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Veteran Log RoidRage69 Log

This is one of my favorite logs, great results.
 
Keep up the good work Roid Rage. You are my hero.
 
9/15/23

Weight Upon Rising 274.1
Weight after workout 273.1

Chest/Tris/Delts #2
Hammer Decline
320x15x2
Chest Press Hoist Roc-it
190x18x2
Tricep Cable Pushdowns
110x9
100x10 Dropset 70x8, 50x10
Tricep DB Kickback
35x15
35x12
Lateral Raise Machine
130x15x3
Ab Machine
160x15
165x15x2
9 min Stariclimber
25 min treadmill

17.5 Hour Fasting
8 Hour Eating Window

Meal 1) 1 can Progresso Green Split Pee Soup, 20 grams collagen, 4000mg Omega3, Vits, magnesium, probiotic, prebiotic, digestives, B6, B12
Meal 2) 1/2 cup Granola, 1/2 cup Keto Crunch, 1 cup 1% lactose free milk, Fairlife Prontein Drink, 1 banana, digestives, magnesium, aspirin, zinc, NAC, artichoke, dandelion
Meal 3) Thai Coconut Curry Chicken with broccoli, mushrooms, onion, and green beans; 1 cup Long Grain Rice/Wild Rice Mix, digestives, magnesium, Saw Palmetto
Meal 4) 6oz Can Sockeye Salmon, 1 cup Catalina Crunch, 1 cup Milk, 3 small bites of cake, digestives, magnesium, 3000mg Omega3, NAC, artichoke extract, Saw Palmetto, Dandelion
 
9/15/23

Weight Upon Rising 274.1
Weight after workout 273.1

Chest/Tris/Delts #2
Hammer Decline
320x15x2
Chest Press Hoist Roc-it
190x18x2
Tricep Cable Pushdowns
110x9
100x10 Dropset 70x8, 50x10
Tricep DB Kickback
35x15
35x12
Lateral Raise Machine
130x15x3
Ab Machine
160x15
165x15x2
9 min Stariclimber
25 min treadmill

17.5 Hour Fasting
8 Hour Eating Window

Meal 1) 1 can Progresso Green Split Pee Soup, 20 grams collagen, 4000mg Omega3, Vits, magnesium, probiotic, prebiotic, digestives, B6, B12
Meal 2) 1/2 cup Granola, 1/2 cup Keto Crunch, 1 cup 1% lactose free milk, Fairlife Prontein Drink, 1 banana, digestives, magnesium, aspirin, zinc, NAC, artichoke, dandelion
Meal 3) Thai Coconut Curry Chicken with broccoli, mushrooms, onion, and green beans; 1 cup Long Grain Rice/Wild Rice Mix, digestives, magnesium, Saw Palmetto
Meal 4) 6oz Can Sockeye Salmon, 1 cup Catalina Crunch, 1 cup Milk, 3 small bites of cake, digestives, magnesium, 3000mg Omega3, NAC, artichoke extract, Saw Palmetto, Dandelion
@RoidRage69 strong training day I want to see you fast a bit longer even on meal days
 
Seems like you are really enjoying these meals and also you're really enjoying the energy that you feel now, changing the way, you eat much respect.
I am working hard to get low glycemic carbs into my diet. Never thought I could replace that junk I was eating 2.5 months ago with real food. Will be making homemade vegetable beef soup this weekend.
 
9/14/23

Weight Upon Rising 275.4
Weight after workout 274.9

65min Treadmill at level 12 incline speed 2.6

24 Hour Fasting

Meal of the Day) Steak Sandwich made with Carbonaut bread, avacodo mayo, leftover beef, 1/2 cup pineapple , 20 grams collagen, 1 cup catalina crunch, fairlife protein drink, 8000mg Omega3, Vits, NAC, herbs for liver, probiotic, prebiotic, digestives, Aspirin, B6, B12, Zinc 1.5
That is a good hit on the treadmill
 
I'd be carried out lol
It’s hard for me to explain the level of anger I would have if forced to walk on a treadmill for two hours. Put me outside in the mountains, and I will walk all day, but inside I just seethe and plan the destruction of everything around me.
 
It’s hard for me to explain the level of anger I would have if forced to walk on a treadmill for two hours. Put me outside in the mountains, and I will walk all day, but inside I just seethe and plan the destruction of everything around me.
I just get in the mindset of concentrating on my breathing. At 15 degree incline its a little taxing on the body.
 
