reasoning when it concerns AAS use/cause and effects..

asshole1.png


Now for the study that finally supports the PED users suggesting that Androgen use eccentially comes with no inward/outward anger,
anger arousal and hostile outlook and anger eliciting situations..

The effects of supraphysiological doses of testosterone on angry behavior in healthy eugonadal men--a clinical research center study.


Abstract

Anecdotal reports of "roid rage" and violent crimes by androgenic steroid users have brought attention to the relationship between anabolic steroid use and angry outbursts.
However, testosterone effects on human aggression remain controversial. Previous studies have been criticized because of the low androgen doses,
lack of placebo control or blinding, and inclusion of competitive athletes and those with preexisting psychopathology.
To overcome these pitfalls, we used a double-blind, placebo-controlled design, excluded competitive athletes and those with psychiatric disorders,
and used 600 mg testosterone enanthate (TE)/week. Forty-three eugonadal men, 19-40 yr, were randomized to 1 of 4 groups:
Group I, placebo, no exercise; Group II, TE, no exercise; Group III, placebo, exercise; Group IV, TE plus exercise. Exercise consisted of thrice weekly strength training sessions.
The Multi-Dimensional Anger Inventory (MAI), which includes 5 different dimensions of anger (inward anger, outward anger, anger arousal, hostile outlook,
and anger eliciting situations), and a Mood Inventory (MI), which includes items related to mood and behavior,
were administered to subjects before, during, and after the 10 week intervention.
The subject's significant other (spouse, live-in partner, or parent) also answered the same questions about the subject's mood and behavior (Observer Mood Inventory, OMI).
No differences were observed between exercising and nonexercising and between placebo and TE treated subjects for any of the 5 subdomains of MAI.
Overall there were no significant changes in MI or OMI during the treatment period in any group.

CONCLUSION:

Supraphysiological doses of testosterone, when administered to normal men in a controlled setting,
do not increase angry behavior. These data do not exclude the possibility that still higher doses of multiple steroids
might provoke angry behavior in men with preexisting psychopathology.

Take home notes:
There's many factors to examine here.. Let's consider the age & genetics/mental health,
the cycle length and the Compound/compounds used and quantity/dosage..These are just a few examples to review!

Beyond anything else here: It's fair enough to generalize that "roid rage" is in fact a myth,
and that we have a moral obligation in society "a set of rules" the do's and don'ts in life.

However this becomes dependent on the individual and how much they diligently their values and responsibility in life..
There may not be a definitive answer bit I firmly believe if you're and asshole - gearz will make you an even bigger asshole,
but ultimately at the end of the day one should take great measures to assure no real ramifications or issues that may follow for irresponsibility,
and if they feel they are immune to the laws and principles in life and anything that may transpire than I'm not sympathetic..

If one is boundless with their action to take the plunge and use AAS, than they should expected a course of action to follow suit there after,
whether it's mentally or physically, you do it, than you own it!
Written by Team PSL -
Vision
_________________
~ More data by the press ~
2560px-Associated_Press_logo.svg.png
[/CENTER]
Steroids Don't Cause Roid Rage

BOSTON - Body builders already believe it, and science has finally proved it: Steroids make big muscles. But researchers found no evidence that steroids make users prone to outbursts of anger known as "'roid rage." The carefully controlled study showed convincingly for the first time that a few weeks of male sex hormone injections substantially beef up arms and legs and increase strength.

Men who exercised and took steroids for 10 weeks put on an average of 13 pounds of virtually pure muscle and could bench press an extra 48 pounds. In addition, psychological tests and questioning of the men's spouses found no evidence that steroids made them angrier or more aggressive.

Steroids are widely thought to cause extreme mood swings, and people charged with violent crimes have pleaded roid rage as a defense. But among steroid users who are mentally healthy, "testosterone doesn't turn men into beasts," said Dr. Shalender Bhasin of Charles R. Drew University in Los Angeles. Bhasin left open the possibility that in people who are mentally unbalanced to begin with, steroids can make them worse.

Bhasin and his colleagues said their results in no way legitimize steroid use by athletes. But they do suggest steroids might be a good way to help AIDS patients and others whose muscles waste away because of disease.

Possession and distribution of steroids without a prescription is a federal crime, punishable by up to a year in prison and a fine of at least $1,000. Doctors have warned that the potential side effects include sterility, testicular shrinkage, acne, abnormal liver function, baldness, high blood pressure and heart disease. In 1991, former football star Lyle Alzado publicly blamed steroid use for his inoperable brain cancer.

Despite the seemingly obvious evidence of weightlifters' bulging pecs, some doctors have doubted whether steroids really work. They argue that exercise, not injections, explains their muscles. "Intense debate on this issue has been raging for 30 or 40 years," Bhasin said. Earlier studies were flawed, in part because researchers gave only small amounts of steroids and failed to control the volunteers' exercise or diets.

To help settle the question, Bhasin and colleagues recruited 43 male volunteers and put them on a standard diet. They randomly assigned them to get either dummy shots or moderately high injections of testosterone enanthate, one of several anabolic steroids used by athletes.

Throughout the study, no one knew who was getting the real steroid shots. In both groups, half the men were either put on a weightlifting program or asked not to work out. The results, published in Thursday's issue of the New England Journal of Medicine, were clear and dramatic.

Those who took steroids but did nothing else improved their muscles and strength about as much or more than did those who exercised but got dummy shots. By far the most impressive change was seen in men who both exercised and got steroids. By the end of the experiment, men who got steroids but didn't exercise could bench press an extra 20 pounds, about the same as those who worked out but didn't get steroids. However, those who both took steroids and exercised could bench press an additional 48 pounds, a 23% increase.
Those who got steroid shots but did not exercise gained seven pounds of fat-free mass, which is mostly muscle, compared with an extra four pounds in those who exercised without steroids. Men who both exercised and got steroids put on 13 pounds.

The researchers saw similar differences in the size of the men's thigh and forearm muscles and in their ability to lift in squatting exercises. "The major implication is not to rationalize the abuse of steroids by athletes," Bhasin said. "It provides a rationale for testing the idea that short-term, cautious use of testosterone may prevent muscle wasting in cancer, HIV, obstructive lung disease and other chronic illnesses."

In the study, the men took weekly injections of 600-milligram doses for 10 weeks. This gave them about six to eight times more testosterone than their bodies produced naturally. Dr. C. Wayne Bardin of the National Institute of Child Health and Human Development said the study also holds good news for athletes who don't resort to steroids. "It shows what a powerful stimulant to muscle growth exercise is," he said. "It ought to reassure athletes that if they exercise and train properly, they will get big muscles."


By The Associated Press
@~Vision~ Good topic to be discussed......nice article......
 
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