9/15/23

Weight Upon Rising 274.1
Weight after workout 273.1

Chest/Tris/Delts #2
Hammer Decline
320x15x2
Chest Press Hoist Roc-it
190x18x2
Tricep Cable Pushdowns
110x9
100x10 Dropset 70x8, 50x10
Tricep DB Kickback
35x15
35x12
Lateral Raise Machine
130x15x3
Ab Machine
160x15
165x15x2
9 min Stariclimber
25 min treadmill

17.5 Hour Fasting
8 Hour Eating Window

Meal 1) 1 can Progresso Green Split Pee Soup, 20 grams collagen, 4000mg Omega3, Vits, magnesium, probiotic, prebiotic, digestives, B6, B12
Meal 2) 1/2 cup Granola, 1/2 cup Keto Crunch, 1 cup 1% lactose free milk, Fairlife Prontein Drink, 1 banana, digestives, magnesium, aspirin, zinc, NAC, artichoke, dandelion
Meal 3) Thai Coconut Curry Chicken with broccoli, mushrooms, onion, and green beans; 1 cup Long Grain Rice/Wild Rice Mix, digestives, magnesium, Saw Palmetto
Meal 4) 6oz Can Sockeye Salmon, 1 cup Catalina Crunch, 1 cup Milk, 3 small bites of cake, digestives, magnesium, 3000mg Omega3, NAC, artichoke extract, Saw Palmetto, Dandelion
nice update here bro
 
Treadmill running is too damn boring and walking on a treadmill. I would probably shoot myself, too.
 
roid rage aren't you in alaska and its like daylight all day there, go walk the glaciers
 
nah he is in northwest america now. up in the mountains or somewhere high
 
Yes, and he is sticking to his diet and it's an amazing job on his part.
 
you doing great bro
 
It’s hard for me to explain the level of anger I would have if forced to walk on a treadmill for two hours. Put me outside in the mountains, and I will walk all day, but inside I just seethe and plan the destruction of everything around me.
So true
 
9/16/23

Weight Upon Rising 273.3
Weight after workout 272.9

Legs #2
Leg Extension Warmup
2 sets 40 reps total
Cybex Squat Press Narrow Stance Feet at the bottom of plate
630x15x2
630x20
Hoist SLDL Single Leg
90x12x2
Leg Extension Hoist Roc-it Single Leg
91x15
91x17
Seated Leg Curls Hoist Roc-it
152x20
167x16
Yes/No's
2 Sets
Standing Calf Raise
195x12x2

15 hour Fasting
9 hour Eating Window

15 min before meal 1) 1.3 IU HGH
Meal 1) 1/2 Cup Granola, 1/2 cup Catalina Crunch, 1 cup milk, 20 Grams Collagen, Digestives, Probiotic, Herbs for Liver, 3000mg Omega3, magnesium, Zinc, B6, B12, NAC, Vit D, Vit E
Meal 2) Plate of food at a birthday party( Salmon, Beef, Shrimp, pork, rice, pasta, cantalope)
Meal 3) 3 Lamb Chops, Cup Rice, Greek Salad, Mexican Coke, digestives, 3000mg Omega3, magnesium
Meal 4) 1 Cup Catalina Crunch, Fairlife Protein Drink, Atkins Caramel Chocolate Nut Roll Bar, handful smokehouse almonds, 5000mg Omega3, magnesium, NAC, Dandelion, Artichoke extract, Asprin

2 hr after last meal 1.3 IU HGH at bedtime

Will be doing HGH on lifting days 4 days per week 30-60 min after workout and at bedtime. Will also be lowering carbs down and raising protein levels. Looking at aprox 250-300 grams protein and maybe 125-200 grams carbs depending on bodyparts trained. Checked blood sugars a dozen times yesterday and this morning and I seem to be getting this down to a good level even with the higher carbs yesterday. Should be normal with carbs cut back by 30% and going lower glycemic. I think this is the sweet spot. Can also add light evening cardio if needed.
 
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9/16/23

Weight Upon Rising 273.3
Weight after workout 272.9

Legs #2
Leg Extension Warmup
2 sets 40 reps total
Cybex Squat Press Narrow Stance Feet at the bottom of plate
630x15x2
630x20
Hoist SLDL Single Leg
90x12x2
Leg Extension Hoist Roc-it Single Leg
91x15
91x17
Seated Leg Curls Hoist Roc-it
152x20
167x16
Yes/No's
2 Sets
Standing Calf Raise
195x12x2

15 hour Fasting
9 hour Eating Window

15 min before meal 1) 1.3 IU HGH
Meal 1) 1/2 Cup Granola, 1/2 cup Catalina Crunch, 1 cup milk, 20 Grams Collagen, Digestives, Probiotic, Herbs for Liver, 3000mg Omega3, magnesium, Zinc, B6, B12, NAC, Vit D, Vit E
Meal 2) Plate of food at a birthday party( Salmon, Beef, Shrimp, pork, rice, pasta, cantalope)
Meal 3) 3 Lamb Chops, Cup Rice, Greek Salad, Mexican Coke, digestives, 3000mg Omega3, magnesium
Meal 4) 1 Cup Catalina Crunch, Fairlife Protein Drink, Atkins Caramel Chocolate Nut Roll Bar, handful smokehouse almonds, 5000mg Omega3, magnesium, NAC, Dandelion, Artichoke extract, Asprin

2 hr after last meal 1.3 IU HGH at bedtime

Will be doing HGH on lifting days 4 days per week 30-60 min after workout and at bedtime. Will also be lowering carbs down and raising protein levels. Looking at aprox 250-300 grams protein and maybe 125-200 grams carbs depending on bodyparts trained. Checked blood sugars a dozen times yesterday and this morning and I seem to be getting this down to a good level even with the higher carbs yesterday. Should be normal with carbs cut back by 30% and going lower glycemic. I think this is the sweet spot. Can also add light evening cardio if needed.
Where do you normally place your feet on the squat press? I am always with my heels at the bottom edge, but out about shoulder width. Narrow and low really hits the quads painfully.
 
Where do you normally place your feet on the squat press? I am always with my heels at the bottom edge, but out about shoulder width. Narrow and low really hits the quads painfully.
Usually shoulder width apart and about 3-4 inches higher than I did today.

I figure the SLDL one leg are murdering my hamstrings and butt so much I can concentrate on quads.
 
That’s one of the reasons the squat press is so much better than a standard leg press. Every foot position is pretty comfortable, while on a lot of 45 degree presses only one works for each body type.
 
That’s one of the reasons the squat press is so much better than a standard leg press. Every foot position is pretty comfortable, while on a lot of 45 degree presses only one works for each body type.
I hate the regular leg press. My wife is too short and has a hard time unracking it. I have to help her and it messes up my shoulders.
 
I hate the regular leg press. My wife is too short and has a hard time unracking it. I have to help her and it messes up my shoulders.
@RoidRage69 I have the exact same issue, my wife is from Columbia like 5'1 barely. Had to help her with the leg press and hurt my back.

I started pushing her to do front and reverse hack squats, machine weights, it's much better for short girls. I have her in contest shape now, bikini.
 
@RoidRage69 I have the exact same issue, my wife is from Columbia like 5'1 barely. Had to help her with the leg press and hurt my back.

I started pushing her to do front and reverse hack squats, machine weights, it's much better for short girls. I have her in contest shape now, bikini.
My wife is 5’1” has 15 inch arms.
 
9/17/23

Weight Upon Rising 273.8
Weight after workout/first meal 274.6

Back #2 Focused on ultra strict slower reps feeling the contractions
Cable Rows 1 Arm
90x10x2
90x11
Reverse Grip Chest Supported Machine Low Rows
175x10x3
Lat Cable Pulldowns
160x10
145x10x2
Cable Pullover
100x13x2
DB Shrugs
90x15x2
DB Rear Delts
22.5x15x2
Machine Preacher Curls 1 Arm
60x12x3
6 Min StairClimber
30 Min Treadmill

15.5 Hours Fasting
7 Hour eating window

Meal 1) 4 Lamb Chops, 1/2 cup rice, 4oz pita bread, tzaki sauce, banana, 20 grams Collagen, 3000mg Omega3, digestives, liver herbs, NAC, B6, B12, Zinc, Vit E
Meal 2) 1 cup granola, 1/2 cup Catalina Crunch, Fairlife Protein Drink, digestives, 3000mg Omega3,
Meal 3) Big bowel Homemade Vegtable Beef Soup, 3000mg Omega3, Aspirin, Digestives, Vit E&D,
Meal 4) 1 cup Catalina Crunch, Fairlife Protein Drink, 3000mg Omega3, Digestives, NAC
 
I can't even do a regular leg press. Gives me headaches being in that position. I never found them that effective either. Mainly there for bros to load up plates and try to impress people, lol.
 
I can't even do a regular leg press. Gives me headaches being in that position. I never found them that effective either. Mainly there for bros to load up plates and try to impress people, lol.
Wasn't there a video recently, some chick doing them and having entire thing fall on her.
 
9/17/23

Weight Upon Rising 273.8
Weight after workout/first meal 274.6

Back #2 Focused on ultra strict slower reps feeling the contractions
Cable Rows 1 Arm
90x10x2
90x11
Reverse Grip Chest Supported Machine Low Rows
175x10x3
Lat Cable Pulldowns
160x10
145x10x2
Cable Pullover
100x13x2
DB Shrugs
90x15x2
DB Rear Delts
22.5x15x2
Machine Preacher Curls 1 Arm
60x12x3
6 Min StairClimber
30 Min Treadmill

15.5 Hours Fasting
7 Hour eating window

Meal 1) 4 Lamb Chops, 1/2 cup rice, 4oz pita bread, tzaki sauce, banana, 20 grams Collagen, 3000mg Omega3, digestives, liver herbs, NAC, B6, B12, Zinc, Vit E
Meal 2) 1 cup granola, 1/2 cup Catalina Crunch, Fairlife Protein Drink, digestives, 3000mg Omega3,
Meal 3) Big bowel Homemade Vegtable Beef Soup, 3000mg Omega3, Aspirin, Digestives, Vit E&D,
Meal 4) 1 cup Catalina Crunch, Fairlife Protein Drink, 3000mg Omega3, Digestives, NAC
@RoidRage69 good day and you kept it at 7hours

It’s a good weight to ensure you getting a stroke.
damn autocorrect. weight should be way.
@RoidRage69 lol now I see what you meant
 
9/18/23

Weight Upon Rising 273.1
Weight after workout 273.5

Chest/Tris #2 (shoulder hurting so went extra light)
Hammer Decline Press
270x10x3
Machine Dips
165x30
165x25x2
Rope Tricep Pushdowns
60x13
60x10x2
DB Tricep Kickbacks
40x15x2
Machine Lateral Raise
155x10
110x30
Ab Machine Roc-it
110x10x2
110x15
10 min stairmaster
25 min treadmill

15 hour fasting
8 hour eating window

Meal 1) Leftover Thai Chicken with veggies, one whole pita bread, tziki sauce, one small piece pineapple, 20 Grams Collagen, Fairlife Protein Drink, 5000mg Omega3, Herbs, Digestives
Meal 2) 1.5 Cups Cheerios, 1.5 cups milk, 1 Fairlife Protein Drink, pre-probiotics, digestives, 5000mg Omega3,
Meal 3) Big bowel of homemade Vegtable Beef Soup, two bites bean dip with shredded cheese, 3 chunks pineapple, 3000mg Omega3, digestives, asprin, magnesium
Meal 4) 6oz Can Sockeye Salmon, 1 cup Catalina Crunch, Fairlife protein drink, 3000mg Omega3, Digestives, liver herbs, mangesium
 
What are your goals for the next year while we're on that subject?
 
Time restricted eating is the best. He is definitely good..
 
I like to eat in more of a 4-Hour eating window.
 
Nothing wrong with seven hours, anything more than you got a problem.
 
@RoidRage69 I have the exact same issue, my wife is from Columbia like 5'1 barely. Had to help her with the leg press and hurt my back.

I started pushing her to do front and reverse hack squats, machine weights, it's much better for short girls. I have her in contest shape now, bikini.
I have the same issue but with barbell squats.
I can only do single leg press, and hack squats/pendulum

I absolutely love single leg press.

I wish I was able to do barbell squats.

Some People's mechanics simply or not designed for every machine or range of motion :(
 
You'll have to be consistent to achieve that goal...........
In order for me to achieve that goal the most important thing will be for me to continue to train everyday. Im getting the diet down. Its keeping my shoulder healthy that is the hard part. I cant even squat, bench, or deadlift now. I need to get my shoulder healed so I can start training those three lifts in order to gain the size I need.
 
Shoulder injuries are nothing but a headache I've had one which required surgery many years ago.
Ive had both shoulders operated on. My right shoulder is the one I got done in 2019 and its acting up again. Doc said I have torn cartilage and that it should heal itself over time. Well its not getting any better. He told me insurance wont cover it until it gets much worse. Same thing with my hernia. I basically have to blow them both out before insurance will cover. Its sucks. I guess I just keep pushing on and do what it takes to get to the end point and only do things that dont hurt it. It might be better for me to lower the volume down and increase the weights on my back workout again. I feel like massive inflammation running down my entire right arm. I am taking 10-12,000mg Omega3 everyday along with tumeric.
 
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Ive had both shoulders operated on. My right shoulder is the one I got done in 2019 and its acting up again. Doc said I have torn cartilage and that it should heal itself over time. Well its not getting any better. He told me insurance wont cover it until it gets much worse. Same thing with my hernia. I basically have to blow them both out before insurance will cover. Its sucks. I guess I just keep pushing on and do what it takes to get to the end point and only do things that dont hurt it. It might be better for me to lower the volume down and increase the weights on my back workout again. I feel like massive inflammation running down my entire right arm. I am taking 10-12,000mg Omega3 everyday along with tumeric.
Dang we aren't very far off I believe mine was in 2017 I had tore my Bicep tendon in 3 separate spots leasing into the shoulder joint, had my collar bone shaved down a screw put in and alot of stitches. It sucked but it also helped drive me because I have to focus on keeping my lifts balanced because my right shoulder and arm will slump down lower than my left side so it makes me concentrate harder on full range of motion, although I will say I'm right handed and now my left side is stronger than my right side which can be difficult at times, we make it work.
 
Dang we aren't very far off I believe mine was in 2017 I had tore my Bicep tendon in 3 separate spots leasing into the shoulder joint, had my collar bone shaved down a screw put in and alot of stitches. It sucked but it also helped drive me because I have to focus on keeping my lifts balanced because my right shoulder and arm will slump down lower than my left side so it makes me concentrate harder on full range of motion, although I will say I'm right handed and now my left side is stronger than my right side which can be difficult at times, we make it work.
Found this online. Going to make sure and do some of these as much as I can remember to do during the week.
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9/17/23

Weight Upon Rising 273.8
Weight after workout/first meal 274.6

Back #2 Focused on ultra strict slower reps feeling the contractions
Cable Rows 1 Arm
90x10x2
90x11
Reverse Grip Chest Supported Machine Low Rows
175x10x3
Lat Cable Pulldowns
160x10
145x10x2
Cable Pullover
100x13x2
DB Shrugs
90x15x2
DB Rear Delts
22.5x15x2
Machine Preacher Curls 1 Arm
60x12x3
6 Min StairClimber
30 Min Treadmill

15.5 Hours Fasting
7 Hour eating window

Meal 1) 4 Lamb Chops, 1/2 cup rice, 4oz pita bread, tzaki sauce, banana, 20 grams Collagen, 3000mg Omega3, digestives, liver herbs, NAC, B6, B12, Zinc, Vit E
Meal 2) 1 cup granola, 1/2 cup Catalina Crunch, Fairlife Protein Drink, digestives, 3000mg Omega3,
Meal 3) Big bowel Homemade Vegtable Beef Soup, 3000mg Omega3, Aspirin, Digestives, Vit E&D,
Meal 4) 1 cup Catalina Crunch, Fairlife Protein Drink, 3000mg Omega3, Digestives, NAC
you are doing great on this log bro keep it up
 
Ive had both shoulders operated on. My right shoulder is the one I got done in 2019 and its acting up again. Doc said I have torn cartilage and that it should heal itself over time. Well its not getting any better. He told me insurance wont cover it until it gets much worse. Same thing with my hernia. I basically have to blow them both out before insurance will cover. Its sucks. I guess I just keep pushing on and do what it takes to get to the end point and only do things that dont hurt it. It might be better for me to lower the volume down and increase the weights on my back workout again. I feel like massive inflammation running down my entire right arm. I am taking 10-12,000mg Omega3 everyday along with tumeric.
@RoidRage69 how much collagen are you taking now? and how much joint support? and you splitting dose?
 
9/19/23

Weight Upon Rising 274.9
Weight after workout 274

Morning Cardio
16min StairMaster
65min Treadmill 12 Incline, 2.6 Speed

Evening Cardio
65min Treadmill 12-15 Incline, 2.6 Speed

24 Hour Fasting

Meal of the Day) 16oz Flat Iron Steak, 8oz Asparagus with holindaise sauce, 1 Cup Catalina Crunch, Fairlife Protein Drink, 1 Cup Pineapple, 20 grams Collagen, 5000mg Omega3, 3000mg EPO, digestives, pre-probiotics, liver herbs, asprin, B vits
 
I’ve never seen any evidence that hgh leads to hypoglycemia. Only place I’ve seen it mentioned is here. In theory, it is most effective when there is no insulin, excess dietary glucose, protein or lipid in the bloodstream, so I’d assume that the more fasted you are with exogenous hgh the better.
 
I’ve never seen any evidence that hgh leads to hypoglycemia. Only place I’ve seen it mentioned is here. In theory, it is most effective when there is no insulin, excess dietary glucose, protein or lipid in the bloodstream, so I’d assume that the more fasted you are with exogenous hgh the better.
Ya ok. I am really considering right before going to the gym and at bedtime so will try it out. Also considering before morning cardio.
 
I’ve never seen any evidence that hgh leads to hypoglycemia. Only place I’ve seen it mentioned is here. In theory, it is most effective when there is no insulin, excess dietary glucose, protein or lipid in the bloodstream, so I’d assume that the more fasted you are with exogenous hgh the better.
I am thinking it can cause a insulin spike if you take too much hgh and have major liver problems. I would think at the small doses we are taking it should be fine.

All my liver tests have been fine over the last 9 months.
 
I’d say before fasted cardio and before bed are the best two times. I think that, in general, the theory behind fasted cardio is bullshit, but if you add hgh or clen (lol) or yohimbine or other compound that works well in the absence of insulin/glucose, it actually makes sense.
 
I’d say before fasted cardio and before bed are the best two times. I think that, in general, the theory behind fasted cardio is bullshit, but if you add hgh or clen (lol) or yohimbine or other compound that works well in the absence of insulin/glucose, it actually makes sense.
I can understand the reasoning behind the fasted cardio. I think for people who are in ketosis it makes no difference but with people who are eating lots of carbs it is. My belief is that one of the best times is right after lifting as you've burned through your glycogen stores. I think the ones who say to do cardio before you lift are 100% wrong.
 
I can understand the reasoning behind the fasted cardio. I think for people who are in ketosis it makes no difference but with people who are eating lots of carbs it is. My belief is that one of the best times is right after lifting as you've burned through your glycogen stores. I think the ones who say to do cardio before you lift are 100% wrong.
I eat a lot of carbs, and I try to cardio about a half hour after eating them to help out my insulin system. I think most of the studies on fasted cardio show two things. First, it burns more fat that fed cardio. Second, by the end of the day, the total fat burn in a day from doing fed vs fasted cardio has completely evened out, which makes sense because you end up doing the same amount of eating and energy burning either way. In long term ketosis it might be different. I’d have to try to wrap my head around that.

Totally agree about the dumbness of cardio before lifting. Lifting should be where you have your full glycogen stores, and all of your brain energy. Don’t know why you’d want to waste that elsewhere.
 
I took blood sugar level before 1.5 IU hgh and it was 92. An hour later 93 so basically zero impact on blood sugars.
Thanks for sharing!
 
I took blood sugar level before 1.5 IU hgh and it was 92. An hour later 93 so basically zero impact on blood sugars.
I think the relationship between hgh and glucose is more a relationship with insulin in that hgh and insulin cancel each other out w/r/t driving blood glucose down, so blood levels stay elevated, which starts to strain the pancreas. If you don’t add glucose to the mix through food, it shouldn’t be a problem. Also, hgh mobilizes fat for utilization/burning in the absence of insulin, but is more anabolic in its presence, so there is a trade off there.
 
Is there any danger in taking HGH before working out while in Ketosis? Just trying to get the timing down as perfect as I can and get the best use out of it. I'm currently taking it twice a day. Once after working out 15 minutes before eating and at bedtime 2 hours after last meal. Anyone else using this protocol?
@RoidRage69 if you do only use 1/2 IU to test it out and make sure you have a protein bar on hand, dont play with hypoglycemia
and hypoglycemia-induced release of cortisol is something you dont want with your body

I can understand the reasoning behind the fasted cardio. I think for people who are in ketosis it makes no difference but with people who are eating lots of carbs it is. My belief is that one of the best times is right after lifting as you've burned through your glycogen stores. I think the ones who say to do cardio before you lift are 100% wrong.
@RoidRage69 best times to lift is when you dont have glycogen if you're leaning out, if you're bulking you need max glycogen

I eat a lot of carbs, and I try to cardio about a half hour after eating them to help out my insulin system. I think most of the studies on fasted cardio show two things. First, it burns more fat that fed cardio. Second, by the end of the day, the total fat burn in a day from doing fed vs fasted cardio has completely evened out, which makes sense because you end up doing the same amount of eating and energy burning either way. In long term ketosis it might be different. I’d have to try to wrap my head around that.

Totally agree about the dumbness of cardio before lifting. Lifting should be where you have your full glycogen stores, and all of your brain energy. Don’t know why you’d want to waste that elsewhere.
@LittleTimeTrouble you eat a lot of carbs because you're lean already, it's different for @RoidRage69 he's crusing at 270lbs
 
@RoidRage69 if you do only use 1/2 IU to test it out and make sure you have a protein bar on hand, dont play with hypoglycemia
and hypoglycemia-induced release of cortisol is something you dont want with your body


@RoidRage69 best times to lift is when you dont have glycogen if you're leaning out, if you're bulking you need max glycogen


@LittleTimeTrouble you eat a lot of carbs because you're lean already, it's different for @RoidRage69 he's crusing at 270lbs
Totally agree. I just can’t figure out the mechanism by which hgh would make somebody go hypo. Everything about it points to higher blood sugar issues.
 
9/20/23

Weight Upon Rising 273.7
Weight after workout 272.7

Morning Cardio
62 min StairMaster

Evening Cardio
65 min treadmill incline 12 speed 2.2

24 Hour Fasting

Meal of the Day) 12 oz Ribeye, 2/3 lb shrimp, 1/2 cucumber, 1/2 bell pepper, 1Cup Catalina Crunch, Fairlife Protein Drink, 1/2 Cup Pineapple, 20 grams Collagen, 5000mg Omega3, 3000mg EPO, digestives, pre-probiotics, liver herbs, asprin, B vits
 
I was gonna say it would be dose dependent. 1.5ius looks good
Yes I think as long as I keep each injection at 1.5 IU it will be fine. I kept checking blood sugars every hour and it it went down to 79 at the 4 hour mark so its pretty normal as that was after 19 hours of fasting in ketosis. Will make sure I always have carbs on hand if ever needed. I always go somewhere with carbs and protein. Today will be my first time taking gh before lifting. Will go 1 hour before hitting the gym with 1.5 IU. Will then eat 4 meals of carbs and protein over a 6 hour window ending at 6 P.M. and then doing evening cardio shortly after. Will then take a 1.5 IU shot of GH at 10 P.M. bedtime. I think this is going to be a good schedule.
 
9/21/23

Weight Upon Rising 274.3
Weight after workout 275.0

Legs #1
Cybex Squat Press Narrow Stance Feet bottom of foot plate
720x10
810x10
810x12
Straight leg deadlifts quads against Smith machine bar
DB's 35x17x4 These are frigging torture to your glute/ham tie-ins
Leg Extension
206x15
206x12x2
Seated Hamstring Curls
214x10
214x8
115x25
Ab Machine
170x13x2

Legs are toast. Didnt realize I did 2 plates more per side this week than last week on narrow stance squat press. Thought I was only up 1 plate.
This was also the first time I took HGH before lifting. Took hgh and cialis. Is it just me or does HGH intensify the pump? I swear to god my legs are 3 inches bigger now.

15 hours fasting

6 hour feeding window

Meal 1) 2.5 cups Cheerios, Fairlife Protein Drink, 1/2 banana, 20 Grams Collagen, 3000mg Omega3, Various daily pills wont be disclosing anymore as I take them everyday.
Meal 2) 2 big bowls homemade vegtable beef soup, 3/4 cup pineapple, 3000mg Omega3
Meal 3) 5/8ths order of sushi, 6 large shrimp, 1/2 cup pineapple, 3000mg Omega3
Meal 4) 1.5 cups Catalina Crunch, Fairlife Protein Drink, 5000mg Omega3
 
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